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Absolutely! Just as stone age man has existed at the same time as societies which used metal, for example the Aztechs in 16th C Mexico did not use metal. The evolutionist will try to artificially add thousands of years to human history 'Stone Age Man' on a progression of ape-man to modern day man. God Bless 
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Absolutely! Just as stone age man has existed at the same time as societies which used metal, for example the Aztechs in 16th C Mexico did not use metal. The evolutionist will try to artificially add thousands of years to human history 'Stone Age Man' on a progression of ape-man to modern day man. God Bless
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There are several that I used to watch that fit that scenario, most of them working quietly and so it would lull me to sleep. One man in particular I kept up with from the foundation of his cabin recently posted a clip of him speaking, after two year I think, and I finally learned his actual nationality, Japanese. All of these bring to my mind the promise of plowshares.
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But the only time at the beginning of Genesis God says it is NOT good is that "man is alone" and so then it goes into the creation of eve.
The reason it's mentioned beforehand is because it says "God created man AND woman in the image of God" bc you would have idiots saying see... right here God only cares for man and only men are in his image.
The others mentioned by Cain were actually the nephilum. These were the offspring of the fallen angels and daughters of man who were essentially raped. These were the wicked ones that God keeps going after in the old testament saying literally "annihilate them" including the children. Most of these were around during Noah's day and had "evil on their minds all the time. " so it made sense that Cain was so afraid of them. Even though God hated Cain he kept him safe from them and allowed him to procreate bc essentially good comes from evil on our planet. But a lot of genetic disorders probably came from it as well. Oh and there were giants in those days too (Goliath)...the Egyptian pyramids not to mention all over the world, Stonehenge. That's why no one today understands how they were built. But the truth is stranger than fiction and the Bible tells it.
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Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Eve is the mother of all living humans so they had to be the first 2 people and there was no one else on Earth when they were created.
The Bible does not tell us every human being that was ever born from Adam and Eve, and does not tell us of every human being that was ever born from their children.
It is obvious that some of the children, and the children they had if they had any branched out in to the world going to other places, and did not stay in the immediate area.
You know how children are today, see you later mom and dad but I am out of here, and rightfully so for you cannot be with mom and dad forever which the Bible says the children shall leave their mother and father, and cling on to their spouse.
God said replenish the Earth not stay in one area and become a great amount of people.
That is what happened at the tower of Babel that they congregated in one area, and then they began to get arrogant that it was all about people when they said let us make a name for ourself, and God confounded their language and they spread around on Earth.
The offspring of Adam and Eve went out in to the world to inhabit another place besides being with their parents.
Adam and Eve probably told them to spread out for that is what God wanted for them to do replenish the Earth.
Just because Adam and Eve rebelled against God by eating from the forbidden tree does not mean that they stopped following God which Eve said I have gotten a man from the LORD indicating they were still acknowledging God in their life.
We follow God but we might sin but we are still following God.
Some of the children left and went to a place and settled there in which Cain later showed up at, and he probably went there because some of the children were already there.
But it was probably a coincidence for there was not technology so how would Cain actually know where they went when they took off.
Unless he went in the direction they went and happened to end up where they were at.
There was people that left the area and settled in another area that were all from Eve for she is the mother of all living and Cain went to that place and met his wife who would be an offspring of Eve like he was whether his direct sister, or a child of one of his siblings.
Eve is the mother of all living humans so they had to be the first 2 people and there was no one else on Earth when they were created.
The Bible does not tell us every human being that was ever born from Adam and Eve, and does not tell us of every human being that was ever born from their children.
It is obvious that some of the children, and the children they had if they had any branched out in to the world going to other places, and did not stay in the immediate area.
You know how children are today, see you later mom and dad but I am out of here, and rightfully so for you cannot be with mom and dad forever which the Bible says the children shall leave their mother and father, and cling on to their spouse.
God said replenish the Earth not stay in one area and become a great amount of people.
