Do you worry about Election interference

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What is your level of concern regarding Election integrity

  • 3. I am worried about election fraud in 2024

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ZNP

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that was said by many. ( never was going to happen, of course, but it was said)!
I thought the rule was we were never supposed to say never.
 

ZNP

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ZNP

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Good morning.

I don't worry about this at all.
Can a Marketing/Salesman person sell to me Why should I worry?

Thank you.
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ZNP

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I don't feel either emotion actually. Whatever happens, happens and it has zero effect on my personal life either way.
Well some people want to be able to afford groceries, and don't want to send their kids to fight in WW3 and don't want to have to pay for an illegal immigrant to stay at a 5 star hotel, and don't want to see Quarantine camps in NY or any other state.
 

ZNP

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I've worked as an Election Officer for 6 years and the ballots are kept very secure. No one has proved anything to the contrary no matter who one's for or against.
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Eli1

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This is an hour and five minutes.
No!
 

Eli1

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Well some people want to be able to afford groceries, and don't want to send their kids to fight in WW3 and don't want to have to pay for an illegal immigrant to stay at a 5 star hotel, and don't want to see Quarantine camps in NY or any other state.
You need a better marketing team to sell this to an audience who doesn't find any of those things alarming and sees them as someone who's either trolling or has some anxiety issues with doom-and-gloom syndrome.
 

ZNP

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You need a better marketing team to sell this to an audience who doesn't find any of those things alarming and sees them as someone who's either trolling or has some anxiety issues with doom-and-gloom syndrome.
You don't need to win 100% of the votes to win the election.

Already these things matter to over 50% of Americans.

They don't need your vote and they don't need the electoral college votes of Ma to win.


BLM supporter will "stump for Trump", just go back 3 years to see how BLM responded to Trump's 2020 campaign, that is a huge difference.

This is the cofounder of Rhode Island's BLM

Disapproval of Biden in key swing states by blacks is at 40%, 57% of hispanics disapprove. That is a massive swing from 2020.

He calls out the duplicity and hypocrisy of the Democratic party saying it is obvious they are not for us.
 

Eli1

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You don't need to win 100% of the votes to win the election.

Already these things matter to over 50% of Americans.

They don't need your vote and they don't need the electoral college votes of Ma to win.


BLM supporter will "stump for Trump", just go back 3 years to see how BLM responded to Trump's 2020 campaign, that is a huge difference.

This is the cofounder of Rhode Island's BLM

Disapproval of Biden in key swing states by blacks is at 40%, 57% of hispanics disapprove. That is a massive swing from 2020.
I respect that these things matter to some people. I just wish they had more appreciation for the things they have.
Whatever clown is in charge, has zero effect on our daily lives from the time we wake up to the time we go to sleep.
The system runs itself. The whole western civilization runs itself. I see that everything is running fine from Maine to Florida and i also realize that from Maine to Florida there are people who preoccupy their lives with anxiety while I'm at the beach having ice cream.
 

ZNP

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I respect that these things matter to some people. I just wish they had more appreciation for the things they have.
Whatever clown is in charge, has zero effect on our daily lives from the time we wake up to the time we go to sleep.
The system runs itself. The whole western civilization runs itself. I see that everything is running fine from Maine to Florida and i also realize that from Maine to Florida there are people who preoccupy their lives with anxiety while I'm at the beach having ice cream.
Then why do you get involved with threads talking about political parties and government policies?
 

Eli1

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Then why do you get involved with threads talking about political parties and government policies?
Because they're fun.
I enjoy it, i don't participate in it.
 

ZNP

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Because they're fun.
I enjoy it, i don't participate in it.
Oh, so we should appreciate the clowns we have.

1. I am thankful for Joe Biden, I feel he has turned many people to the Lord. Nothing like having a guy who is senile with his finger on the red button and talking about preemptively nuking Russia to wake people up that they need to prepare to meet their God.

2. I am thankful for the inflation and rising interest rates, too many people were completely distracted by the world, this helps some (admittedly the poorest ones) to become free of all those distractions.

3. I am thankful for Biden's DOJ and the many, many indictments of Trump. The more they indict Trump the less we hear about how the conservatives are a bunch of paranoid conspiracy theorists.

4. I am thankful for all the various elections that have been stolen by election fraud. If they only stole the Presidential race people would find it much harder to believe that it is going on, but when they see all these various races being stolen it makes it more real to the majority of Americans.

5. I am thankful for all these wingnuts on the internet lifting up Hamas like they deserve to win the Nobel peace prize for returning some of their hostages. I find it reassuring that my sense the world calls evil good and good evil is not hyperbole.

6. I am thankful for the quarantine camps in NY. Three years ago when I left NY and told relatives this was coming they confidently assured me that would be impossible. They then worried about my mental health. I feel it is only fair that since they have been so concerned about my mental health that I also should be forced to worry about their mental health (they are in a panic now like a deer in the headlights).

