The Security Of The Believer

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achduke7

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Jesus commands to repent daily.

You might think that means nothing but when God tells you to repent daily, it doesn't matter what the Students say.

The only thing that matters is what the Master claims.

If you reject the Masters Command to repent daily, just really how secure can you be?
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He did say this to people at the time who were not yet baptized and sealed with the Holy Spirit.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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achduke7 said:
He did say this to people at the time who were not yet baptized and sealed with the Holy Spirit.
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He said to pray in Secret.

normally, to seek forgiveness of that time, they must go to the Temple and sacrifice an animal.
Jesus removed the Temple from this equation.
this is clearly like most of Jesus Teachings, is for His New Gospel, He was introducing.
 
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this is also why i go by the Words of Jesus first, before, His Students.

not saying they're wrong, but whenever it is controversial, find what Jesus said, that ALWAYS overrules the rest.

look at the HUMAN Doctrines made from Paul, Peter, John, etc...

as if they were the Top Authority.
 
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if you were familiar with the yiddish communities, you would constantly hear this:

they claim to Follow Yeshua, but preach peter, paul, and john...
 
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hard for me to Witness to the Jews, my own people, because the majority of Christians don't hardly ever Preach the Words of Yeshua, unless to use them to back peter-paul-and john.
but i do, i Preach the Words of Yeshua, to them.
 
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in their own Language and they CRINGE at this:

Mark 12:
26. "But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the scripture of Moses how God said to him from the Bush, 'I AM THE LIVING GOD, The God of Abraham, and the God of Isaaq and the God of Jaqob?'"

Mark 14:
60. The High Priest stood up in the center and asked Yeshua, and he said, "Do you not answer? Why are these testifying against you?"
61. But he was silent, and he did not answer him anything. And again, The High Priest asked him and said, "Are you The Messiah, The Son of The Blessed One?"
62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."

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They [no longer] have EXCUSE, because, this is what i preach to them.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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Jesus said: I AM THE LIVING GOD!!

so, how can His Words be secondary and merely used only to back up to His Students?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Jesus commands to repent daily.

You might think that means nothing but when God tells you to repent daily, it doesn't matter what the Students say.

The only thing that matters is what the Master claims.

If you reject the Masters Command to repent daily, just really how secure can you be?
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No, I do not mock Jesus by repenting one day, then the next day or next week saying I changed my mind again.

I do confess every day. As God says to do. But not to be forgiven and re-saved. But to acknowledge my sin. and not try to Hide it. Because if I try to hide it, it will find me out..

I also confess to my fellow disciples.. Do you?
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
No, I do not mock Jesus by repenting one day, then the next day or next week saying I changed my mind again.

I do confess every day. As God says to do. But not to be forgiven and re-saved. But to acknowledge my sin. and not try to Hide it. Because if I try to hide it, it will find me out..

I also confess to my fellow disciples.. Do you?
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i know you Confess your sins, or you could not say anything else otherwise.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
This coming from someone who believes in security to the point one can sin and not repent and still be Saved is a rather auspicious move on your part.
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Nope

I do not believe on can sin and not repent.

When we come to Christ. we already repented..

You issue is you do not understand what sin is.

let go of the law you want to place yourself under and find Christ
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Nope

I do not believe on can sin and not repent.

When we come to Christ. we already repented..

You issue is you do not understand what sin is.

let go of the law you want to place yourself under and find Christ
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see, we have many of the same beliefs, we just differ on the Importance of the LIVING GOD's Words compared to that of His Students.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Because the law says you can fall away and be cut off.

Grace says we are secure in Christ. because our righteousness are as filthy rags
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Jesus said that, He fulfilled the LAW, so the LAW is completed.
He's talking about the New Covenant.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
see, we have many of the same beliefs, we just differ on the Importance of the LIVING GOD's Words compared to that of His Students.
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No

You believe your salvation is based on how well you do

My salvation is based on what Christ did

I obey BECAUSE I am saved

You obey In order to STAY saved.

Huge difference
 
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