That is what happened at the tower of Babel that they congregated in one area, and then they began to get arrogant that it was all about people when they said let us make a name for ourself, and God confounded their language and they spread around on Earth.
The offspring of Adam and Eve went out in to the world to inhabit another place besides being with their parents.
Adam and Eve probably told them to spread out for that is what God wanted for them to do replenish the Earth.
Just because Adam and Eve rebelled against God by eating from the forbidden tree does not mean that they stopped following God which Eve said I have gotten a man from the LORD indicating they were still acknowledging God in their life.
We follow God but we might sin but we are still following God.
Some of the children left and went to a place and settled there in which Cain later showed up at, and he probably went there because some of the children were already there.
But it was probably a coincidence for there was not technology so how would Cain actually know where they went when they took off.
Unless he went in the direction they went and happened to end up where they were at.
There was people that left the area and settled in another area that were all from Eve for she is the mother of all living and Cain went to that place and met his wife who would be an offspring of Eve like he was whether his direct sister, or a child of one of his siblings.
Correction - it should read: "According to my creative fiction about what the Bible Says, the answer is no".
In order to be consistent with the Biblical Context, the FIRST HUMAN in the Creation detailed in Genesis was ADAM. Subsequently Adam was "re-processed", his "RIB" was used to bring Eve into existence. "Rib" (according to Jewish interpretation) means that certain of the "Essence" of Adam was removed, and formed into a Female human, so that the "Post Eve" Adam had been diminished by that which had been removed to become Eve.
SO in THIS CREATION, Adam, and then Eve were the first and ONLY humans in existence. But they had plenty of time to procreate (Adam was 930 when he died, and his offspring had similar lifespans), and produce a sizable population.
I've only been married for 58 years, and we've produced (in 3 additional generations) about twenty additional people. Some couples are much more prolific than We've been.
The "Gap theory" (an unknown expanse of time between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2) allows for previous creations to have taken place on earth, and the "Without form and void" condition of the earth in Gen 1:2 being the result of God's JUDGEMENT on the previous Creation(s).
In order to be consistent with the Biblical Context, the FIRST HUMAN in the Creation detailed in Genesis was ADAM. Subsequently Adam was "re-processed", his "RIB" was used to bring Eve into existence. "Rib" (according to Jewish interpretation) means that certain of the "Essence" of Adam was removed, and formed into a Female human, so that the "Post Eve" Adam had been diminished by that which had been removed to become Eve.
SO in THIS CREATION, Adam, and then Eve were the first and ONLY humans in existence. But they had plenty of time to procreate (Adam was 930 when he died, and his offspring had similar lifespans), and produce a sizable population.
I've only been married for 58 years, and we've produced (in 3 additional generations) about twenty additional people. Some couples are much more prolific than We've been.
The "Gap theory" (an unknown expanse of time between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2) allows for previous creations to have taken place on earth, and the "Without form and void" condition of the earth in Gen 1:2 being the result of God's JUDGEMENT on the previous Creation(s).
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Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
I might not have this right but it seems like there could of been people Cain would of met along the way for a mark was set upon him to identify him not to slay him, and saying lest any finding him sounds like they were not from where he was at before he left.
But he probably did not of settle where those people were because he built a city after the name of his son in the land of Nod.
And probably had a wife when he left and settled in the land of Nod.
I do not know for sure.
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
I might not have this right but it seems like there could of been people Cain would of met along the way for a mark was set upon him to identify him not to slay him, and saying lest any finding him sounds like they were not from where he was at before he left.
But he probably did not of settle where those people were because he built a city after the name of his son in the land of Nod.
And probably had a wife when he left and settled in the land of Nod.
I do not know for sure.
From everything we can see the Scriptures identify Adam and Eve as the very first two people to have ever been created on earth
A couple things I think about when asking the question
Were Adam and Eve the first two people created in the beginning of time?
