Who is Jesus?

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NotmebutHim

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"13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.........."

- Matthew 16:13-17 NKJV
 

CS1

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My Lord and Savior
 

Inquisitor

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Please someone begin that discussion directly answering the questions and see where it goes!

God bless you all
Good question.

John 1:18
No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

John 5:37
And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.

No one has heard the Father speak, certainly not in the Old Testament.

John 6:46
Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.

No one has ever seen the Father.

John 14:7
If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.

Now you have seen the Father and know you know Him!
 

wattie

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Well, thing is.. if you have baptism by immersion for receiving eternal life ...that's not Christian teaching. That's what a lot of cults do.

Water has no salvic properties..only Jesus payment for sin does. Immersion in water is publicly declaring you are a follower of Christ and picturing the salvation already given.

This is why I ask about this. It's vital to receiving eternal life.
 

tylerbones1313

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Well, thing is.. if you have baptism by immersion for receiving eternal life ...that's not Christian teaching. That's what a lot of cults do.

Water has no salvic properties..only Jesus payment for sin does. Immersion in water is publicly declaring you are a follower of Christ and picturing the salvation already given.

This is why I ask about this. It's vital to receiving eternal life.
It should never be the water we place our faith in but Christ and what doing so represents.
 

Soyeong

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Please someone begin that discussion directly answering the questions and see where it goes!

God bless you all
In John 1:14, the Son is God's word made flesh, in Colossians 1:15, the Son is the image of the invisible God, and in Hebrews 1:3, the Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact image of God's nature, so Jesus is the visible embodiment of the invisible aspects of God's nature that God's word was given to teach us how to express, such as holiness, righteousness, goodness, justice, mercy, faithfulness, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control, and so forth, which he expressed through setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience the Mosaic Law. Expressing aspects of God's nature through following the Son's example is the way to know, love, worship, believe in, and testify about Him.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Please someone begin that discussion directly answering the questions and see where it goes!

God bless you all
Are you asking for answers or just wanting to provide a question for discussion?

I just posted this morning Here
So that's the best place to start IMHO.
 

tylerbones1313

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Are you asking for answers or just wanting to provide a question for discussion?

I just posted this morning Here
So that's the best place to start IMHO.
I want to provide a place for those who want a deeper understanding of who Jesus is. So they can come to know him by faith and His Words we provide for the saving of their souls.
 

wattie

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Sprinkling, pouring, or immersion; all are fine. Not sure where the rest of you comment came from.
Well sprinkling and pouring do not picture the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. They don't count. Immersion in water does.

That is the best picture..and the only representative of His resurrection seen in scripture. Not sprinkling and not pouring.

You won't find either sprinkling or pouring in scripture. They are traditions from primarily Catholics, Anglicans, Presbyterian and Methodists. Particularly liberal ones.

I was a Methodist and grew up thinking nothing of it...then actually read scripture and saw it not in there and left Methodism for an independent church. Although it wasn't just messing with baptism that got me to leave Methodism. They also had topical sermons with next to nothing from the bible.
 

oyster67

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Who is Jesus?


The Creator and Sustainer of the universe.
The Son of God.
My Savior, who shed His blood to save my soul.
My Lord.

Matthew 16:
13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
 

tylerbones1313

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A young Jewish man enthusiastic about change
You need help understanding Scripture. That is why we are all doing our part and sharing our love for Christ that others may come to know Him through His Words. Read these Scriptures from a True Heart of faith and then tell me if you believe Jesus was just an mere mortal man.

John 8:58: "Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am.”
Colossians 1:15: “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.”
Hebrews 1:8: “But about the Son he says: “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.”
Revelation 1:8: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
 

NightTwister

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Well sprinkling and pouring do not picture the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. They don't count. Immersion in water does.

That is the best picture..and the only representative of His resurrection seen in scripture. Not sprinkling and not pouring.

You won't find either sprinkling or pouring in scripture. They are traditions from primarily Catholics, Anglicans, Presbyterian and Methodists. Particularly liberal ones.

I was a Methodist and grew up thinking nothing of it...then actually read scripture and saw it not in there and left Methodism for an independent church. Although it wasn't just messing with baptism that got me to leave Methodism. They also had topical sermons with next to nothing from the bible.
Sprinkling and pouring are represented in scripture. I personally like the symbolism of pouring. They aren't as you say traditions from some churches. They're actually the most common form of baptism in the history of the Church.