Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

[Fundaamental]

I would have left a long time ago.

Why you couldn't answer a simple question without copping out, It's not that easy to leave gaza let alone just abandon your home and leave, many are trapped in Gaza even when there is no more it's hard for them to leave, for many reasons.

It's a shame you have swayed from answering the truth and I'm disappointed that you being a father could have answered that question truthfully

 

[Fundaamental]

Ministry of Health in Ramallah says its 10,000. A simple fact is Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza. For me believing those numbers would be very foolish. Groups like Hamas I have seen over the years always say "It was children killed, it was a School, it was hospital". That one they lied about the hospital. Did you see the video or THOUSAND of pamphlets Israel dropped by plane over Gaza telling them to leave, then the videos of Hamas blocking them from leaving.

Its always easy to sit on the out side and judge. We hear from those that were Hamas and others from Palestine saying Israel should not stop till....haha I stopped typing... they said till all are dead. But yeah what is to much. This could turn into a very big war. The best I can do is pray for ALL with in around Israel to know Yeshua as lord.

The bcc have interviewed many doctors not just one who have answered truthfully over 10000 innocent civilians dead in 4 weeks and now half at the number children, with over 1200 children missing, probably trapped under rubble,

But why would you be concerned about the numbers not being accurate,

I've seen many many distraught parents on the news reported by BBC, and whole communities demolished, it's pure
evil what's going on.

 

[Cameron143]

Why you couldn't answer a simple question without copping out, It's not that easy to leave gaza let alone just abandon your home and leave, many are trapped in Gaza even when there is no more it's hard for them to leave, for many reasons.

It's a shame you have swayed from answering the truth and I'm disappointed that you being a father could have answered that question truthfully

If my children were used as shields, I would blame the ones who used them as shields. At the same time, I would be devastated by the loss of the child or children. My emotional estate wouldn't affect my cognition, however.
But as I said, I wouldn't have allowed for that possibility. I would have been gone already, despite the difficulties. You can choose to believe that or not.
The reason I answered as I did is because your proposition was hypothetical to me.

 

[Fundaamental]

Ministry of Health in Ramallah says its 10,000. A simple fact is Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza. For me believing those numbers would be very foolish. Groups like Hamas I have seen over the years always say "It was children killed, it was a School, it was hospital". That one they lied about the hospital. Did you see the video or THOUSAND of pamphlets Israel dropped by plane over Gaza telling them to leave, then the videos of Hamas blocking them from leaving.

Its always easy to sit on the out side and judge. We hear from those that were Hamas and others from Palestine saying Israel should not stop till....haha I stopped typing... they said till all are dead. But yeah what is to much. This could turn into a very big war. The best I can do is pray for ALL with in around Israel to know Yeshua as lord.

well there's no way I would leave my home

If my children were used as shields, I would blame the ones who used them as shields. At the same time, I would be devastated by the loss of the child or children. My emotional estate wouldn't affect my cognition, however.
But as I said, I wouldn't have allowed for that possibility. I would have been gone already, despite the difficulties. You can choose to believe that or not.
The reason I answered as I did is because your proposition was hypothetical to me.

well you said I hope Isreal keeps going until hamas is no more, I asked with good reason, and wondered if you would feal the same way if your child was killed by an Isreal bomb.

It's a shame your still copping out

 

[Cameron143]

well there's no way I would leave my home
well you said I hope Isreal keeps going until hamas is no more, I asked with good reason, and wondered if you would feal the same way if your child was killed by an Isreal bomb.

It's a shame your still copping out

My answer is yes. Otherwise, the threat to my children never ends. If Israel agrees to a ceasefire before Hamas is destroyed, my children would not be safe.
Now I have a question for you: is it more moral to save 10,000 or 100,000 ?

 

[Fundaamental]

My answer is yes. Otherwise, the threat to my children never ends. If Israel agrees to a ceasefire before Hamas is destroyed, my children would not be safe.
Now I have a question for you: is it more moral to save 10,000 or 100,000 ?

are you sure your a father ?