How would we answer this question in respect to the fact that some Christians do believe that Jesus Christ the son of God is CO Eternal, meaning he has always existed in but as to if Jesus was created, when was he created ?
1. did Jesus existence in bodily form define " eternally " meaning - Co Eternal / trinity ?
2. or was Jesus created at some point in time before creation ?
3. or was he created at the point when he was conceived by the holy spirit in the woman, Mary ?
answers 1. and 2. would indicate Jesus was the very first human to exist even before Adam and Eve
answers 3. would indicate Jesus was not very first human and that Adam and Eve were the first.
I ask because, I myself, personally do not honestly understand nor comprehend the Trinity doctrine from a biblical perspective and if there is anyone who could provide an answer from the scriptures about this, I sure would greatly appreciate this.
Also, there are so many unanswered questions in the Scriptures but sometimes we have to use common sense, for example where did Cain get his wife, who did he marry and where did she come from? The only answer that would be very obvious is that Cain would have to have married of the daughters of Adam and Eve
If we notice in the Scriptures
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:
Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth:
For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed
Gen 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he " Adam ' begat sons and daughters:
the scriptures here, show how that Adam begat daughters in two places, once when after Adam had begat Cain and Abel and again in Gen 5:4 - after Seth was born
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:
Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth:
For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed
Gen 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he " Adam ' begat sons and daughters:
the scriptures here, show how that Adam begat daughters in two places, once when after Adam had begat Cain and Abel and again in Gen 5:4 - after Seth was born
the chronological order that is mentioned does not give information as to how Cain married of the daughters of Adam but that is the only way Cain would have found a woman, by Adam having produced daughters just after Can and Able were born. Eve would have to have bore at least three daughters, possibly more - but at least 3
One for Cain and then again in Gen 5:4 - when " Adam ' begat more sons and daughters:
the Hebrew word for daughter / plural is - בת - daughter
the Hebrew word for daughters / singular is - ובנות׃ = described as - " and also plural daughters "
Also - - we know that a woman does not have seed - she does not produce seed
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
the Man - Child whom is born to the Woman and the woman whom also has \ more seed - plural seed / more children - = the remnant of her seed.
The woman of Revelation 12, - ✦ - is described as having a plural number of children - the woman herself has seed.
but we know that the fact is that a woman does not have seed - she does not produce seed
Heb 11:11 Through faith also - SARA HERSELF RECEIVED STRENGTH TO CONCEIVE SEED
Mar 12::21 And the second man took her, and died, neither left he any seed:
:22 All seven BROTHERS / MALES had the same wife - and they left her no seed: -
the seed of David - Joh 7:42 - Joh 8:33 & 37 - 2Ti 2:8 - Rom 1:3 - 2Ti 2:8
the seed Abraham - Act 3:25 - Rom 4:13 - Heb 11:18 - Heb 2:16 - Rom 9:7 - Rom 11:1 - Gal 3:16 - Gal 3:29 - Rom 4:16 & 18
A man's seed - Act 13:23
a woman herself, she does not produce seed - - a woman does not leave seed or bring forth seed of her own self.
Seed can belong to a woman - only when she conceives the seed, delivered from the male - and the woman than RECEIVES - RETRIEVES - GATHERS SEED FROM THE INCOMMING MALE - inserted into the woman..
a woman, accepts - assumes - catches - gathers receives / conceives and grasps the seed produced from the male. The women only then has seeds of her own that are given to her through procreation - produced from the males -
the seed / sperm will then fertilizes her egg. - in conception
BUT MARY WAS A VIRGIN AND DID NOT RECEIVE SEED - and Jesus is never called the seed of Mary - but he is always called the seed David. Furthermore Jesus is not called the " seed " of God in the sense that God himself has seed in the way that humans have seed.
the Seed of God is defined as " the word of God "
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Luk 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Jesus is the word of God - which is the " seed " of God - conceived as Jesus , The Anointing - the word - seed of God -
The Seed of God is Jesus ------- he is the ANOINTING of the Spirit, Holy -- BEING THE LITERAL ANOINTING OF GOD - the installation, placement, application, positioning, stationing, appointment, applying of the Spirit, Holy Of The God in our lives.
