Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

[Fundaamental]

You have no evidence that Israel is acting as terrorists. Terrorists target civilian population to terrorize innocents. Israel gave fair warning to all the civilians in Gaza to leave before they began their war against Hamas. On the other hand Islamist terrorists have been terrorizing innocents all over the world.

fair warning for all could you go into detail of how they gave fair warning. All I saw was a load of leaflets being dropped on to the ground from a plane

And how would a none terrorist family who do no wrong expect there house to be blown up ?.

Shouldn't this fair warning for all be just directed at the terrorist ?.

Does fair warning for all justify the death of 5000 children in 4 weeks.



The news reports are reporting Isreal are now bombing the south parts of Isreal where the people of Gazza where asked to flea too.

And Isreal not asking like terrorists ?.

So what would you call 5000 children dead in 4 weeks ?

Would you call that a fair warning.

What else do you have to go on because all I'm seeing is 50 to 60 guns on a basement floor inside a hospital that could have been planted by anyone.

And every single news report saying none of images Isreal are showing as evidence for justification of attacking hospitals is neither clarified or backed with supporting evidence.

A long with doctors saying at thees hospitals who see these rooms everyday, they have never seen any of the guns inside there hospitals being displayed on television.

Then we have theese images of people being taken hostage in a hospital,

Which could have been staged by anyone..

And let's say theese images are true ? Are they Hamas terrorists or desperate people saying don't bomb are hospital

The doctors are saying they have never seen any terrorist activity at there hospitals ever, well at least up until now. Which may be a staged event or even desperate people like I just said.

But what's more important is, where is the evidence to support there claims for bombing the hospitals in the first place.

Two weeks ago Isreal said they never would attack hospitals, well that turned into a big lie

The last remaining hospitals in Gazza are now running out of water, new born babies on life support machines have died and are now having to be shipped to Egypt.

Disease is now spreading in the south where Gazza people have now been asked to leave to and there not enough food to feed them a whole family is surviving on one tinba tuna a day.

Not enough humanitarian aids are being allowed through, and because of no energy the sewage systems have collapsed and disease is rife.

So to put all this into perspective would you ask your self does any of this sound like being terrorised, because I don't know about you but if I was in this position I would feel terrorised

 

[Fundaamental]

hardly the time for a song pal do you people on here have any conviction or what

 

[Gideon300]

I find most of them are single young men. And they get their news from Tic Tok. They'll deny it, but the fact that they don't understand that they are as much an enemy in "Palestinian" eyes as the Jews are, shows they are low information voters. It's a pity, stubborn and will not listen to facts. As I said, I don't hear and have never heard these people crying about children dying in war zones around the world. Syria was gassing their own people, I don't recall these people screaming about the poor children and war crimes. Someone may be able to show me where I'm wrong, but I sure don't remember it. At this moment there are children stuck in war zones, but only the Jews are called terrorists when they defend themselves. smh

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
".........and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.…"

We live in the age of the deluded. I'm beginning to think that God is causing some to believe lies as foretold by Paul. Truth is a scarce commodity these days. And love of the truth even rarer.

 

[Gideon300]

fair warning for all could you go into detail of how they gave fair warning. All I saw was a load of leaflets being dropped on to the ground from a plane

And how would a none terrorist family who do no wrong expect there house to be blown up ?.

Shouldn't this fair warning for all be just directed at the terrorist ?.

Does fair warning for all justify the death of 5000 children in 4 weeks.



The news reports are reporting Isreal are now bombing the south parts of Isreal where the people of Gazza where asked to flea too.

And Isreal not asking like terrorists ?.

So what would you call 5000 children dead in 4 weeks ?

Would you call that a fair warning.

What else do you have to go on because all I'm seeing is 50 to 60 guns on a basement floor inside a hospital that could have been planted by anyone.

And every single news report saying none of images Isreal are showing as evidence for justification of attacking hospitals is neither clarified or backed with supporting evidence.

A long with doctors saying at thees hospitals who see these rooms everyday, they have never seen any of the guns inside there hospitals being displayed on television.

Then we have theese images of people being taken hostage in a hospital,

Which could have been staged by anyone..

And let's say theese images are true ? Are they Hamas terrorists or desperate people saying don't bomb are hospital

The doctors are saying they have never seen any terrorist activity at there hospitals ever, well at least up until now. Which may be a staged event or even desperate people like I just said.

But what's more important is, where is the evidence to support there claims for bombing the hospitals in the first place.