 

[Fundaamental]

Last I heard Isreal has already killed well over 100000 Palestinians under their current leader, 🙄

 

[Cameron143]

are you sure your a father ?

I have 8 precious children.
I played your game. According to your own standards, you are copping out. Please extend the same courtesy to me you desired from me and answer my question.

 

[Fundaamental]

I have 8 precious children.
I played your game. According to your own standards, you are copping out. Please extend the same courtesy to me you desired from me and answer my question.

if there that precious how come it wouldn't effect your cognitive state of mind if you lost one to an Isreal bomb ?

 

[Cameron143]

if there that precious how come it wouldn't effect your cognitive state of mind if you lost one to an Isreal bomb ?

The thing about discussions is that they are two ways. I have no problem answering your question. And I will if you answer mine. What I find inexplicable, however, is that someone who would say someone is copping out would make that their practice. Do as I say, not as I do.

 

[Fundaamental]

I have 8 precious children.
I played your game. According to your own standards, you are copping out. Please extend the same courtesy to me you desired from me and answer my question.

playing games 🙄 , your question wasn't worth answering, I can't answer it

 

[Cameron143]

playing games 🙄 , your question wasn't worth answering, I can't answer it

Sure we're playing games. That's on you. But the question I posed isn't hard to answer. You simply don't answer because it destroys your position. It's proof that your ideas are based in emotion. A truth I stated early on in our discussion.

 

[Fundaamental]

Sure we're playing games. That's on you. But the question I posed isn't hard to answer. You simply don't answer because it destroys your position. It's proof that your ideas are based in emotion. A truth I stated early on in our discussion.

I didn't see the question worth answering, because i believe every human life is a precious gift from God,

How can I possibly go against my morals and answer your question to sacrifice 10.000 people to save 100.000. or as you ment kill ten thousand people in war to save 100,000 people in the future.

I would prefer to be killed than fight in a war for any nuclear powered country in this world, and I wouldn't be bothered how I'm seen by anyone in my country the UK for saying so, and I know most of my Welsh buddies would back me up on that.


I would stand by that moral forever.

The value of every human life is also important to our father that he sent his one and only son that died for all mankind, that means every human being.

And anyone will be held accountable for any shedding or taking of life.

I have had no word from our father that this war has been sanctioned and approved by him.

Or any war since Jesus.

What I do hear From God is every war is orchestrated by people on the commands of Satan including USA UK Russia Isreal and all of these leaders know satan and talk to him, and follow his orders. that is what our father has told me.

Thats my position and it's not emotional one and niether have I played any games with you, where as you have

 

[Cameron143]

I didn't see the question worth answering, because i believe every human life is a precious gift from God,

How can I possibly go against my morals and answer your question to sacrifice 10.000 people to save 100.000. or as you ment kill ten thousand people in war to save 100,000 people in the future.

I would prefer to be killed than fight in a war for any nuclear powered country in this world, and I wouldn't be bothered how I'm seen by anyone in my country the UK for saying so, and I know most of my Welsh buddies would back me up on that.


I would stand by that moral forever.

The value of every human life is also important to our father that he sent his one and only son that died for all mankind, that means every human being.

And anyone will be held accountable for any shedding or taking of life.

I have had no word from our father that this war has been sanctioned and approved by him.

Or any war since Jesus.

What I do hear From God is every war is orchestrated by people on the commands of Satan including USA UK Russia Isreal and all of these leaders know satan and talk to him, and follow his orders. that is what our father has told me.

Thats my position and it's not emotional one and niether have I played any games with you, where as you have

The question was simple. Again you cop out. Is it more moral to have 10,000 people die, or 100,000?
You questioned me as a father earlier in our discussion because I answered based on intellect and not emotion. While emotions are great at identifying problems, they are terrible at fixing problems. I'm not interested in a solution that falls short of a providing a permanent solution. And your solution based on emotions falls short of that.
You made an appeal on moral grounds. So I asked which is more moral: allowing 10,000 people to die or 100,000 people to die? There is no solution where none die. There are only solutions where more or less die. Because you do not recognize this reality, you unwittingly assent to more deaths. And this is what always happens when emotions overrule intellect.
As an aside, you have said that all lives are equally precious and asked me a question designed to have me choose my children over other people's children. Emotionalism is always inconsistent.

