10 Questions about OSAS
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Usually a Christian would not live in sin.. because they want to give back to Jesus. But we all have our vices. No one is perfect. We all don't reach the mark of perfection. So we would go to heaven despite our flaws.
Those who are continuously faithful though get greater rewards in heaven than someone who gets saved and then doesnt pursue Jesus. Although doing that would be a wretched existence because the Holy Spirit will quicken them to be faithful.
So many of the verses you have been showing about judgment...what is being judged?
For eg ... A whole group of believers losing their candlestick..like the Loadecian church.. that is not each individual of that group losing salvation. That's a local church characterised by lukewarmness being judged by losing the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Not individuals losing eternal life.
The same can be said for many judgment verses... What is being cut off? Who is actually being addressed?
Another example is the Pharisees being told blasphemy won't be forgiven.
That is to the Pharisees..
Not believers.
And then Galatians .. did you receive the Spirit by the hearing of faith or works of the law?
That is about churches receiving the Spirit...not individuals.
But the fact remains... All Christians sin alot. All we cab do is sin less. Never until heaven be sinless.
Just because he'll isn't a consequence for believers..
Does not mean they won't be disciplined and rebuked by God.
That is the way a good family works. The parents always see their children as theirs and the children seer their parents as theirs...but the parents will discipline and rebuke.
Over and out.
Those who are continuously faithful though get greater rewards in heaven than someone who gets saved and then doesnt pursue Jesus. Although doing that would be a wretched existence because the Holy Spirit will quicken them to be faithful.
So many of the verses you have been showing about judgment...what is being judged?
For eg ... A whole group of believers losing their candlestick..like the Loadecian church.. that is not each individual of that group losing salvation. That's a local church characterised by lukewarmness being judged by losing the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Not individuals losing eternal life.
The same can be said for many judgment verses... What is being cut off? Who is actually being addressed?
Another example is the Pharisees being told blasphemy won't be forgiven.
That is to the Pharisees..
Not believers.
And then Galatians .. did you receive the Spirit by the hearing of faith or works of the law?
That is about churches receiving the Spirit...not individuals.
But the fact remains... All Christians sin alot. All we cab do is sin less. Never until heaven be sinless.
Just because he'll isn't a consequence for believers..
Does not mean they won't be disciplined and rebuked by God.
That is the way a good family works. The parents always see their children as theirs and the children seer their parents as theirs...but the parents will discipline and rebuke.
Over and out.
you've admitted that you sin, you think everybody else will lose their salvation because of sin but not you, you say you repent well we all do. We repent knowing that we are covered by our Lord's once and forever sacrifice and move on.
You are on a merry-go-round of sin. You jump on and whizz around then you fall off, go through a time of self pity and recrimination then jump back on ... till the next time.
You are on a merry-go-round of sin. You jump on and whizz around then you fall off, go through a time of self pity and recrimination then jump back on ... till the next time.
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No, I don't live in any sinful lifestyles. Try again!
Hopefully you'll understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ someday that we are called to NOT live in sin!
Too bad you cannot do all things thru Christ (Philippians 4:13) and arguse in favor os living in sin.
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
*This is referring to the Law of Christ that believers live under today which is the Lord's moral law that's always been in effect that followers of antinomianism try to explain away (see Galatians 6:2, 1 Corinthians 9:21, James 2:12, James 1:25)
Romans 8:5
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Romans 8:6,7
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans 13:14
But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Then there is...
Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9,10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Romans 1:28-32
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 6:1,2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 1:6
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth
Galatians 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption
All these verses indicate condemnation and corruption for anyone walking after the flesh which is living in sin.
All these verses indicate condemnation and corruption for anyone walking after the flesh which is living in sin.
Pointing out the false doctrines of the OSAS peoples... it living a lifestyle of Truth!
Your false doctrines... is false witness as it's not the testimony of God's Word... which is why the false teachers MUST only talk about a select few passages and play like the rest of God's Word is not even there.