Two weeks ago Isreal said they never would attack hospitals, well that turned into a big lie

The last remaining hospitals in Gazza are now running out of water, new born babies on life support machines have died and are now having to be shipped to Egypt.

Disease is now spreading in the south where Gazza people have now been asked to leave to and there not enough food to feed them a whole family is surviving on one tinba tuna a day.

Not enough humanitarian aids are being allowed through, and because of no energy the sewage systems have collapsed and disease is rife.

So to put all this into perspective would you ask your self does any of this sound like being terrorised, because I don't know about you but if I was in this position I would feel terrorised

Tell me how you differentiate a terrorist from a civilian? Hamas can swap uniform for plain clothes and blend into the civilian population. And its a dumb idea to direct warnings to terrorists. They are the enemy Israel is trying to defeat. What army on the planet warns its enemy that they are about to be attacked? The opposite, armies try to catch their enemy by surprise.

Why would Israel tell Hamas how they found out about the tunnels and such? That would put Israel's spies at great risk and jeapordise the IDF's mission. Israel attacks Hamas. If a building gets in the way, then that's how it is. Rules of war permit the destruction of buildings if they are used by the enemy.

Hamas destroyed the water articulation system, ripping up pipework to make rockets. They've boasted about this. Hamas took the fuel intended for generators for their own wicked purposes. They took money intended to help Gazans and used it to build an army and the terror tunnel network.

Hamas alone is responsible for all the suffering, all the deaths and all the casualties of the war on both sides. If the 7th of October attacks had not happened, we would not be having this conversation.

 

[Moses_Young]

You have no evidence that Israel is acting as terrorists. Terrorists target civilian population to terrorize innocents. Israel gave fair warning to all the civilians in Gaza to leave before they began their war against Hamas. On the other hand Islamist terrorists have been terrorizing innocents all over the world.

The terrorists gave warning too. All the intelligence agencies in the world knew about it, except for Israel's, it seems. Warning doesn't make it right.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

The terrorists gave warning too. All the intelligence agencies in the world knew about it, except for Israel's, it seems. Warning doesn't make it right.

Hamas are designated terrorist by THIS country. There is no question about who they are. The fact that there are several here who don't know the difference... all I can say is I agree with what @Gideon just said, there is a strong delusion. Myself and others here have stated things that are fact. Just straight up facts and you red x and I'm thinking, that's literally a fact. I have to wonder if a few of you actually do live under a rock. smh

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

fair warning for all could you go into detail of how they gave fair warning. All I saw was a load of leaflets being dropped on to the ground from a plane

They have three different ways they let them know. It's not like they aren't use to this happening. They all know the drill, this is the life they live because of Hamas.

And how would a none terrorist family who do no wrong expect there house to be blown up ?.

Happens around the world every day. It's called war. And there is no way that there won't be casualties. That's why Israel has done what they have done to try and mitigate that. They know they will be blamed for a drop of blood instead of the terrorists who should be to blame.

Shouldn't this fair warning for all be just directed at the terrorist ?.

Does fair warning for all justify the death of 5000 children in 4 weeks.

No, it doesn't, though I highly doubt your numbers. Get mad about it, but get mad at the right people, Hamas.

The news reports are reporting Isreal are now bombing the south parts of Isreal where the people of Gazza where asked to flea too.

And Isreal not asking like terrorists ?.
So what would you call 5000 children dead in 4 weeks ?
Would you call that a fair warning.

To flee to? They have given every chance possible and every warning. They have paused for hours at a time to let people get out. The terrorists didn't do that, that's how you know the difference. If innocent people die it's on the head of Hamas.

What else do you have to go on because all I'm seeing is 50 to 60 guns on a basement floor inside a hospital that could have been planted by anyone.

Explain to me please why you don't think terrorists do terroristic things? We have long known them to be terrorists, this country considers them terrorists. But somehow you seem stunned to believe that terrorists would act like terrorists. Can you explain why?

And every single news report saying none of images Isreal are showing as evidence for justification of attacking hospitals is neither clarified or backed with supporting evidence.

Not really sure what you mean there. Israel isn't attacking hospitals. They have moved the babies out and are now moving the rest of the people there. See they wouldn't have to do this if the terrorists didn't tunnel like animals UNDER the hospital.

A long with doctors saying at thees hospitals who see these rooms everyday, they have never seen any of the guns inside there hospitals being displayed on television.