 

[ByTheGraceOfGod]

The question was simple. Again you cop out. Is it more moral to have 10,000 people die, or 100,000?
You questioned me as a father earlier in our discussion because I answered based on intellect and not emotion. While emotions are great at identifying problems, they are terrible at fixing problems. I'm not interested in a solution that falls short of a providing a permanent solution. And your solution based on emotions falls short of that.
You made an appeal on moral grounds. So I asked which is more moral: allowing 10,000 people to die or 100,000 people to die? There is no solution where none die. There are only solutions where more or less die. Because you do not recognize this reality, you unwittingly assent to more deaths. And this is what always happens when emotions overrule intellect.
As an aside, you have said that all lives are equally precious and asked me a question designed to have me choose my children over other people's children. Emotionalism is always inconsistent.

 

[Cameron143]

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[Fundaamental]

I didn't see the question worth answering, because i believe every human life is a precious gift from God,

How can I possibly go against my morals and answer your question to sacrifice 10.000 people to save 100.000. or as you ment kill ten thousand people in war to save 100,000 people in the future.

I would prefer to be killed than fight in a war for any nuclear powered country in this world, and I wouldn't be bothered how I'm seen by anyone in my country the UK for saying so, and I know most of my Welsh buddies would back me up on that.


I would stand by that moral forever.

The value of every human life is also important to our father that he sent his one and only son that died for all mankind, that means every human being.

And anyone will be held accountable for any shedding or taking of life.

I have had no word from our father that this war has been sanctioned and approved by him.

Or any war since Jesus.

What I do hear From God is every war is orchestrated by people on the commands of Satan including USA UK Russia Isreal and all of these leaders know satan and talk to him, and follow his orders. that is what our father has told me.

Thats my position and it's not emotional one and niether have I played any games with you, where as you have

The question was simple. Again you cop out. Is it more moral to have 10,000 people die, or 100,000?
You questioned me as a father earlier in our discussion because I answered based on intellect and not emotion. While emotions are great at identifying problems, they are terrible at fixing problems. I'm not interested in a solution that falls short of a providing a permanent solution. And your solution based on emotions falls short of that.
You made an appeal on moral grounds. So I asked which is more moral: allowing 10,000 people to die or 100,000 people to die? There is no solution where none die. There are only solutions where more or less die. Because you do not recognize this reality, you unwittingly assent to more deaths. And this is what always happens when emotions overrule intellect.
As an aside, you have said that all lives are equally precious and asked me a question designed to have me choose my children over other people's children. Emotionalism is always inconsistent.

this question is something Hitler would ask

 

[Magenta]

this question is something Hitler would ask

Logically fallacious big time cop out.

 

[Cameron143]

this question is something Hitler would ask

The question deals with morality. Because you know it is more moral to save as many lives as possible, you refuse to answer. And because it is an emotional issue for you, you conflate me with a thoroughly immoral man. If I was as Hitler, I would be exceedingly offended and seek your ruin. Instead, I cover your sin and do not take offense.
Whatever you may think of me, I laud your defense of life. I just think the way you would move forward to accomplish your goal is misguided.

 

[Fundaamental]

Logically fallacious big time cop out.

rrrr de dums have you got a bee in your bonnet for addressing your friend as he should be for the way he's behaving,

Anyway I don't argue with women but I'm sure you will argue with men


I believe Hitler started of by killing one person and then thought it would be nice kill 10000, he then went on to kill 100000, the point is I couldn't kill one person, so how can I answer the question,

Or better still whilst where at it how can we even ask this question when there is only the word of social media who as I know and you should know if your a Christian, Satan runs the social media in this world.

And how can a person not show any emotion for heart broken parents in Gaza,