Enjoy thy deception homie!
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something i have wondered:
when Jesus drank the "Cup" and became SIN, the Father separated Himself from Him
the Same Blood was inside Jesus at that moment that was later shed for our SINS.
Jesus is God, and the Father still removed Himself from Him.
it's interesting, if people did comfortably sin and think they're Covered by the Blood, how they believe that the same Rule [as with Jesus and the Father/Separation] would not apply to themselves.
when Jesus drank the "Cup" and became SIN, the Father separated Himself from Him
the Same Blood was inside Jesus at that moment that was later shed for our SINS.
Jesus is God, and the Father still removed Himself from Him.
it's interesting, if people did comfortably sin and think they're Covered by the Blood, how they believe that the same Rule [as with Jesus and the Father/Separation] would not apply to themselves.
Oh it's lifestyle is it, what was this sin then, did you lose your temper? get angry? that is the sin of murder, how many times do you get angry? Did you look at a girl and want her? that's adultery, how many times do you commit adultery. You seem to have a fixation with homosexuality so mebbe it's that ... get my drift?
What you fail to grasp is that your body of flesh will be sinful to the day you die. But by faith in Christ our flesh body has been nailed to the cross and buried. It's gone agone, it can never be resurrected.
If after we are saved we continue in sin we may well incur death, physical death, this is what Hebrews warns against ... don't do it.
Walk rather in the Spirit and fulfil not the desires of the flesh.
What you fail to grasp is that your body of flesh will be sinful to the day you die. But by faith in Christ our flesh body has been nailed to the cross and buried. It's gone agone, it can never be resurrected.
If after we are saved we continue in sin we may well incur death, physical death, this is what Hebrews warns against ... don't do it.
Walk rather in the Spirit and fulfil not the desires of the flesh.
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Actually, He became an offering for sin... a sin offering.
He did not literally become a sinner as some falsely teach.
That's gnostic hersy and is not biblical. Try again.
A moment ago... you just got finished saying the body "will be sinful to the day you die"... which is it???
You are a confused person because you obviously don't believe the entire Word of God and instead accept the teachings of john calvin and martin luther as being more true than God's Word.
When did I ever claim... to the the Christ?
That's what the followers of john calvin and martin luther frequently say to those that refuse to join their cult!
No it is not.
1. Firstly, the eternal security of the believer is a SOLID BIBLE DOCTRINE. Not "false doctrine".
2. Secondly, you are deliberately and persistently twisting what this doctrine teaches.
3. Thirdly, the eternal security of the believer is clearly and biblically NOT a license to sin.
4. Fourthly, it does not matter what false teachers may teach. You are to go by what is in Scripture.
5. Fifthly, You are deliberately undermining the faith of some, who perhaps may not be sure about their salvation.
6. Lastly, all your posts are simply trolling Christians, and it may be time to have you banned from CC.
1. Firstly, the eternal security of the believer is a SOLID BIBLE DOCTRINE. Not "false doctrine".
2. Secondly, you are deliberately and persistently twisting what this doctrine teaches.
3. Thirdly, the eternal security of the believer is clearly and biblically NOT a license to sin.
4. Fourthly, it does not matter what false teachers may teach. You are to go by what is in Scripture.
5. Fifthly, You are deliberately undermining the faith of some, who perhaps may not be sure about their salvation.
6. Lastly, all your posts are simply trolling Christians, and it may be time to have you banned from CC.
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No, I'm trying to get people to see the rest of what God says in His Word!
The OSAS peoples are the ones twisting God's Word... and this was foretold in God's Word to happen in the last days.
Those that are unsure about their salvation should go study God's Word for themselves and walk in the Truth found there rather than following martin luther and john calvin who are false teachers who twist God's Word.
The bottom line here is... you falsely accuse those that don't idolize martin luther and john calvin of wrong doing
No... just pointing out false doctrine and encourage people to study God's Word for themselves... ALL of God's Word, not just bit and paces as that leads to false doctrine.