What if God had written IN STONE?

[The_Watchers_2017]

Paul is dead

What I do, have done or will do is not your business

You presented the words of Paul, like you have adopted them.

but, me pointing out his real life actions by actually Preaching, making Disciples, that is not something you want to adopt.

you want to adopt his words but now he actually lived?

 

[Niki7]

you really think witnessing to the lost, preaching the Gospel of Jesus, Baptizing them, like Jesus Commanded is the person doing their own works?

Your post reeks with Rebellion, same as Witchcraft.

this is a DEBATE FORUM.

do you understand that concept, because, i don't believe for one moment You do.

why are you so angry then? just debate, even though you have comprehension problems with what people are saying, and we will continue to steadfastly post what we know is the biblical truth

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Jesus never said what you wrote

do you know Him?

yeah He did, He said He ALL Authority so GO Preach, Make Disciples Baptize.

 

[Niki7]

You presented the words of Paul, like you have adopted them.

but, me pointing out his real life actions by actually Preaching, making Disciples, that is not something you want to adopt.

you want to adopt his words but now he actually lived?

you really try with the gaslighting but it's just not your forte

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

why are you so angry then? just debate, even though you have comprehension problems with what people are saying, and we will continue to steadfastly post what we know is the biblical truth

i am not angry.
You attacked me. do you forget that?
i am addressing your attacks.

 

[Niki7]

yeah He did, He said He ALL Authority so GO Preach, Make Disciples Baptize.

I am going to stop posting to you for awhile because I can see you are just not comfortable with people who do not appreciate all the effort you put into being obnoxious

no, Jesus never said anything close to what you claim

He did say 'Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. ' It's in the Bible

keep ranting though since you cannot answer respectfully

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

you really try with the gaslighting but it's just not your forte

gas lighting?

wow, you going to cry now because i won't let you throw your tantrum and get away with it?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I am going to stop posting to you for awhile because I can see you are just not comfortable with people who do not appreciate all the effort you put into being obnoxious

no, Jesus never said anything close to what you claim

He did say 'Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. ' It's in the Bible

keep ranting though since you cannot answer respectfully

you should get the Bible and get educated.
your reasoning reads like a 12 year old.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

hey Nik,

in this thread, WHO, quoted who first?

enough said...

you want to run your mouth, don't be shocked when someone shuts it for you.

 

[Braweh]

post has been around awhile ((it's not capitalized)).

and post has never seen anyone, ever say "you're cursed for obeying the commandments!"

so, i would appreciate if you could find anyone ever saying that at any time. then maybe you and i both could try to have a productive conversation with that person.

but post has said that everyone under the law is condemned by the law, for sure -- because that's what scripture says:
what the law says, it says to those under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped. for all have sinned. no one will be justified by the law, and if righteousness was through the law, Christ died for nothing.

We are not under the Law for obeying the 10 Commandments.

For a certainty, you won't produce Scripture that says that.

 

[Braweh]

so much for "not one jot or tittle will pass away.." huh

Nothing will pass away from God's Law, the 10 Commandments.

 

[Braweh]

post has been around awhile

Are you not "post"?

If not, who is?

 

[Braweh]

close, but a machinist. we both use mathematics, prints, measuring tools, tools to cut materials down, and what we create is considered professional.
i do the carpenter work on my home, barns, buildings i have on my property.
i actually have a wood lathe, planer, jointer, table saw, etc and been looking at making a big long oak table

I love carpentry and woodworking. That's awesome.

That'd be a nice way to make a living.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Nik17

does this mean you're 17?

is your Dad still alive?

because my Dad would have broken his foot off in my backside if i was anything like you

 

[Niki7]

you should get the Bible and get educated.
your reasoning reads like a 12 year old.

Christians are now under the law of Christ and not the law, of which the 10 commandments are part of and not standalone commands.
This law was never given to Gentiles and those who believe any Christian, Jewish or Gentile, needs to keep parts of it are not under grace.

There have been numerous accusations made none of which are valid. The entire problem here is yourself and buddy either misunderstanding what others write or deliberately going off because you think you have the gift of judgement.

For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. James 2:10 All of it, is all of it and not just the 10 commandments. As a believer in Christ, we should understand that Christ fulfilled ALL the obligations of the law...ALL not just parts of it...which satisfied the wrath of God against all sin.

This is fundamental to understanding what transpired when Christ was crucified. Those who persist in claiming a Christian should follow this or that part of the law is not depending on Jesus for their salvation. They have an issue with guilt and mistakenly believe they need to contribute to their salvation by being 'good'.


The Greatest Commandment
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

so, your anger really has no place here and you should calm down and try to be reasonable and if you can't do that, or refuse to do that, then you need to review the fruit of the spirit

no spiritual gift of the Holy Spirit is worth a thing if the love of Christ is not manifested through that gift. that is one reason why we have so many today who uplift themself above others and imagine they can judge others as though God had appointed them in His place

The Bible makes very clear that the law, given to the Israelites and no one else, has been surpassed by the new law as given by Christ Himself.