Sure, sure, and Hamas terroritsts who hold their own citizens at gun point and won't let them leave would never,never, never threaten their lives before they appear on tv. to say they see nothing.

Then we have theese images of people being taken hostage in a hospital,

Which could have been staged by anyone..

Sure, sure, let's not blame the terrorists, that's the important thing because there's no way they would do "terroristy" things. How dare we suspect the terrorists first?! Obviously it had to be staged.

The doctors are saying they have never seen any terrorist activity at there hospitals ever, well at least up until now. Which may be a staged event or even desperate people like I just said.

But what's more important is, where is the evidence to support there claims for bombing the hospitals in the first place.

Two weeks ago Isreal said they never would attack hospitals, well that turned into a big lie

No, that's a lie, they didn't attack the hospital. They moved babies and are now moving others out of the hospital. They could be like Hamas and not give a and blow everyone to bits. But they didn't.

The last remaining hospitals in Gazza are now running out of water, new born babies on life support machines have died and are now having to be shipped to Egypt.
Disease is now spreading in the south where Gazza people have now been asked to leave to and there not enough food to feed them a whole family is surviving on one tinba tuna a day.
Not enough humanitarian aids are being allowed through, and because of no energy the sewage systems have collapsed and disease is rife.

Well there's a good thing there is a solution to all this and it's 2 pronged. Don't pick a war with your neighbor and slaughter innocent people and take even babies hostage. And second, give up the hostages and take it like a man. Stop hiding in caves and take it like a man. You started it (Hamas) now the power is theirs to stop it.

So to put all this into perspective would you ask your self does any of this sound like being terrorised, because I don't know about you but if I was in this position I would feel terrorised

No because I'm not dumb enough to elect terrorists into office, I won't even vote Democrat! I would step over and say to the IDF, where do I join to get these donkey behinds out of power for good?! Sign me up! But that's just me usin' good 'ol common sense.

 

[Fundaamental]

They have three different ways they let them know. It's not like they aren't use to this happening. They all know the drill, this is the life they live because of Hamas.




Happens around the world every day. It's called war. And there is no way that there won't be casualties. That's why Israel has done what they have done to try and mitigate that. They know they will be blamed for a drop of blood instead of the terrorists who should be to blame.




No, it doesn't, though I highly doubt your numbers. Get mad about it, but get mad at the right people, Hamas.



To flee to? They have given every chance possible and every warning. They have paused for hours at a time to let people get out. The terrorists didn't do that, that's how you know the difference. If innocent people die it's on the head of Hamas.




Explain to me please why you don't think terrorists do terroristic things? We have long known them to be terrorists, this country considers them terrorists. But somehow you seem stunned to believe that terrorists would act like terrorists. Can you explain why?





Not really sure what you mean there. Israel isn't attacking hospitals. They have moved the babies out and are now moving the rest of the people there. See they wouldn't have to do this if the terrorists didn't tunnel like animals UNDER the hospital.



Sure, sure, and Hamas terroritsts who hold their own citizens at gun point and won't let them leave would never,never, never threaten their lives before they appear on tv. to say they see nothing.



Sure, sure, let's not blame the terrorists, that's the important thing because there's no way they would do "terroristy" things. How dare we suspect the terrorists first?! Obviously it had to be staged.







No, that's a lie, they didn't attack the hospital. They moved babies and are now moving others out of the hospital. They could be like Hamas and not give a and blow everyone to bits. But they didn't.




Well there's a good thing there is a solution to all this and it's 2 pronged. Don't pick a war with your neighbor and slaughter innocent people and take even babies hostage. And second, give up the hostages and take it like a man. Stop hiding in caves and take it like a man. You started it (Hamas) now the power is theirs to stop it.




No because I'm not dumb enough to elect terrorists into office, I won't even vote Democrat! I would step over and say to the IDF, where do I join to get these donkey behinds out of power for good?! Sign me up! But that's just me usin' good 'ol common sense.

ok thanks again for your advice but I can see why Isreal are getting away with there monstrosities, based on your response, it's because like many other people your bamboozled,

Obviously you must be from the USA who's news broadcasters also justify the reason why Isreal can commit theese monstrosities.

Where as here in the UK London a few days ago, the streets of London where was packed with tens of thousands calling for an end to this brutality from Isreal.