To apply. to be the application
His Spirit is the Holy Spirit ------ in the manifestation, form of what is being applied, ANOINTED - placed, applied, positioned, stationed, appointed, working, rubbing, moving anointing - the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, to handle); to furnish what is needed; , to apply and to use.
The Seed Of God is what the Spirit is doing as Christ - in Anointing - and applying, in a spiritual manifestation.
Also - it was Eve whom was described as having seed - because she had sexual intercourse with Adam - Adam impregnated his SEED into the womb of Eve - -
Jesus is never described or mentioned or defined as being the seed of Mary - it is the children of Eve who are the seed of the woman and I believe that she seed of the woman in Rev 12:17, : is the human seed of Israel.
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In response to this, John 1:1-3 states:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
That means that Jesus (the Word) is co-eternal, and He is the Creator, not a created being.
In response to this, John 1:1-3 states:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
That means that Jesus (the Word) is co-eternal, and He is the Creator, not a created being.
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Hey there, Dino246
I thank you for taking time to reply to my post about the trinity and the idea of Jesus existing as, Co – Eternal
in perspective to Adam and Eve being the very first humans created.
My question I was asking was mostly subject on the “ PRE EXISTENCE ” of Jesus as human, the physical existence of Jesus, as the Son Of God - in bodily form - as a human being / a man, before Adam
This would certainly mean Jesus is described as CO - Equal, CO - Eternal, CO - Omnipresent - human body, - man, - Son of man, or Son of God
The Trinity Doctrine has been a very highly discussed topic beginning from the Roman Catholic Church and even by Protestant Reformers who have spent much time debating, discussing and explaining.
when we look at the original manuscripts Greek - we find exactly what the manuscripts are saying - in Hebrews 10 : 12
Please notice the ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT MESSAGE - Heb 10:12 - ORIGINAL GREEK MANUSCRIPTS
But then see - the Protestant Trinitarian translation omits and changes this to say that
JESUS OFFERED ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS FOR EVER ,,,, - SAT DOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD
In - Hebrews 10:12 - it is very interesting about the Trinity Doctrine in that how the Catholic Douay Rheims and the Latin Vulgate contradict and disagree with the contrasting Protestant K.J.V.
1. Firstly - Let's look at - Heb 10:12 - first, from the - Catholic Douay Rheims and the Latin Vulgate
Heb 10:12 :12 But this man, offering one sacrifice for sins,,,,,,, , for ever sitteth on the right hand of God,
2. and now - the Protestant K.J.V.
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,,,,,,, , sat down on the right hand of God;
what we see here - in the enormous contradiction and massive difference between these two translations is that the Catholic Translation states that Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins, - then a comma “ , , , " Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins,, , - ( FOLLOWED BY A COMMA PUNCTUATION MARKING )
then the Catholics say - ,,, sat down on the right hand of God; the Catholic translations go on to say that Jesus truly - - " for ever sitteth on the right hand of God, " - -
so the Catholics explain the Trinity to say, ok - for sure – Yes - we believe that Jesus - - for ever sitteth on the right hand of God, however the contradiction and difference is that the Protestant K.J.V. places a comma after the word " forever ",,,, - to say that Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,,,,, then the comma " , " ,
followed by - ,, sat down on the right hand of God.
The K.J.V removes the message that says that Jesus for ever sitteth on the right hand of God because eventually Protestants realized that their translation expressly says that Jesus is NOT forever sitting on the right hand of God.
Nor was Jesus previously sitting on the right hand of God
I thank you for taking time to reply to my post about the trinity and the idea of Jesus existing as, Co – Eternal
in perspective to Adam and Eve being the very first humans created.
