Israel Declares War

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ThereRoseaLamb

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The nation state of Israel is a counterfeit Israel and Hamas is a death cult. Palestinians are lost souls oppressed by evil on every side.

Palestinians have voted Hamas in as their voice and speaks for them. They are not poor lost souls. They are not victims here. Israel isn't counterfeit, that's untrue.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Holy smokes... If this is true, it's no surprise it isn't being reported on. Why let facts get in the way of a satanic agenda?

It's stunning how you all will run with any story found in any corner of the net, but flat out won't believe people that are on the scene and telling what they see.

"The Grayzone is an American fringe, far-left news website and blog". It is known for its critical coverage of the US and its foreign policy,misleading reporting,and sympathetic coverage of authoritarian regimes.

Not one positive story covering Israel. They denied Chinese human rights abuses and spread Russian propaganda. THIS :poop: you all will swallow and believe as truth. smh
 

HeIsHere

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The Scripture isn't going to tell you that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust and that Oct.7 was the worst attack on Jews since that time.

If scripture is silent on this then best we not engage in newspaper eschatology.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You seem determined to confuse HiH with the facts when their mind is already made up contrary to facts.
I am really shocked with a lot that I am seeing I guess. I can't understand it. I'm hoping showing proof will help, it isn't. I guess no sense to beat a dead horse.
 

ZNP

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So armageddon is a peace offering to keep the world from jumping into a war between two hatefilled factions?
All the nations coming to fight Israel become the peace offering. Their flesh is given to the foul of the earth. It is a peace offering to the earth for the death and destruction these nations have wrought.
 

Smoke

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God sent men into battle for the very same reason Israel is doing what it's doing.
Are you saying the oppressed Palestinians on the West Bank and East Jerusalem should go to battle because "Israel is doing what it's doing" when it comes to occupying, oppressing, displacing and settling on land that isn't internationally recognized as theirs? You finally acknowledge this is a war crime?

I pray for a peaceful solution seeing as Hamas isn't there but Palestinians are still being killed.
 

ZNP

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If scripture is silent on this then best we not engage in newspaper eschatology.
We have a bunch of prophecies concerning Israel and a variety of wars:

Psalm 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: 6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; 7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

This refers to the countries we see right now, you have the Palestinians in Gaza, West bank, Jordanians, Hezbollah and Lebanon, and Syria. Ishmaelites refer to Arabs, and Hagarenes refer to Hagar's family from Egypt. Moab, Ammon both live in Jordan now. Amalek refers to Hamas and Philistines make up the Palestinians. Edom refers to Jordanians and those associated with the Rothschilds (Red shields), they call themselves Jews and are not. Inhabitants of Tyre refer to Hezbollah and Assur refers to Syria.

Jeremiah 49:34 The word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet against Elam in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, saying, 35 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might.

The bow of Elam refers to the missiles on the west coast of Iran.

Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. 2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. 3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the Lord of hosts. 4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.

Damascus is a major city in Syria, the oldest city that has been continuously inhabited on earth. It will be a ruinous heap, similar to Methusaleh dying being a sign to get into the ark for Noah. The cities of Aroer are in Gaza, that will be forsaken. Ephraim is a word used for the northern tribes of Israel and for the youngest son of Joseph, I believe this refers to the US which is where 50% of the world's Jews live. We are a superpower, but when this happens the US will cease to be a superpower. The glory of Jacob refers to the US and Israel being the richest nations on earth, they shall become thin, with famine, the collapse of the dollar, and their collapse as a superpower.