As well our news broadcasters in the UK have also shown smoke filled hospitals from Isreal soldiers invading them.
As well as this
Six weeks into its war on Gaza, Israel's attacks on hospitals have emerged almost as a motif of the conflict. At least 21 of Gaza's 35 hospitals – including the Strip's solo cancer centre – are completely out of service, and others have been damaged and are short of medicines and essential supplies.2 hours ago

https://www.aljazeera.com › news
Israel targets Gaza's Indonesian Hospital: Here is what's to know - Al Jazeera

Obviously you'll take no notice and defend the indefensible and justify it.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I can see why Isreal are getting away with there monstrosities, based on your response, it's because like many other people your bamboozled,

https://www.aljazeera.com › news And there it is, that's the answer to your problem right there. If you're willing to listen to terrorist news talk about terrorists, yeah, not going to get one single fact from them.

Obviously you'll take no notice and defend the indefensible and justify it.

Nah, you don't have to be any smarter than a 3 day old monkey to see what the facts are. You want to believe terrorist lies, by all means, don't let me stop you. You listen to that terrorist news night and day. But I suggest this, you and He Is Here and Mo and pals need to go live in a Muslim majority country, even better if it's under Hamas. Give it a good five years. And when you come back you all can give us the song and dance about how wonderful they are and what a great place it is to live. [/QUOTE]

 

[Fundaamental]

https://www.aljazeera.com › news And there it is, that's the answer to your problem right there. If you're willing to listen to terrorist news talk about terrorists, yeah, not going to get one single fact from them.




Nah, you don't have to be any smarter than a 3 day old monkey to see what the facts are. You want to believe terrorist lies, by all means, don't let me stop you. You listen to that terrorist news night and day. But I suggest this, you and He Is Here and Mo and pals need to go live in a Muslim majority country, even better if it's under Hamas. Give it a good five years. And when you come back you all can give us the song and dance about how wonderful they are and what a great place it is to live.

see I told you, that you would toss this one of too. It's obviously a personal matter for you,.. you have an issue with everything that is said, and find fault to back up your stance.

Aljazzera news not being in your expectations of how news broad casters conduct there affairs is hardly evidence to support your claim, especially seeing as many news reporters, that are not aljezzera are saying the same thing.

Here's the so called fast underground tunnels Isreal claimed was justification for there latest attack on entering Israel largest hospital.

Notice the tunnel isn't even under the hospital, then notice the the small array of weapons, then when you've tossed this one of I'll show you another report.

 

[Fundaamental]

And if you can be bothered to even take notice of the news report, ask yourself a question, shouldn't there be evidence of theese Hamas fighters fleeing the hospital ? As quoted by the leader of Isreal. Surly the hospital would have been under surveillance for an operation like that.

I mean I don't know about you or how your head works, but I do know common sense and how theese operations work.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

It's obviously a personal matter for you,..
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It's a personal matter for me, because it is a personal matter to God.

and find fault to back up your stance.
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Yes, that's called facts.

Aljazzera news not being in your expectations of how news broad casters conduct there affairs is hardly evidence to support your claim, especially seeing as many news reporters, that are not aljezzera are saying the same thing.
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I don't believe state run media, I don't care where they are.

Here's the so called fast underground tunnels Isreal claimed was justification for there latest attack on entering Israel largest hospital.
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No one attacked the hospital, let's try to stay on the facts.

Notice the tunnel isn't even under the hospital, then notice the the small array of weapons, then when you've tossed this one of I'll show you another report.

The facts are their headquarters are under the hospital. Who are they hiding from??!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I mean I don't know about you or how your head works, but I do know common sense and how theese operations work.

If you don't have sense enough to understand what a terrorist does and that every time they move their lips they are lying, you're not as smart as you think you are.

 

[Fundaamental]

If you don't have sense enough to understand what a terrorist does and that every time they move their lips they are lying, you're not as smart as you think you are.

tell me is this smoke inside the hospital or invisible fresh air

https://youtube.com/shorts/AK58EmT5DPE?si=eGbLqRjqeCgWTkPP

 

[Fundaamental]

Was this hospital on fire or was it it an imaginary rainbow

 

[Fundaamental]

Let's toss this one of too as they where warned in advance but just let me know if this is smoke in this hospital.

Or could you let me know if it's fair to disrupt hospitals, I mean hospitals are supposed to be honoured in war

 

[Fundaamental]

Now after you've watched theese videos with that very smart sharp tongue could you cast your mind back 3 videos ago when the leader of Isreal said there was no fire fight in the hospital ?. Oh and then do you think you could use your sharp tongue to honour hospitals

 

[Fundaamental]

Yet more people killed at a hospital by Isreal, but the only person saying they had justification has lied to everyone and now we see his Nazi dictator ship response.

