Israel Declares War

[Underwhosewings]

well I was a baptist.

While I do not consider myself a baptist any longer. i was still converted as a baptist.

So now you are……

 

[Cameron143]

The church that God is building.

I thought that's where the Transformers came from.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

As mentioned earlier... God in OT times destroyed entire nations in self defense of Israel.

Because that was the only solution since these folks have such hatred for the Jews they will never stop trying to destroy them.

The muslims today are the same way... some of them must be utterly destroyed because if they aren't them they will never stop trying to destroy Israel.

Since the muslims continually say publicaly they are hell bent on destroying Israel... they must be utterly destroyed!

No, it's not a nice thought but in this world sometimes it comes down to kill... or be killed.

In that situation we have to make a choice.... let the demon possessed idiots murder us, or do we want to whack them before they whack us?

This is the state of affairs for Israel right now.

Sadly some of so weak mentally and emotionally they would like to see Israel wiped off the map rather than hamas being wiped off the map.

I dont want to see the state of israel wiped off the map. I would that they and the muslims be evangelized.
I get it.
But when i see the destitute protesting the terror, i think its time to come along side amd empower.

 

[tobewholeagain]

Israel got its statehood using terrorisms.
FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE
Hagana, Irgun and Stern gangs who threw bombs into buses, assassinated British and other officials and murdered Palestinians way before the Palestinians retaliated in kind.
https://rense.com//general21/pastzionist.htm
As I see it, Bibi is pulling another con and he is again getting his way.

 

[NightTwister]

The church that God is building.

Which one is that? Does it have a name?

 

[tobewholeagain]

I dont want to see the state of israel wiped off the map.

I do not want Israel whipped out.
I want the leader of Israel, representing the people of Israel to:
Ask the Lord to forgive us.
Welcome all, Palestinians, and anyone else as our brothers and sisters.
Once done, I believe peace will start to envelope the Middle East.

 

[iamsoandso]

Not sure I remember the details of the conversation but I think we covered this before.

I feel like you have to take care of the big picture first and then chip away at the details, I would start with the Oliver discourse and see how that fits into being fulfilled.

Some say Nero but not sure I am completely convinced.

Yep I don't see Nero fulfilling it either...

 

[JimmyTheLock]

in full preterism we are told that they see all of these prophecies being fulfilled by ad70

Pretty easy to refute that...

 

[JimmyTheLock]

I do not want Israel whipped out.
I want the leader of Israel, representing the people of Israel to:
Ask the Lord to forgive us.
Welcome all, Palestinians, and anyone else as our brothers and sisters.
Once done, I believe peace will start to envelope the Middle East.

That will never happen... not until Jesus returns and starts His 1000 year reign and throws the devil and his followers in to hell.

There will be NO peace on earth.., until Jesus gets here.

Now when the man of sin, the son of perdition arrives on the scene... they will be a time of false peace.

And many who desire peace above God's Will being done... will fall for this guy who is the anti-christ and they will be deceived by him and follow him in to eternal torment.

 

[iamsoandso]

So what do you make of all that?
And still curious who you believe was being worshipped in the temple by 1st century Jews after the resurrection.

In Acts 21 which is estimated at ad57-59 (so 30 years after his resurrection) James,the disciples even Paul were still there acting as if it was in their eyes still active if not and they had seen it as polluted by the AOD they would have fled. In modern times we say I think this or others that but the ACTIONS of those Apostles and disciples to me stand out as to how they saw it. James in Acts 21 says to Paul what many had heard about this and so ask him outright it. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/21.htm

 

[iamsoandso]

Pretty easy to refute that...

I'm meaning we as in general Christianity(I'm not preterit)....

 

[Cameron143]

In Acts 21 which is estimated at ad57-59 (so 30 years after his resurrection) James,the disciples even Paul were still there acting as if it was in their eyes still active if not and they had seen it as polluted by the AOD they would have fled. In modern times we say I think this or others that but the ACTIONS of those Apostles and disciples to me stand out as to how they saw it. James in Acts 21 says to Paul what many had heard about this and so ask him outright it. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/21.htm

What I'm asking is...who is being worshipped? Is it God? What purpose was sacrifice? Was that to God? I'm not interested in what some source says...simply what you believe in your own words.

 

[tobewholeagain]

That will never happen... not until Jesus returns and starts His 1000 year reign and throws the devil and his followers in to hell.
There will be NO peace on earth.., until Jesus gets here.

It saddens me that you believe this.
May God be with you.
May you and yours live a long and peaceful lives.
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[iamsoandso]

What I'm asking is...who is being worshipped? Is it God? What purpose was sacrifice? Was that to God? I'm not interested in what some source says...simply what you believe in your own words.

I believe they were worshiping God.

 

[Cameron143]

I believe they were worshiping God.

With sacrifices? And how does one worship God without acknowledging Christ?

 

[iamsoandso]

With sacrifices? And how does one worship God without acknowledging Christ?

I see Jesus and God as one and the same. Do you see James ,Paul's and the disciples actions at that time as incorrect?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I think they are one of the many churches that belong to that church..

what church do you think it is

 

[maxwel]

Interesting Update:

Audio of Jihadist calling back home to brag about killing Jews.
https://t.co/Xv0ykyxvrF

It's always possible this audio is doctored.
However...
we've seen video of them shooting and killing unarmed Israeli civilians, and trying to chop the head off a dead Jew, with a shovel, just for laughs. We've also seen Palestinians all over the world marching in protests screaming "Kill the Jews." And just the other day they released two 80-year-old female hostages - and if you work that backward, that means they were capturing 80-year-old women as hostages.

So ya know... there's ample precedent to suggest the recording is genuine.

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[Cameron143]

I see Jesus and God as one and the same. Do you see James ,Paul's and the disciples actions at that time as incorrect?

If they were sacrificing animals, yes. But I have never heard that was their practice. And they met daily to worship and break bread from house to house. Paul mentions collections and gathering on the first day of the week.
Paul, when he traveled to a new city would go to the synagogue initially, but I never heard it was for worship, but to share the gospel.
In Acts 20, wasn't Paul preaching on the first day of the week? Acts 20:7.

 

[tobewholeagain]

It's always possible this audio is doctored.
However...

Finally, an honest opinion
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