You obviously haven't even watched the video. The first link you posted just lists some events that anyone can claim happened with no proof, while the video I posted shows astronomically impossible odds of certain words occurring a certain number of times, while combined with other statistically impossible occurrences that only God could have created. The other 2 links just talk about random letter code sequencing, which also, has NOTHING to do with anything being discussed in this video.
Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?
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Absolutely NOTHING to do with what we are talking about here. You, like many people on here just blindly hate and spam replies without even watching the video posted. Equidistant letter sequences have been DEBUNKED a long time ago and they have nothing to do with what we are talking about.
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I don’t see how that changes anything. It is merely saying that from that generation to eternity.
Besides, God’s Word says His words will be preserved forever in Psalms 12:6-7 is also expressed in Isaiah 40:8, (1 Peter 1:23-25. Also compare John 17:17 with Psalms 100:5 and Psalms 117:2. In fact, scrolls of Scripture were written on either vellum (flesh/animal skins) or papyri (i.e., grass). The scribes knew they had to keep making copies to preserve God’s words because the scrolls of the Scriptures would get old and decay and perish. So the flesh of the animal skins and the grass used to write Scripture would eventually pass away. Peter says, “For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever…” (1 Peter 1:24-25). So even though old copies would die out, new ones would replace them, preserving the words of the Lord forever. In fact, Jesus says, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” (Matthew 24:35).
While it is true that God’s Word is forever settled in Heaven, the Modern Textual Critic erroneously believes God’s Word is only perfect in Heaven.
But Deuteronomy 30:11-14 says, “For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.”
See, the problem with Modern Textual Criticism is that the individual reader or the scholar has the power and the authority in certain places in the Bible. The Word of God is taken out of men’s hands without firing a shot, and the devil wins.
Remember, it is the devil who seeks to corrupt, destroy and doubt God’s Word.
If one simply believes Psalms 12:6-7, it will change them just like is the case with other verses one accepts or believes at face value.
Besides, God’s Word says His words will be preserved forever in Psalms 12:6-7 is also expressed in Isaiah 40:8, (1 Peter 1:23-25. Also compare John 17:17 with Psalms 100:5 and Psalms 117:2. In fact, scrolls of Scripture were written on either vellum (flesh/animal skins) or papyri (i.e., grass). The scribes knew they had to keep making copies to preserve God’s words because the scrolls of the Scriptures would get old and decay and perish. So the flesh of the animal skins and the grass used to write Scripture would eventually pass away. Peter says, “For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever…” (1 Peter 1:24-25). So even though old copies would die out, new ones would replace them, preserving the words of the Lord forever. In fact, Jesus says, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” (Matthew 24:35).
While it is true that God’s Word is forever settled in Heaven, the Modern Textual Critic erroneously believes God’s Word is only perfect in Heaven.
But Deuteronomy 30:11-14 says, “For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.”
See, the problem with Modern Textual Criticism is that the individual reader or the scholar has the power and the authority in certain places in the Bible. The Word of God is taken out of men’s hands without firing a shot, and the devil wins.
Remember, it is the devil who seeks to corrupt, destroy and doubt God’s Word.
If one simply believes Psalms 12:6-7, it will change them just like is the case with other verses one accepts or believes at face value.
I think what he's talking about (if he bothered to clarify) is "generation" of people mentioned in verse 5. God will protect his people, not his word. I haven't found any evidence that God would protect the Bible from corruption (other than the video at the start of this topic). God's word remains safe in heaven, while mistakes, lies, and corruptions are filling the earth. Deuteronomy 30:11-14 is when God's word was given to the people by God himself, but that was long ago and those manuscripts have been copied and corrupted countless times.
Modern Textual Critics like James White try to explain away Psalms 12:6-7 by pointing to their corrupt so called earlier manuscripts that alters verse 7 in that it refers exclusively to the people being preserved for eternity and not the Lord’s pure words. While the context of this chapter is saying that God’s people will be preserved forever, the immediate context is verse 6 in regards to the Lord’s pure words. So God’s pure words and the people will be preserved for all eternity. God’s people can only be preserved if they have God’s words. If there are no words of God, they cannot have faith in God. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17). But it is highly suspicious that the recent Modern Translation Movement is favoring minority texts which adhere to an interpretation that undermines the established Bible for hundreds of years. In addition, other verses are changed in regards to uplifting God’s Word, as well. Psalms 138:2 says in the KJV “I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.” This truth is changed in Modern Translations. The Word is not magnified above His name in Modern Bibles. This again is highly suspicious that their disregard for the Word can be seen in the very manuscripts they favor. Here is another one that is altered. 2 Corinthians 2:17 says, “For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” But in Modern bibles it hides the fact that God’s words were being corrupted during even Paul’s time. It says “peddle” instead of corrupt. There are more like this. This is a pattern we see. It makes sense because the text type of the so-called better manuscripts favored by Modern Textual Criticism is Alexandrian. Meaning, the manuscripts (Vaticanus and Sinaiticus for the NT Greek) they favor originate from Alexandria, Egypt.
Dark Origins of the Alexandria, Egypt manuscripts (for the NT Critical Text or the OT LXX):
It’s odd that the Modern bibles are based upon the Alexandrian manuscripts, and yet those very scholars who created them also sing the same song (so to speak) as the Alexandrian cult does in the fact that they say the same thing in that there is no final, absolute, written authority of God.