Hitler in disguise watch

Israeli tanks have reportedly encircled Gaza's Indonesian Hospital, where the Hamas-run health ministry said 12 people were killed on Sunday night.
The hospital's director, Dr Marwan Al-Sultan, told the BBC that the post-operative care department was hit and troops were only about 20m (66ft) away.
On Monday evening, he said intermittent shooting could still be heard on site.
The Israeli military said its forces targeted "terrorists" who had opened fire at them from within the hospital.
The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said he was "appalled".
"Health workers and civilians should never have to be exposed to such horror, and especially while inside a hospital," Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Health ministry spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra accused Israel of "tightening its noose" around the hospital in the north of the enclave, and later told AFP news agency 200 patients had been evacuated by bus to Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis.
He said the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) was helping to coordinate the evacuation of the remaining 400 patients.
Meanwhile, 28 premature Palestinian babies evacuated on Sunday from Gaza City's besieged Al-Shifa Hospital, which Israeli forces raided last week, have been transported to Egypt for treatment.
Israel launched a major military campaign in Gaza in response to a cross-border attack by hundreds of Hamas gunmen on 7 October, in which at least 1,200 people were killed and about 240 others taken hostage.
Gaza's health ministry says more than 14,000 people have been killed in the territory since Israel launched its retaliatory campaign against Hamas.
The UN Security Council has called for "urgent and extended humanitarian pauses" for "a sufficient number of days" to allow UN agencies to safely enter the sealed-off territory.
But five days on, the International Rescue Committee says the killing and suffering of Palestinians has increased, and has urged the Security Council and others to bring about a ceasefire "without limits on its duration, to protect lives and allow aid to flow".

 

[Cameron143]

fair warning for all could you go into detail of how they gave fair warning. All I saw was a load of leaflets being dropped on to the ground from a plane

And how would a none terrorist family who do no wrong expect there house to be blown up ?.

Shouldn't this fair warning for all be just directed at the terrorist ?.

Does fair warning for all justify the death of 5000 children in 4 weeks.



The news reports are reporting Isreal are now bombing the south parts of Isreal where the people of Gazza where asked to flea too.

And Isreal not asking like terrorists ?.

So what would you call 5000 children dead in 4 weeks ?

Would you call that a fair warning.

What else do you have to go on because all I'm seeing is 50 to 60 guns on a basement floor inside a hospital that could have been planted by anyone.

And every single news report saying none of images Isreal are showing as evidence for justification of attacking hospitals is neither clarified or backed with supporting evidence.

A long with doctors saying at thees hospitals who see these rooms everyday, they have never seen any of the guns inside there hospitals being displayed on television.

Then we have theese images of people being taken hostage in a hospital,

Which could have been staged by anyone..

And let's say theese images are true ? Are they Hamas terrorists or desperate people saying don't bomb are hospital

The doctors are saying they have never seen any terrorist activity at there hospitals ever, well at least up until now. Which may be a staged event or even desperate people like I just said.

But what's more important is, where is the evidence to support there claims for bombing the hospitals in the first place.

Two weeks ago Isreal said they never would attack hospitals, well that turned into a big lie

The last remaining hospitals in Gazza are now running out of water, new born babies on life support machines have died and are now having to be shipped to Egypt.

Disease is now spreading in the south where Gazza people have now been asked to leave to and there not enough food to feed them a whole family is surviving on one tinba tuna a day.

Not enough humanitarian aids are being allowed through, and because of no energy the sewage systems have collapsed and disease is rife.

So to put all this into perspective would you ask your self does any of this sound like being terrorised, because I don't know about you but if I was in this position I would feel terrorised

They found lots of weapons, over 31 tunnels, and terrorists posing as doctors and nurses. They have command centers in hospitals.
When Israel went into the hospital, they brought medical personnel to help Palestinians.
Why aren't you angry at Hamas. They have spent untold millions on tunnels and munitions, causing hardship and poverty on their own people. Do you really think this will change as long as Hamas exists?

 

[Cameron143]

Now after you've watched theese videos with that very smart sharp tongue could you cast your mind back 3 videos ago when the leader of Isreal said there was no fire fight in the hospital ?. Oh and then do you think you could use your sharp tongue to honour hospitals

Don't firefights need people shooting from both sides?