Israel Declares War

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Nehemiah6

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Liar, liar, pants on fire
Do not make false accusations but read your Bible instead.
26 For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. 28 And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day. (Joshua 8:26,27)
It was not only Ai, but " to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you". The "land" was the land of Canaan, which was occupied by many nations.
24 And they answered Joshua, and said, Because it was certainly told thy servants, how that the LORD thy God commanded his servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you, therefore we were sore afraid of our lives because of you, and have done this thing. (Joshua 9:24).
 

Magenta

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So what? You continue to harp on that when the Christian world knows about the coming Antichrist. So in effect you do NOT believe God.
I am not harping on anything. Unfortunately you refuse to admit that John is the only one
to use the term. You prefer to make false accusations instead. So like the father of all lies.


Do not make false accusations but read your Bible instead.
You should follow your own advice. Will you? Probably not.
 

Nehemiah6

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I am not harping on anything. Unfortunately you refuse to admit that John is the only one to use the term. You prefer to make false accusations instead. So like the father of all lies.
THAT IS A VERY FALSE AND EVIL STATEMENT. I will let God be the Judge. You have harped over and over again on John's use of "the Antichrist" but not once have you admitted that you are simply ignoring Bible prophecy. So I am done saying anything to you, especially since you connected a child of God with the Father of Lies. Shame on you.
 

cv5

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John was the only Bible writer to use the word Antichrist.
THE anti-christ is THE person who brings about the THE time of Jacobs trouble. He is THE Satan-man THE son of perdition.

John elaborates on the "spirit" of antichrist and "many".....yes. Nevertheless, these have an origin and source: the latter day ONE in fullness.
 

Smoke

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So what? You continue to harp on that when the Christian world knows about the coming Antichrist. So in effect you do NOT believe God.
Come on brother. Just discuss with her without saying personal things. I'm not saying Magenta is right or wrong (I don't care to engage in yalls discussion), but she is absolutely a believer of God and our sister in Christ. It's okay to disagree on things.
 
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Probably best to just stick to the news and the Biblical implications of events as they relate to prophecy.

I know that Amir Tsarfati of Behold Israel has some amazing updates on events as well as perspectives on the unfolding prophesy we are witnessing.

Church, your time here may be short. Pray for each other and for the peace of Jerusalem and the Salvation of Israel. What is coming for them is not anything I would wish on my worst enemy. Not Ezekiel 38 yet, but things are in motion.

Maranatha!!
 

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The days of Lot
 

cv5

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SCATTER THEN GATHERED THEN JUDGED

First, they were scattered.
(Jer 24:9 KJV) And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.

Second, they were gathered for judgment.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Then the Lord, God Tells the Israeli that He has had enough, and so it will be done; in our lifetime.
And last but not least, the Lord God removes them from their memory


King James Bible
Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
THE END
The Covenant Remembered

Eze 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
Eze 16:61
Then thou shalt remember thy ways, and be ashamed, when thou shalt receive thy sisters, thine elder and thy younger: and I will give them unto thee for daughters, but not by thy covenant.
Eze 16:62
And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD:
Eze 16:63
That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame, when I am pacified toward thee for all that thou hast done, saith the Lord GOD.
 

Moses_Young

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The government tried to murder you? I have issues with the vaccine, but I do not equate a mayor, or a governor or a President with "the government". The ultimate authority in the US is the constitution, and there is nothing in the constitution that supports people trying to murder you.
I guess we differ in our definitions then. The constitution merely outlines how the government is supposed to govern - the government are the ones doing the governing. Similar to the laws outlining what the police are supposed to enforce, but the police are the ones who are to enforce it.

Government
The act or process of governing, especially the control and administration of public policy in a political unit.
The office, function, or authority of a governing individual or body.
Exercise of authority in a political unit; rule.

If a cop is bad, it doesn't mean all cops are bad or the institution of cops is bad. If a teacher is a pedophile it doesn't mean they all are, or even that schools are inherently evil. If a politician is a crook it doesn't mean they all are. As far as I am concerned that bad cop carries no more weight than a good cop and the good cops outweigh the bad cops, same with the teachers, and everyone else working for the government. I remember when the gays were fighting for political voice by claiming they represented 10% of the country. In fact they represented 1%. Satan is a liar and will always try to inflate his importance and influence.
I'm not sure about police, but reasonably sure about government (e.g. politicians, bureaucrats, etc.) There are more bad than good. And I wasn't necessarily speaking against the institution of government, although I believe that as power corrupts, it should therefore be limited. I was speaking about the present government, which did try to murder me and succeeded in murdering many others.

Even during the revolutionary war no one thought that the British government was trying to murder the American people. The fight was that they were being taxed and so felt they should be given a voice in the government as well.
I'm sure they did, because the British government did murder many Americans, as I understand. It might not have been their core motive, but it certainly was the result.

Tell that to God and the Old Testament. When they were invaded they had conscription.
I'm not sure that's true. Read God's rules of battle below. Those who had just married, or had built vineyards, or were fearful, didn't have to fight. And I'd have no qualms fighting in God's army. Note also there were spoils of war in those days for the soldiers - they could also take wives of the captives, and plunder etc. So there was also a benefit for the risk, and they were doing God's work. These days, all the risk is born by the soldiers, and all the profit goes to the corrupt ones in government. And as we are in the New Covenant, warfare amounts to little more than murder, at best.

