Ball Earth conundrums

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
G

Gideon300

Well-known member
#541
Mar 18, 2021
5,441
3,222
113
#541
ByTheGraceOfGod said:
View attachment 257546
https://www.tiktok.com/@ifers.forumotion.com/video/7179325768420445483
Click to expand...
Actually, it's not flat. The human eye is unable to detect the curvature at such a short distance. The earth circumference is around 40,000 km. Ask the people who flew in the Concorde at 70,000 feet. They saw the curvature of the earth clearly. And so on and so forth. Countless proofs that the earth is a globe and still people are unconvinced. I understand scepticism. I do not understand those who stick to a theory when it is proven to be wrong.
 
GaryA

GaryA

Truth, Honesty, Love, Courage
#542
Aug 10, 2019
9,883
4,345
113
mywebsite.us
#542
Gideon300 said:
There is a difference between spiritual blindness and intellectual folly.
Click to expand...
You might be really surprised - amazed and astounded - at/by just how much intellectual folly occurs as a direct result of spiritual blindness... ;)
 
Zandar

Zandar

Well-known member
#543
May 16, 2023
1,651
653
113
#543





He has been banned so many times. He maybe a shill idk but no one does what he does.
 
G

Gideon300

Well-known member
#545
Mar 18, 2021
5,441
3,222
113
#545
GaryA said:
You might be really surprised - amazed and astounded - at/by just how much intellectual folly occurs as a direct result of spiritual blindness... ;)
Click to expand...
Sure, evolutionists are a good example of that. I'm 72. I'm hard to surprise nowadays. I am surprised at the ignorance surrounding the founding of the nation of Israel by people who call themselves Christians. I should not be, as the Bible warns us that there will be much deception in the last days.

All will be revealed soon enough. FE belief is pretty harmless. Ratcheting up hostility to Israel is not.
 
Susanna

Susanna

Well-known member
#546
Apr 14, 2023
1,623
534
113
48
Galveston and Houston
#546
GaryA said:
Try looking at flights from southern-most cities to other southern-most cities - the ones that begin and end in the 'southern hemisphere' on two different continents.
Click to expand...
I have. Try looking at a flight from Johannesburg to Sydney, plane identification number is Quantas VH-ZNI. It ain’t landing in 2,5 hours so you can see for yourself.
 
G

Gideon300

Well-known member
#547
Mar 18, 2021
5,441
3,222
113
#547
Susanna said:
I have. Try looking at a flight from Johannesburg to Sydney, plane identification number is Quantas VH-ZNI. It ain’t landing in 2,5 hours so you can see for yourself.
Click to expand...
Unfortunately logic and reason is not the strong point of FE believers. Every pilot, every navigator, every route scheduler and every mariner knows that the earth is a globe. Their lives may depend on it. If they believed FE, they would run out of fuel, not helpful on a plane or in the middle of the ocean. But FE adherents persist. I only post on the subject to help those who may doubt but are not yet committed.
 
GaryA

GaryA

Truth, Honesty, Love, Courage
#554
Aug 10, 2019
9,883
4,345
113
mywebsite.us
#554
Gideon300 said:
Sure, evolutionists are a good example of that.
Click to expand...
Yes - and, it is because they refuse to believe what the Bible says.

But - they are not the only ones that refuse to believe what the Bible says. And, unfortunately, some are even Christians.

The Bible describes the earth as being stationary, and that it does not move. Why are Christians so unwilling to believe it???

Gideon300 said:
I'm 72. I'm hard to surprise nowadays.
Click to expand...
I understand. I feel the same way. I have seen a lot. Not too much really surprises me anymore...

Gideon300 said:
I am surprised at the ignorance surrounding the founding of the nation of Israel by people who call themselves Christians.
Click to expand...
What exactly - or, in particular - are you referring to?

Gideon300 said:
I should not be, as the Bible warns us that there will be much deception in the last days.
Click to expand...
Yes, it does. And, there is.

What are the chances that you could fall victim to it?

What are the chances that Ball Earth is part of that deception?

What if all of us have been deceived all of our lives about many things?

What about pharmaceutical drugs?

Do you realize that the "building block" substances of all pharmaceutical drugs come from the left-over waste-product "sludge" of the oil distillation process? And, do you understand that - the reason they all have side-effects is because God did not design our bodies to "process" these substances?

A lot of things in this world are "hidden in plain sight" - you have to "do the research" to understand the real truth about them.

Gideon300 said:
All will be revealed soon enough.
Click to expand...
Yep. And, many Christians will be ashamed that they chose to believe Satan rather than God.

Gideon300 said:
FE belief is pretty harmless. Ratcheting up hostility to Israel is not.
Click to expand...
I can agree with that...
 
GaryA

GaryA

Truth, Honesty, Love, Courage
#556
Aug 10, 2019
9,883
4,345
113
mywebsite.us
#556
Susanna said:
I have. Try looking at a flight from Johannesburg to Sydney, plane identification number is Quantas VH-ZNI. It ain’t landing in 2,5 hours so you can see for yourself.
Click to expand...
I did look at it. And, I believe you are accepting and assuming much more "truth" from it than the actual data presents. Most of the data is actually "faked" - with the transponder data - if it has not been compromised in some way - being the only real data that is presented. And, that alone is by no means proof of a Ball Earth. There are too many other factors at play here - any-or-all of which may be reported incorrectly.

Plane speed is one of them. Even if the flight is real (which is yet to be proven) - it could be a plane going at a significantly higher speed than reported over a longer distance than reported. This is the flat-earth-reality case where the flight is made to look like it took place above a Ball Earth.

The lack of transponder data for the entire trip is very telling - showing us, in effect - that there is no satellite system present.

Show me a non-stop flight from Sydney, Austrailia to Santiago, Chile.

But - make sure there is someone we both trust on that flight to take very precise notes for the whole trip - that we may examine the details of their trip.
 
GaryA

GaryA

Truth, Honesty, Love, Courage
#557
Aug 10, 2019
9,883
4,345
113
mywebsite.us
#557
Gideon300 said:
Unfortunately logic and reason is not the strong point of FE believers.
Click to expand...
The "strength" of FE folks is the ability to look past the deception and see things as they really are.

Gideon300 said:
Every pilot, every navigator, every route scheduler and every mariner knows that the earth is a globe.
Click to expand...
No - they believe that the earth is a globe - they do not know that the earth is a globe.
 
GaryA

GaryA

Truth, Honesty, Love, Courage
#558
Aug 10, 2019
9,883
4,345
113
mywebsite.us
#558
Dino246 said:
I'm sure you would have us believe that pictures of you taken these different years will look identical.

smh...
Click to expand...
I'm sure you would have us believe that the appearance of the earth actually changed like that over a 40-year time period...?

SMH x 1,000,000

:rolleyes:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.