What if God had written IN STONE?

[PennEd]

Now I remember you, Penn. I've seen you on many other sites.

You're mr and mrs twisty twister.

Ok.

You have your fun, I have better things to do.

Hey! Braweh.

You have broken the Commandment etched in stone, from the Lord’s Finger of bearing false witness against your neighbor!

You have not repented or sought forgiveness.

You have lied when you said you remember me from a different site.

According to you, we MUST consider you lost, and to be fully judged, and name blotted out of the Book of Life.

 

[Cameron143]

Thanks for the post, post, but since I've asked you so many times now without the slightest response, I will simply defer to these questions from now on.

Did Jesus teach the 10 Commandments?

Did Jesus keep the 10 Commandments?

Did Jesus' followers keep them after the Cross?

I'd appreciate an answer to each of them if you expect anymore answers from me.

In some forums, it is actually against posted rules to ignore a question.

I've asked you these many times now.

1. Yes. He taught under the old covenant.
2. Yes. Perfectly. As well as every other law.
3. Yes, but only as they walked in the Spirit.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

maybe, secretly, he is this guy:

Donald Trump talked about his Christian faith Saturday, but said he's never sought forgiveness for his sins.
And made the claim he is God's "Chosen One."

never sought forgiveness + chosen one = his god must be Satan??

 

[Dino246]

maybe, secretly, he is this guy:

Donald Trump talked about his Christian faith Saturday, but said he's never sought forgiveness for his sins.
And made the claim he is God's "Chosen One."

never sought forgiveness + chosen one = his god must be Satan??

Because this thread isn’t already enough of a train wreck, let’s torch it for good measure.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

no way am i voting for Satan.

at this Time in History.
on the verge of fulfilling Ezekiel 38/39 followed by Peace Treaty = 7 year Tribulation.
i'd be careful who i would align myself with this CLOSE to the END.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Because this thread isn’t already enough of a train wreck, let’s torch it for good measure.

well, it does fit the pattern.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

just to add 1 more detail:

whoever is President, we know, will hand us over to the AC.
Trump, seems like the CHOSEN ONE, to do just that very thing.

 

[Dino246]

It is a good thing because every one of you are ignoring questions that decimate your positions.

Fallacy: hasty generalization.

And it's "post". No capital P.[/QUOTE]
When referring to another human being by an abbreviation of his handle, it functions as a name, so it is a capital P.

 

[Braweh]

Paul preached on the Sabbath because that’s when people gathered and expected to hear someone speak about Scripture.

Correct.

And there's no Scripture that says people gathered on Sunday, on any regular basis, for that reason.

 

[Braweh]

Fallacy: hasty generalization.

And it's "post". No capital P.
When referring to another human being by an abbreviation of his handle, it functions as a name, so it is a capital P.

Tell that to post.

 

[Braweh]

this is Christ tacitly admitting His disciples break the sabbath but insisting that there is One Greater present - - the very LORD OF THE SABBATH.

His argument against the accusation of the Pharisee is that He is greater than sabbath, not that they are wrong, that He teaches sabbath observance.

why would His servants fast when their King is with them? they would fast when He is absent.
What therfore is the teaching?

find yourself in the Bible, lol

Wow.

That's a whole lotta nonsense when we know for certain that Christ never broke a single Commandment or He couldn't have been the perfect sinless Lamb of God.

That's the foundation of the Gospel message.

If Jesus, or any of His disciples, broke the Sabbath, He wouldn't have been sinless and would not have been practicing what He preached if He'd allowed them to sin.

That simply doesn't add up to the weight of Scripture.

Sorry.

 

[posthuman]

Did Jesus teach the 10 Commandments?

Did Jesus keep the 10 Commandments?

Did Jesus' followers keep them after the Cross?

I'd appreciate an answer to each of them if you expect anymore answers from me.

as i indicated in my previous replies, there is no record in the gospels or the epistles of Christ or the apostles teaching the church to keep sabbath days, and there is record that they did not teach Gentile believers to do so.
additionally the historical record is shows it was not a practice of the church.

so, if one of the 10 was not taught as a law for the church, then "the 10" was not taught.

born as a Jewish man under Moses, Jesus kept all of the requirements of the Law, and His followers also being Jews under the Law did also.
His gentile followers, not being under the Law, evidently did not.

 

[Theopolitan]

Would that convince the doubting faithless of the permanence of His declaration of expectations for mankind? Ever so sadly not.

Modern perspectives would lead many to believe that the 10 Commandments were written in stone due to some primitive caveman evolutionary gobbledy-gook. "Well it's because that's all they had back then!", they surmise.

The fact is that everything God has ever done has had deep symbolic meaning beneath the obvious surface purposes.

The 10 Commandments written in stone could not have been a more obvious declaration from God Almighty that they were intended to stand forever and never, ever be changed. Just as God is unchanging, so are His Laws and the 10 Commandments are also a moral structure of just who God is. It's no coincidence that Jesus Christ is referred to as the rock; the solid, unchanging, immovable foundation of Truth and all things holy and just.