My question I was asking was mostly subject on the “ PRE EXISTENCE ” of Jesus as human, the physical existence of Jesus, as the Son Of God - in bodily form - as a human being / a man, before Adam
This would certainly mean Jesus is described as CO - Equal, CO - Eternal, CO - Omnipresent - human body, - man, - Son of man, or Son of God
The Trinity Doctrine has been a very highly discussed topic beginning from the Roman Catholic Church and even by Protestant Reformers who have spent much time debating, discussing and explaining.
when we look at the original manuscripts Greek - we find exactly what the manuscripts are saying - in Hebrews 10 : 12
Please notice the ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT MESSAGE - Heb 10:12 - ORIGINAL GREEK MANUSCRIPTS
HIM NOW THE ONE FOR SIN,, OFFERED UP A SACRIFICE INTO THAT FOREVER SETTING DOWN
“ εν IN “ THE RIGHT OF GOD
Translated word for word exactly -- here
:12
αυτος Him - δε now - μιαν the one - υπερ for - αμαρτιων sin - προσενεγκας offered up -
θυσιαν a sacrifice - εις into - το that - διηνεκες forever - εκαθισεν set down - εν IN -
δεξια the right - του of - θεου God
The manuscripts are saying - exactly = :12 –
HIM NOW THE ONE FOR SIN,, OFFERED UP A SACRIFICE INTO THAT FOREVER SETTING DOWN “ εν IN “ THE RIGHT OF GOD
Meaning that Jesus is - { FOREVERMORE TO DWELL “ εν IN “ - IN THE RIGHT OF GOD ) - according to the manuscript original message -
“ εν IN “ THE RIGHT OF GOD
Translated word for word exactly -- here
:12
αυτος Him - δε now - μιαν the one - υπερ for - αμαρτιων sin - προσενεγκας offered up -
θυσιαν a sacrifice - εις into - το that - διηνεκες forever - εκαθισεν set down - εν IN -
δεξια the right - του of - θεου God
The manuscripts are saying - exactly = :12 –
HIM NOW THE ONE FOR SIN,, OFFERED UP A SACRIFICE INTO THAT FOREVER SETTING DOWN “ εν IN “ THE RIGHT OF GOD
Meaning that Jesus is - { FOREVERMORE TO DWELL “ εν IN “ - IN THE RIGHT OF GOD ) - according to the manuscript original message -
But then see - the Protestant Trinitarian translation omits and changes this to say that
JESUS OFFERED ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS FOR EVER ,,,, - SAT DOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD
In - Hebrews 10:12 - it is very interesting about the Trinity Doctrine in that how the Catholic Douay Rheims and the Latin Vulgate contradict and disagree with the contrasting Protestant K.J.V.
1. Firstly - Let's look at - Heb 10:12 - first, from the - Catholic Douay Rheims and the Latin Vulgate
Heb 10:12 :12 But this man, offering one sacrifice for sins,,,,,,, , for ever sitteth on the right hand of God,
2. and now - the Protestant K.J.V.
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,,,,,,, , sat down on the right hand of God;
what we see here - in the enormous contradiction and massive difference between these two translations is that the Catholic Translation states that Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins, - then a comma “ , , , " Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins,, , - ( FOLLOWED BY A COMMA PUNCTUATION MARKING )
then the Catholics say - ,,, sat down on the right hand of God; the Catholic translations go on to say that Jesus truly - - " for ever sitteth on the right hand of God, " - -
so the Catholics explain the Trinity to say, ok - for sure – Yes - we believe that Jesus - - for ever sitteth on the right hand of God, however the contradiction and difference is that the Protestant K.J.V. places a comma after the word " forever ",,,, - to say that Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,,,,, then the comma " , " ,
followed by - ,, sat down on the right hand of God.
The K.J.V removes the message that says that Jesus for ever sitteth on the right hand of God because eventually Protestants realized that their translation expressly says that Jesus is NOT forever sitting on the right hand of God.
Nor was Jesus previously sitting on the right hand of God