7. I am thankful for the recent videos released of Trump supporters on January 6th protecting the police from Antifa at the capital. I feel like I have enough good material now to make a parody of the January 6th committee on "what not to do in an insurrection".

You are right, this is fun.
 

Cameron143

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I respect that these things matter to some people. I just wish they had more appreciation for the things they have.
Whatever clown is in charge, has zero effect on our daily lives from the time we wake up to the time we go to sleep.
The system runs itself. The whole western civilization runs itself. I see that everything is running fine from Maine to Florida and i also realize that from Maine to Florida there are people who preoccupy their lives with anxiety while I'm at the beach having ice cream.
It makes a huge difference who is in charge. The price of gas alone affects the price of everything we buy. The intestinal fortitude of a leader determines the wars that take place. The policies that are implemented can lead to greater or lesser human suffering and death.
The choice of leadership affects everyone everywhere everyday.
 

Eli1

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It makes a huge difference who is in charge. The price of gas alone affects the price of everything we buy. The intestinal fortitude of a leader determines the wars that take place. The policies that are implemented can lead to greater or lesser human suffering and death.
The choice of leadership affects everyone everywhere everyday.

This isn't accurate at all because for 25 years of my life, there has been zero effect in my daily life regardless of who was in charge.
The price of gas changing is called inflation and it happens in many countries.
And when it comes to suffering and death, that's when one decides if it's worth staying or leaving somewhere else where the greater conscience hasn't lost its common sense.
There is no suffering in USA besides health-related reasons which happen worldwide. We are on vacation here.
But you can also be part of a doom-and-gloom brigade because everything is so good and you don't appreciate it so you need something different from boredom because you haven't seen real suffering.

Oh, so we should appreciate the clowns we have.

1. I am thankful for Joe Biden, I feel he has turned many people to the Lord. Nothing like having a guy who is senile with his finger on the red button and talking about preemptively nuking Russia to wake people up that they need to prepare to meet their God.

2. I am thankful for the inflation and rising interest rates, too many people were completely distracted by the world, this helps some (admittedly the poorest ones) to become free of all those distractions.

3. I am thankful for Biden's DOJ and the many, many indictments of Trump. The more they indict Trump the less we hear about how the conservatives are a bunch of paranoid conspiracy theorists.

4. I am thankful for all the various elections that have been stolen by election fraud. If they only stole the Presidential race people would find it much harder to believe that it is going on, but when they see all these various races being stolen it makes it more real to the majority of Americans.

5. I am thankful for all these wingnuts on the internet lifting up Hamas like they deserve to win the Nobel peace prize for returning some of their hostages. I find it reassuring that my sense the world calls evil good and good evil is not hyperbole.

6. I am thankful for the quarantine camps in NY. Three years ago when I left NY and told relatives this was coming they confidently assured me that would be impossible. They then worried about my mental health. I feel it is only fair that since they have been so concerned about my mental health that I also should be forced to worry about their mental health (they are in a panic now like a deer in the headlights).

7. I am thankful for the recent videos released of Trump supporters on January 6th protecting the police from Antifa at the capital. I feel like I have enough good material now to make a parody of the January 6th committee on "what not to do in an insurrection".

You are right, this is fun.
Indeed this is very fun. SNL-like comedy.
You know what's tragic? Those kids in Africa who you feed. Those kid's daily lives is a form of suffering despite who's running their country. So luckily they have you to support them and make a change in their daily lives.
When you compare ourselves to them, we are on vacation here.
Our daily rhythm is fantastic, even if a movie actor like Regan is staying at Pennsylvania Avenue or a nursing home patient like Biden.
 

Cameron143

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This isn't accurate at all because for 25 years of my life, there has been zero effect in my daily life regardless of who was in charge.
The price of gas changing is called inflation and it happens in many countries.
And when it comes to suffering and death, that's when one decides if it's worth staying or leaving somewhere else where the greater conscience hasn't lost its common sense.
There is no suffering in USA besides health-related reasons which happen worldwide. We are on vacation here.
But you can also be part of a doom-and-gloom brigade because everything is so good and you don't appreciate it so you need something different from boredom because you haven't seen real suffering.



Indeed this is very fun. SNL-like comedy.
You know what's tragic? Those kids in Africa who you feed. Those kid's daily lives is a form of suffering despite who's running their country. So luckily they have you to support them and make a change in their daily lives.
When you compare ourselves to them, we are on vacation here.
Our daily rhythm is fantastic, even if a movie actor like Regan is staying at Pennsylvania Avenue or a nursing home patient like Biden.
I never said things aren't better here than elsewhere. But everything I stated is demonstrably true. I'll show you.

Under the last administration or this one have prices been higher?
Under which administration has more human trafficking taken place?
Under which administration have their been wars?
Under which administration have future taxes skyrocketed?

You have been affected whether you admit it or not. And so has every other person. You may not understand, either, how fragile our self determination and freedom is currently. But you better enjoy your ice cream now and your time at the beach, because if elections aren't made trustworthy, you'll need the memories to recount for successive generations.
 