The 10 Commandments were given to all mankind and Christ reiterated their importance by teaching them all, obeying them all and made certain that His followers understood to continue to keep them after His Crucifixion - which is exactly what they did. It would only make sense that He would do so as He was the Creator of them.

Why then do we have so many naysayers today who make such ridiculous claims as 'You will be damned to hell if you obey the Commandments!' and 'Obedience to the Commandments is "works salvation"!'? The Bible told us very clearly that we would have grievous wolves come into the churches and lead many astray. We have been told that the blind leaders of the blind lead many into the ditch. We have also been told by Jesus Himself that the road to salvation is a narrow one and many, many would be led down the wide road to destruction.

The 10 Commandments are now, and always will be, applicable to all professed Christians and they are quite literally the very foundation of the Christian Faith.

I haven't read all 36 pages, so forgive me if I am repeating something already stated.

The Ten Commandments are indeed the expression of perfection. And they teach us of our desperate need of a Savior.

Our Savior is the embodiment of the Law. They were written in stone, and He is the "Rock that followed them." His body also was broken, as were the original tablets.

Looking to the law for YOUR righteousness, will send you straight to hell.

Galatians 3:10 KJV - For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.​

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Look unto Jesus, and to Him crucified.

 

[Niki7]

End = purpose/objective.

To what end are we to obey the Law?

Jesus is the end of the Law for righteousness to those who believe.

Jesus is the purpose or objective in our obedience to the Law.

We are to emulate Him and His righteousness - that is the purpose/objective in obeying the Law; and His blood covers us, purifying and sanctifying us before God Almighty - IF only IF we believe and put our faith in Christ Jesus. His blood and Spirit are our advocate before the Father. Therefore, our lack of perfection in keeping the Commandments matters not as long as we are sincerely attempting to follow in His footsteps.

That's the Good News!

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an obvious copy/paste

I guess you did not notice it states the fact we cannot keep the commandments...even so, what matters is the blood of Christ shed on our behalf and not our attempts to behave ourselves

when you copy/paste, you should give credit to the source. that is a common practice and you should follow it

 

[Niki7]

He taught them specifically and generally as well. He said to obey the hypocritical teachers of the Law, but not to do as they did - as they did not obey the very Commandments they taught.
Matt. 23:1-3

what has that to do with the new covenant?

 

[Braweh]

as i indicated in my previous replies, there is no record in the gospels or the epistles of Christ or the apostles teaching the church to keep sabbath days, and there is record that they did not teach Gentile believers to do so.
additionally the historical record is shows it was not a practice of the church.

so, if one of the 10 was not taught as a law for the church, then "the 10" was not taught.

born as a Jewish man under Moses, Jesus kept all of the requirements of the Law, and His followers also being Jews under the Law did also.
His gentile followers, not being under the Law, evidently did not.

Jesus taught the 10 Commandments specifically and generally throughout the NT.

He said obey the Commandments many times and He confirmed which Commandments in Jn. 15:10.

He also said that we should obey the hypocritical teachers of the Law, but not do as they do - as they did not obey anything.
Matt. 23:1-3

He also said in Matt. 5:19 that those who obey and teach the 10 Commandments (just as He did) were greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

He also said in Matt. 5:20 that a Christian's righteousness should exceed that of the hypocritical teachers of the Law who taught but did not obey the 10 Commandments which further teaches obedience to the Commandments. By this, He was declaring that those who don't even teach them have no chance at all of entering the Kingdom.

And, for the record, Jesus' followers and disciples were the first Christians, not Jews.

Jesus did not obey the Jewish Laws, He made fun of them repeatedly, and humiliated all those who pushed those Traditions of the Jewish Elders in public.

 

[Dino246]

Correct.

And there's no Scripture that says people gathered on Sunday, on any regular basis, for that reason.

Um, yes, there is.

Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people...

 

[Braweh]

Looking to the law for YOUR righteousness, will send you straight to hell.

Be careful, post has made a declaration that nobody EVER makes this claim.

Take a good look @posthuman.

Here's your unicorn.

Theo, nobody in this thread has claimed that we obey the 10 Commandments as a means to salvation.

And you can rest assured God will send NOBODY to hell for obeying Him. Quite the opposite.

You're a grown adult and you have no excuse for not reading the entire Bible and learning exactly what God intended to teach. If you have come away from all that believing that God will send people to hell for obeying the 10 Commandments, you have a lot more to worry about than being right or wrong on a discussion forum.

I'd highly recommend you forget all that you may have spent a lot of money being taught and begin reading the Bible fresh from the very beginning because you have been woefully led astray.

 

[Braweh]

Um, yes, there is.

Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people...

Like I said, that was not any regular occurrance AND they didn't gather on Sunday, they gathered on Saturday night and Paul preached until the next morning.

Nice try.

 

[Braweh]

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an obvious copy/paste

I guess you did not notice it states the fact we cannot keep the commandments...even so, what matters is the blood of Christ shed on our behalf and not our attempts to behave ourselves

when you copy/paste, you should give credit to the source. that is a common practice and you should follow it

Thank you for the compliment.

That was all my own words.