The Israelites might have had corrupt kings which didn't adhere to this, but that gets back to the constitution vs. the government argument (i.e. God's scriptures - the law - verses evil or fallible kings).

Deut 20:1-9
When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies, and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the Lord thy God is with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
And it shall be, when ye are come nigh unto the battle, that the priest shall approach and speak unto the people,
And shall say unto them, Hear, O Israel, ye approach this day unto battle against your enemies: let not your hearts faint, fear not, and do not tremble, neither be ye terrified because of them;
For the Lord your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.
And the officers shall speak unto the people, saying, What man is there that hath built a new house, and hath not dedicated it? let him go and return to his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man dedicate it.
And what man is he that hath planted a vineyard, and hath not yet eaten of it? let him also go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man eat of it.
And what man is there that hath betrothed a wife, and hath not taken her? let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her.
And the officers shall speak further unto the people, and they shall say, What man is there that is fearful and fainthearted? let him go and return unto his house, lest his brethren's heart faint as well as his heart.
And it shall be, when the officers have made an end of speaking unto the people that they shall make captains of the armies to lead the people.
 

Moses_Young

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Do you know the difference between "war crimes" and war casualties? War is war and you are trying to whitewash the TERRORISM which has led to Israel trying to defend itself.

So every possible means of defeating the enemy is simply war, not "war crimes". And you would do the same unless you were suicidal. In the past God actually told Israel to utterly exterminate certain nations. Was that righteous or unrighteous? Is there anything unrighteous with God? But you are getting on your moral high horse as though every terrorist must be protected. But God does not protect evildoers.

Also, America committed actual war crimes and no one has done a thing. Sending billions to Iran to promote terrorism is the real war crime. So why is criminal Biden not behind bars? He egged on Putin day after day so that eventually Putin would attack Ukraine. And the West SABOTAGED every effort for a peaceful settlement. What about those war crimes? What about sending dirty nukes to Ukraine?
I'm not whitewashing terrorism. I'd make all criminals pay - the terrorists, Benji and the Israelis who stood down the military and enabled them, those bombing civilians in Gaza (Israelis and Hamas), and Biden and Co. Justice requires all men be treated equally. No special privileges for being a president, a Jew, or a "freedom fighter".

Note that Israel protecting itself would have been relevant during the terrorist attacks. What is happening now is not self defense. It's war crimes.
 

Moses_Young

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Still waiting I am, or maybe it happened as Jesus predicted in the first century which makes so much more logical sense.... "This generation, When YOU see these things...

Last I read it was very likely King Charles with the irrefutable evidence of British Israelism.
The blue bloods been working very hard to keep their blood line clean I am told.
Could it not be that Daniel's prophecy was fulfilled in 70AD, but Revelation is yet to be fulfilled?

Just not sure what the motive would be otherwise for the elaborate installment of Trump in 2024 and his bringing of world peace (averting WW3), as some sort of saviour... Why make him out to be an anti-Christ, if he is not?
 

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Could it not be that Daniel's prophecy was fulfilled in 70AD, but Revelation is yet to be fulfilled?

Just not sure what the motive would be otherwise for the elaborate installment of Trump in 2024 and his bringing of world peace (averting WW3), as some sort of saviour... Why make him out to be an anti-Christ, if he is not?

In Scripture is the fourth beast slain,removed ect. or does it continue on afterward until the 400ad's and then become the 10 kings ect.? https://www.ushistory.org/civ/6f.asp
 

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Math is certainly not my strong suit, but I think I can put 2+2 together.
ALL, of the US armed forces are at critically low levels of recruitment.
A draft is almost unthinkable in our current climate, and frankly fighting age generation. Riots would quickly ensue if attempted.
There are currently too many fires and soon to be fires on the Global stage for us to continue with this military shortfall.
UNLESS....... A similar event took place.

9/11 had the biggest effect on military recruiting since Pearl Harbor | Fox News
 

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"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place. - Winston Churchill"

To the Peel Commission on a Jewish Homeland in Palestine, 1937.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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What is happening now is not self defense. It's war crimes.

The only ones that are guilty of war crimes is Hamas. The people that are tearing down pictures of child hostages, support Hamas. The people yelling "from the river to the sea" support terrorism. The people making colleges unsafe for Jewish students, the support Hamas terrorists. If you don't know the difference between terrorists and a democracy, you may be antisemitic.
 

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Math is certainly not my strong suit, but I think I can put 2+2 together.
ALL, of the US armed forces are at critically low levels of recruitment.
A draft is almost unthinkable in our current climate, and frankly fighting age generation. Riots would quickly ensue if attempted.
There are currently too many fires and soon to be fires on the Global stage for us to continue with this military shortfall.
UNLESS....... A similar event took place.

9/11 had the biggest effect on military recruiting since Pearl Harbor | Fox News
But what if Aragorn goes into the mountain where the dead are and gets the 81 million who voted for Biden to come fight for America?
 

Smoke

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James O'Brien's simple question to caller defending Israel's tactics in Gaza

This man completely exposes the heart of someone on why Israel wouldn't be adopting the same strategy if Hamas was hiding inside Israel. It's worth a listen to if you have a few minutes.