TabinRivCA

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I'm not into bashing someone just because they're a different political party and I gotta go with the Bible where it says many times to pray for our leaders. God knows everything and so there are reasons we don't know about, that's when we trust the Word. There are and were some hideous leaders that need to be prayed out and the Body of Christ can do that if we ever come together and stick to the Word.

Titus 3:1-15
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, ...
 

Eli1

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I never said things aren't better here than elsewhere. But everything I stated is demonstrably true. I'll show you.

Under the last administration or this one have prices been higher?
Under which administration has more human trafficking taken place?
Under which administration have their been wars?
Under which administration have future taxes skyrocketed?

You have been affected whether you admit it or not. And so has every other person. You may not understand, either, how fragile our self determination and freedom is currently. But you better enjoy your ice cream now and your time at the beach, because if elections aren't made trustworthy, you'll need the memories to recount for successive generations.
But this isn't any way to show any breakthrough in our way of life, it just shows team-sports mentality.
The previous president was better than this one.
What about the one before him? And before him? How were things under Lincoln?

You have to realize that in the world you have to make the best you can with what you have, not with what you wish you had.
Perfection is only attained in the New Kingdom as you know, so while we are here we need to be grateful for what we have.

When it comes down to details, all populations in the western civilization are not doing anything drastic like civil wars or violent regime changes and that's because their daily lives are pretty good.
So this is more entertainment than actual value. Because if people would be serious about regime change then they would get up and fight or leave. But people don't want to do that because again it's not doom-and-gloom.

Changes happen very slow and are inevitable because the people can't take it anymore and a new way of life is established.
In Europe you had very slow changes in large periods of time.

The renaissance.
Colonialism and imperialism
The reformation
The enlightenment
The French revolution
The industrial revolution
The Russian revolution
WW1 and 2.
Now - mostly vacation mode with the majority of western society living comfortable lives. So the complaints are not big enough for people to cause a major change.

Maybe the next big change is this due to our current levels of stupidity :D:

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Cameron143

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But this isn't any way to show any breakthrough in our way of life, it just shows team-sports mentality.
The previous president was better than this one.
What about the one before him? And before him? How were things under Lincoln?

You have to realize that in the world you have to make the best you can with what you have, not with what you wish you had.
Perfection is only attained in the New Kingdom as you know, so while we are here we need to be grateful for what we have.

When it comes down to details, all populations in the western civilization are not doing anything drastic like civil wars or violent regime changes and that's because their daily lives are pretty good.
So this is more entertainment than actual value. Because if people would be serious about regime change then they would get up and fight or leave. But people don't want to do that because again it's not doom-and-gloom.

Changes happen very slow and are inevitable because the people can't take it anymore and a new way of life is established.
In Europe you had very slow changes in large periods of time.

The renaissance.
Colonialism and imperialism
The reformation
The enlightenment
The French revolution
The industrial revolution
The Russian revolution
WW1 and 2.
Now - mostly vacation mode with the majority of western society living comfortable lives. So the complaints are not big enough for people to cause a major change.

Maybe the next big change is this due to our current levels of stupidity :D:

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I get it. You don't believe we're at a tipping point. This seems a little strange since you recounted so much history. This isn't about a choice between a couple of sports teams and arguments back and forth between fanatical fans. It's about whether future generations live free. But people generally wait too late and then wonder how it happened.
 

Eli1

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I get it. You don't believe we're at a tipping point. This seems a little strange since you recounted so much history. This isn't about a choice between a couple of sports teams and arguments back and forth between fanatical fans. It's about whether future generations live free. But people generally wait too late and then wonder how it happened.
This is a difference in mindset and how you see things. Glas half full or half empty.
We are incapable in changing the tides of history that's why i mentioned so much history. Our only peace comes from God because we cannot control human behavior despite our attempts. This is why history repeats itself usually and we learn nothing from it.
So, ride the wave instead of trying to control the wave and thank God for the water.
 

Cameron143

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This is a difference in mindset and how you see things. Glas half full or half empty.
We are incapable in changing the tides of history that's why i mentioned so much history. Our only peace comes from God because we cannot control human behavior despite our attempts. This is why history repeats itself usually and we learn nothing from it.
So, ride the wave instead of trying to control the wave and thank God for the water.
I do believe history is under divine control and following a divine plan and timetable. Personally, I can worship whether olives are on the branches and horses are in the stalls or not. But there is alot more human suffering with the latter. I was under the impression that human suffering was a concern to you.
And the reason history repeats itself is because men in want cry out to God. God, who is merciful, condescends to men and draws near and brings great blessing. But men who have provision forget the kindness and goodness of God. Eventually, a generation will arise that knows not the Lord. They don't walk in His ways and lose His presence and blessing. In time, things will get bad enough for men to cry out to the Lord again.
We seem to be in a time when things are becoming progressively worse. Good time for prayer and revival.