Ezekiel 38:1 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: 6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

These countries refer to Russia, all the Stan nations like Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia and Libya. Gomer probably refers to Germany. I believe this refers to all these nations descending on Israel because they have discovered oil (the formation will look like a fish hook). This takes place after the US is destroyed as a superpower, Israel will be left without any allies.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. 8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. 10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: 11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, 12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

Tarshish refers to the UK. Sheba to Yemen and Dedan to Saudi Arabia. Young lion refers to the US. I once visited Mexico and they all have bars on the windows of the homes. I lived in Taiwan and again, everyone has bars on all the windows. The US is an unwalled city, the US is the place that is inhabited by people from out of all the nations. Israel is a walled city and it is doubtful that will change any time soon. When the US is destroyed as a superpower many countries will come to take spoil. Already we have been filled with over 8 million illegal aliens from all over the world, military aged men who we think are here to take spoil once the war breaks out. Saudi Arabia is going to work with BRICS to replace the US dollar.

I believe this is the order we might see this in, though Damascus might be destroyed before Elam.

1. Damascus is reduced to a ruinous heap.

2. As a result there is a massive attack on the US and on Israel.

3. The bow of Elam is destroyed, but the US as a superpower is also wiped out. This happens at the time of the rapture.

4. Those left behind are in abject poverty and famine. Gaza is abandoned.

5. With the US destroyed a large group of nations assemble themselves against Israel because they have discovered a massive oil formation.

6. Other nations look to spoil the US after the cataclysm that hits the US.

This is where we are in the seven year tribulation leading ultimately to Armageddon.
 

Smoke

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Palestinians have voted Hamas in as their voice and speaks for them. They are not poor lost souls. They are not victims here. Israel isn't counterfeit, that's untrue.
Still spewing the same rhetoric. It's true that "Palestinians" voted Hamas in power in 2006 with 44% of the vote. It's also true that 47.3% of the population is under 18 and didn't vote for Hamas. If we factor in that less than half of the Palestinians voted for Hamas in 2006, include the high birth rate population over the last 17 years, it's safe to say that only a fraction of today's Palestinians actually voted for Hamas. Only someone lacking love in their heart would see a blown up Palestinian baby and refuse to call him/her a victim.

"Repeat a lie often enough and people will repeat it."
 

Smoke

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It's stunning how you all will run with any story found in any corner of the net, but flat out won't believe people that are on the scene and telling what they see.
"The Grayzone is an American fringe, far-left news website and blog". It is known for its critical coverage of the US and its foreign policy,misleading reporting,and sympathetic coverage of authoritarian regimes.

Not one positive story covering Israel. They denied Chinese human rights abuses and spread Russian propaganda. THIS :poop: you all will swallow and believe as truth. smh


The key word is "if" in "If it is true..."

If you don't believe it, at least take the time to see if it's really true or not. You're aware CNN is saying the same thing FOX News is about this conflict right? Is CNN far-right now too? We can conclude that a broken clock is right twice a day... Before I co-sign, I do need to vet the source more.
 

Smoke

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It's just the same arguing points from the media.



Question: If the goal is to not kill civilians, is the plan working when you're killing exponentially more civilians than Hamas terrorists?

Insert one of these scripted talking points:

"So Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself?"

"Do you condemn the Hamas attack on October 7th?"

"But Hamas is the one that killed civilians on October 7th first!"

"War is ugly. Better not start it!"

"Unfortunately, the children are just collateral damage."

"What would you do differently?!"

"At least those children are in Heaven and Hamas can't harm them anymore."
 
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Locoponydirtman

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It's just the same arguing points from the media.



Question: If the goal is to not kill civilians, is the plan working when you're killing exponentially more civilians than Hamas terrorists?

Insert one of these scripted talking points:

"So Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself?"

"Do you condemn the Hamas attack on October 7th?"

"But Hamas is the one that killed civilians on October 7th too!"

"War is ugly. Better not start it!"

"Unfortunately, the children are just collateral damage."

"What would you do differently?!"

"At least those children are in Heaven and Hamas can't harm them anymore."
Sounds about right.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I bet the vote in Gaza, was a pure and undefiled democratic process too. Im sure there was no coercion, fraud, election tampering, and all was pristine as the driven snow.