 

[Braweh]

So if I put my trust in Jesus I will have other Gods before God, I'll bow down to idols, I'll take God's great and glorious name in vain, I won't keep the sabbath, I'll disrespect and dishonor my parents including my Heavenly Parent, I'll kill, commit adultery, steal, lie and covet? That is what you are saying here. What do you think I am? A politician?

Not sure if this was for me, but can't we put our trust in Jesus and obey His 10 Commandments?

Why does it have to be either, or?

Don't loving children trust their parents and obey them, mostly?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Christians are now under the law of Christ and not the law, of which the 10 commandments are part of and not standalone commands.
This law was never given to Gentiles and those who believe any Christian, Jewish or Gentile, needs to keep parts of it are not under grace.

There have been numerous accusations made none of which are valid. The entire problem here is yourself and buddy either misunderstanding what others write or deliberately going off because you think you have the gift of judgement.

For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. James 2:10 All of it, is all of it and not just the 10 commandments. As a believer in Christ, we should understand that Christ fulfilled ALL the obligations of the law...ALL not just parts of it...which satisfied the wrath of God against all sin.

This is fundamental to understanding what transpired when Christ was crucified. Those who persist in claiming a Christian should follow this or that part of the law is not depending on Jesus for their salvation. They have an issue with guilt and mistakenly believe they need to contribute to their salvation by being 'good'.


The Greatest Commandment
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

so, your anger really has no place here and you should calm down and try to be reasonable and if you can't do that, or refuse to do that, then you need to review the fruit of the spirit

no spiritual gift of the Holy Spirit is worth a thing if the love of Christ is not manifested through that gift. that is one reason why we have so many today who uplift themself above others and imagine they can judge others as though God had appointed them in His place

The Bible makes very clear that the law, given to the Israelites and no one else, has been surpassed by the new law as given by Christ Himself.

where did i say to FOLLOW the LAW?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

you attacked me over something i never said, that you thought i said?
like i said, you got nothing to offer!

 

[Niki7]

Christians are now under the law of Christ and not the law, of which the 10 commandments are part of and not standalone commands.
This law was never given to Gentiles and those who believe any Christian, Jewish or Gentile, needs to keep parts of it are not under grace.

There have been numerous accusations made none of which are valid. The entire problem here is yourself and buddy either misunderstanding what others write or deliberately going off because you think you have the gift of judgement.

For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. James 2:10 All of it, is all of it and not just the 10 commandments. As a believer in Christ, we should understand that Christ fulfilled ALL the obligations of the law...ALL not just parts of it...which satisfied the wrath of God against all sin.

This is fundamental to understanding what transpired when Christ was crucified. Those who persist in claiming a Christian should follow this or that part of the law is not depending on Jesus for their salvation. They have an issue with guilt and mistakenly believe they need to contribute to their salvation by being 'good'.


The Greatest Commandment
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

so, your anger really has no place here and you should calm down and try to be reasonable and if you can't do that, or refuse to do that, then you need to review the fruit of the spirit

no spiritual gift of the Holy Spirit is worth a thing if the love of Christ is not manifested through that gift. that is one reason why we have so many today who uplift themself above others and imagine they can judge others as though God had appointed them in His place

The Bible makes very clear that the law, given to the Israelites and no one else, has been surpassed by the new law as given by Christ Himself.

 

[Braweh]

Christians are now under the law of Christ and not the law, of which the 10 commandments are part of and not standalone commands.
This law was never given to Gentiles and those who believe any Christian, Jewish or Gentile, needs to keep parts of it are not under grace.

There have been numerous accusations made none of which are valid. The entire problem here is yourself and buddy either misunderstanding what others write or deliberately going off because you think you have the gift of judgement.

For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. James 2:10 All of it, is all of it and not just the 10 commandments. As a believer in Christ, we should understand that Christ fulfilled ALL the obligations of the law...ALL not just parts of it...which satisfied the wrath of God against all sin.

This is fundamental to understanding what transpired when Christ was crucified. Those who persist in claiming a Christian should follow this or that part of the law is not depending on Jesus for their salvation. They have an issue with guilt and mistakenly believe they need to contribute to their salvation by being 'good'.


The Greatest Commandment
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

so, your anger really has no place here and you should calm down and try to be reasonable and if you can't do that, or refuse to do that, then you need to review the fruit of the spirit

no spiritual gift of the Holy Spirit is worth a thing if the love of Christ is not manifested through that gift. that is one reason why we have so many today who uplift themself above others and imagine they can judge others as though God had appointed them in His place

The Bible makes very clear that the law, given to the Israelites and no one else, has been surpassed by the new law as given by Christ Himself.

But, ... the Law that Christ created and taught and obeyed was the 10 Commandments. That would logically be His Law.

And how do you interpret Jesus saying that those who teach and obey the 10 Commandments are greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven?
Matt. 5:19?

How do you interpret the next verse that says that we must be more righteous than those who teach the 10 Commandments but don't keep them?
Matt. 5:20?

How should we understand those teachings of Christ?