Dark Origins of the Alexandria, Egypt manuscripts (for the NT Critical Text or the OT LXX):
- The concluding statement of the Creed of the Alexandrian Cult is that: THERE IS NO FINAL, ABSOLUTE, WRITTEN AUTHORITY OF GOD ANYWHERE ON THIS EARTH.
- The removal of 1 John 5:7 and the birthplace of Arianism (Anti-Trinitarianism). The three appearances of “Godhead” (which means Trinity) is changed to say something else. So direct references of the Trinity are attacked and removed.
- Egypt is predominantly mentioned as being negative in the Bible.
It’s odd that the Modern bibles are based upon the Alexandrian manuscripts, and yet those very scholars who created them also sing the same song (so to speak) as the Alexandrian cult does in the fact that they say the same thing in that there is no final, absolute, written authority of God.
The immediate context of verse 7 is God’s words, which is verse 6. Modern bibles alter verse 7 to refer to the people, and not “them” as a reference back to verse 6 (God’s pure words). See my post #1148.
Also, the Modern Translation rendering on Psalms 12:7 does not make any sense by referring exclusively to the people alone and not also God’s words. Modern Bibles are making verse 6 like some kind of mysterious floater verse that does not connect in with the rest of the chapter. What do the pure words of the Lord have to do with the rest of chapter.? Only if the proper KJV rendering of Psalms 12:7 on how God’s words being preserved can the people also be preserved for eternity (or for ever), too. The KJV rendering is superior.
This is classic KJV-only argumentation... and it's completely bogus.
Here's the simple truth: the kind of textual criticism employed by Erasmus and the KJV translators is the same kind of textual criticism employed by the scholars behind the modern critical Greek texts. Calling one legitimate and the other heretical is closed-minded folly.
Here's the simple truth: the kind of textual criticism employed by Erasmus and the KJV translators is the same kind of textual criticism employed by the scholars behind the modern critical Greek texts. Calling one legitimate and the other heretical is closed-minded folly.
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I found many videos refuting KJV translation in various ways, one being, not following the Hebrew grammar - the word "them" in Hebrew is masculine, but the word for "words" is feminine, so it cannot be talking about the word God being preserved. I don't know anything about Hebrew, so I can't comment any further.
As for Deuteronomy 30:11-14:
Nowhere is this principle or truth said to be exclusive only to that time period. Meaning, we do not see anywhere God rescinding this truth. Why would He? It wouldn’t make any sense. All over Scripture we can see the promise of God preserving His Words through the centuries. If this was not the case, then people could not trust His words because they were full of errors and or problems.
Nowhere is this principle or truth said to be exclusive only to that time period. Meaning, we do not see anywhere God rescinding this truth. Why would He? It wouldn’t make any sense. All over Scripture we can see the promise of God preserving His Words through the centuries. If this was not the case, then people could not trust His words because they were full of errors and or problems.
No it does not, and you being stubborn about it isn't helping your case.
All irrelevant to your misinterpretation of Psalm 12.
Quote any modern textual critic who has said or written that.
Silly hypocrisy. You think that the KJV translators were doing something fundamentally different than what modern scholars do... with no evidence to support your bias.
Only if they stubbornly refuse to read and believe those three critical words: "from this generation".
All irrelevant to your misinterpretation of Psalm 12.
Quote any modern textual critic who has said or written that.
Silly hypocrisy. You think that the KJV translators were doing something fundamentally different than what modern scholars do... with no evidence to support your bias.
Only if they stubbornly refuse to read and believe those three critical words: "from this generation".
Lets understand something here. First, the translators of the KJV knew the original languages far better than the average person today. Many of the translators could speak, write, and read Hebrew and Greek fluently. 47 of the top scholars worked on the KJV and they had the best manuscripts.
Second, this person in this video most likely does not even speak, read, and write Hebrew fluently as their native tongue. Even if they did, the Hebrew language died out for a while and came back. So folks would only be guessing as to what Hebrew is saying. The only thing to have is trusting in God’s Word in the language God chose for today, which I believe is English (The world language). To put it to you another way, I do not entertain original language interpretations because they really do not know these languages. They may have went to some college but if they cannot live in that culture and speak to the locals and write a book that they would be impressed with, they are simply not qualified and they are merely toying with a dead language.
Three, when a person explains away the English meaning in the Bible, what they are really saying is that the translators of the KJV were wrong or stupid and they know better. But I don’t imagine they even bothered to check their credentials. Compared to their own credentials it is a joke for sure. They are one person who is toying with a language and trying to be on the same level of the top scholars who actually knew the languages very well.
Second, this person in this video most likely does not even speak, read, and write Hebrew fluently as their native tongue. Even if they did, the Hebrew language died out for a while and came back. So folks would only be guessing as to what Hebrew is saying. The only thing to have is trusting in God’s Word in the language God chose for today, which I believe is English (The world language). To put it to you another way, I do not entertain original language interpretations because they really do not know these languages. They may have went to some college but if they cannot live in that culture and speak to the locals and write a book that they would be impressed with, they are simply not qualified and they are merely toying with a dead language.
Three, when a person explains away the English meaning in the Bible, what they are really saying is that the translators of the KJV were wrong or stupid and they know better. But I don’t imagine they even bothered to check their credentials. Compared to their own credentials it is a joke for sure. They are one person who is toying with a language and trying to be on the same level of the top scholars who actually knew the languages very well.
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Deuteronomy 30:11-14 is talking about present moment in the past, when people had just received God's word. It says the people now have the God given law and must now follow it. Nowhere did the Bible say that God's word would be perfectly preserved on earth as it is in heaven until, that is off coarse, God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven.