Israel Declares War

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Cameron143

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I'm pretty sure the Palestinians would have preferred Gaddafi's dictatorship to Israel's so-called democracy. But Gaddafi could be a bad guy too.
Gaddafi was so loved by his people that they butchered him in the street. Comparing two bad choices is just the lesser of two evils. Do you know of any good examples in the world today?
 

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And sometimes even less, depending on who is in charge of counting the votes, and how many votes each one gets!

Sad thing to watch the USA plummet. :(

They are woefully unprepared for the emerging new power alliances.

Pride goes before the fall.
 

Cameron143

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Democracy works for the 51%.
Democracy works for all. In authoritarian regimes, 51% can rise to 75% easily when some autocrats come to power. The increase isn't because many came over to the rulers side, but because so many of the opposition no longer exist.
Democracy is the worst form of government besides all the others.
 

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Gaddafi was so loved by his people that they butchered him in the street. Comparing two bad choices is just the lesser of two evils. Do you know of any good examples in the world today?
Ha, ha. By a bunch of communists on Hillary's payroll? You don't think it could happen to Trump in America, if he wasn't being protected? Or perhaps Netanyahu in Gaza? It didn't happen without the US's firepower. You asked for an example, and I gave it. Just because some people will do evil things doesn't make it less so.
 

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Ha, ha. By a bunch of communists on Hillary's payroll? You don't think it could happen to Trump in America, if he wasn't being protected? Or perhaps Netanyahu in Gaza? It didn't happen without the US's firepower. You asked for an example, and I gave it. Just because some people will do evil things doesn't make it less so.
Gaddafi was your example? I don't think so.
 

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Ha, ha. By a bunch of communists on Hillary's payroll? You don't think it could happen to Trump in America, if he wasn't being protected? Or perhaps Netanyahu in Gaza? It didn't happen without the US's firepower. You asked for an example, and I gave it. Just because some people will do evil things doesn't make it less so.
Remember, Hamas may not like Netanyahu, but Israel does.
 

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Gaddafi was your example? I don't think so.
Netanyahu would likely suffer the same fate as Gaddafi in Gaza, if the US bombed all of his protection. It doesn't prove one is a better leader over the other. My point was Palestinians would likely have a better life under dictator Gaddafi, than so-called democratic Netanyahu, and the puppet government installed in Palestine.
 

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Lord Jesus according to your word we pray that the enemy would see this take place before their eyes. We pray for a judgement that is just, fair and true.

You are God, they are not!

You are the Savior of the world, they are not!

They are hate, You are love!

The Islamists are trying to blackmail America into not fighting against them.

9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: 10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.

The are trying to extort funds from America to continue funding terrorism around the world.

11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: 12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

Lord Jesus we appeal to the Great I Am who sits supremely ruling over all! In all these judgements we pray that God, the great I Am would be glorified. May the fear and dread of You fall on all of this evil society.

Lord they are threatening to kill, rape, pillage and take hostages just as Hamas did in Israel.

13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord. 17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

You are the alpha and omega, the first and the last, the bright and Morning Star. You are the hope that they cannot destroy. When they see this may terror grip their heart. You are the truth they cannot crush, the living word they cannot destroy! May they break their hands and their wrists when they fight against You. Jesus, You are the power within your children, You are the boldness inside them for things to come. When they speak may these cause ten thousand to flee before them.

Lord Jesus you are the voice within us that will not be stopped, may we run through them exposing them to be a paper tiger. Lord Jesus you are the strength for us to face death because we will not refuse your Holy name. When their henchman see this may they fall down on their knees and declare that Jesus is truly in our midst. You are the Lord. You are our provider. You are our Peace. May our testimony shine bright in these dark days that all the unbelievers would see and know that Jesus is Lord and the Antichrist is none of these things.

Jesus is the judge, the righteous judge over all these things. May the world see this and may they also see that these elites and Satan worshippers are not. May they see that they are powerless against the Lord Jesus and against His right hand of justice. Finally, may they see through our testimony, through the word they cannot stop that everything they are doing is only allowed because it will fulfill God's written word.
 

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Remember, Hamas may not like Netanyahu, but Israel does.
It doesn't. That's why Netanyahu allowed this false flag. It was supposed to be Israel's 911, and garner support for his corrupt government. But it has backfired, and the world has seen what kind of a criminal he is. I believe he will back out of bombing Palestine over the next week or so, after committing war crimes (and the US being unable to support him). But I don't expect there will be any political escape for the crook in the months to come.

I could be wrong - I'm not a prophet. But listen to what Trump says about him. Not complimentary - the guy is clearly lower than a weasel.

(My suspicion - is that Netanyahu used/uses Hamas like the CIA used Al-CIA-da and ISIS. Creating terrorist groups in order to keep people in fear, and keep themselves in power).
 

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It doesn't. That's why Netanyahu allowed this false flag. It was supposed to be Israel's 911, and garner support for his corrupt government. But it has backfired, and the world has seen what kind of a criminal he is. I believe he will back out of bombing Palestine over the next week or so, after committing war crimes (and the US being unable to support him). But I don't expect there will be any political escape for the crook in the months to come.
As goes Israel so goes the US
 

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It doesn't. That's why Netanyahu allowed this false flag. It was supposed to be Israel's 911, and garner support for his corrupt government. But it has backfired, and the world has seen what kind of a criminal he is. I believe he will back out of bombing Palestine over the next week or so, after committing war crimes (and the US being unable to support him). But I don't expect there will be any political escape for the crook in the months to come.

I could be wrong - I'm not a prophet. But listen to what Trump says about him. Not complimentary - the guy is clearly lower than a weasel.

(My suspicion - is that Netanyahu used/uses Hamas like the CIA used Al-CIA-da and ISIS. Creating terrorist groups in order to keep people in fear, and keep themselves in power).
Agree, he has a fragile coalition government.
 

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Jeremiah 30:7-9 KJV
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

[8] For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:

[9] But they shall serve the LORD their God,

and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
 

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Netanyahu would likely suffer the same fate as Gaddafi in Gaza, if the US bombed all of his protection. It doesn't prove one is a better leader over the other. My point was Palestinians would likely have a better life under dictator Gaddafi, than so-called democratic Netanyahu, and the puppet government installed in Palestine.
You are misplacing the blame. Netanyahu would not be killed by his own people. The problem for Palestinian people is Hamas. Hamas shifts the blame to Netanyahu. Netanyahu has sworn to protect his people. And that's what he is doing. You probably don't recognize that because it's not true here. But some countries actually protect their borders and have leaders who put their people first.
 

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You are misplacing the blame. Netanyahu would not be killed by his own people. The problem for Palestinian people is Hamas. Hamas shifts the blame to Netanyahu. Netanyahu has sworn to protect his people. And that's what he is doing. You probably don't recognize that because it's not true here. But some countries actually protect their borders and have leaders who put their people first.
We disagree again, because I think the leadership in most countries is corrupt. "They're all in this together".
 

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That is very interesting since many have acknowledged Israel as a nation and it right to exist, as has Palestine, yet Israel has returned the acknowledgement with severe, ongoing human rights abuses and occupation.

Your comment would hold a lot more weight if you had said China, and I am not sure even they want to take over the world. But there are indeed many countries that are tired of western imperialism.
Are you serious? Or are you just trying to argue?

I ask. because anyone who has been looking over in the middle east would not say what you just said.

Are you an proponent of islam?
 

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Whether that particular story is true doesn't change the horrific things we know did happen. So stop acting like that is the only story to be told and the rest of them aren't just as horrific. smh
of course there are bad things being done by hamas, but a good rule of thumb is because there is so much propaganda being pumped out about the conflict in Israel, don't just quickly believe what is coming out of there...
 

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We disagree again, because I think the leadership in most countries is corrupt. "They're all in this together".
Many, if not most are. But that doesn't make my statements wrong. If you want to promote a benevolent autocratic, I'm afraid at present it only exists in the kingdom of heaven.
 

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Many, if not most are. But that doesn't make my statements wrong. If you want to promote a benevolent autocratic, I'm afraid at present it only exists in the kingdom of heaven.
Of course no human ruler will compare to God. But there are many benevolent dictators who were better than leaders of so-called democratic nations. I gave you one example, but there are many more. A democracy has little correlation to good leadership, because they are so easily corrupted.