Israel Declares War

[ZNP]

The accusation of anti-Semitic would only apply to genealogy. That's why it matters. Semitism (or Anti-Semitism) has nothing to do with religion or politics. And yet politics is primarily the accusation it is applied to.

When people are against the Israeli government we often refer to that as Zionism and anti Zionism, whereas when a synagogue is burned or painted or swastikas are put on tombstones we call that "anti semitism".

So no, anti semitism is not a political comment, it is a religious one. Nor is it based on genealogy, no one requests a DNA test before they are going to express their hatred, they simply assume if you are in a synagogue you are a jew.

 

[Moses_Young]

When people are against the Israeli government we often refer to that as Zionism and anti Zionism, whereas when a synagogue is burned or painted or swastikas are put on tombstones we call that "anti semitism".

So no, anti semitism is not a political comment, it is a religious one.

I guess it depends on your local media. I'm used to the Lamestream Media or similarly compromised politicians describing any speech exposing the crimes of Zionists, or even opposing the aims of the same, as "anti-Semitism". The word is certainly used incorrectly from it's etymology.

 

[ZNP]

I guess it depends on your local media. I'm used to the Lamestream Media or similarly compromised politicians describing any speech exposing the crimes of Zionists, or even opposing the aims of the same, as "anti-Semitism". The word is certainly used incorrectly from it's etymology.

I do not listen to mainstream media news. They are no longer news networks but propaganda departments of the deep state.

 

[Moses_Young]

I do not listen to mainstream media news.

I listen to snippets sometimes, to understand what lies the masses are being told. For example, exposure of the political allegiance to Israel of 8 architects of a recent (failed) constitutional change to convert Australia to Communism has been incorrectly described by the purported Prime Minister as anti-Semitism. Race and religion had nothing to do with it - only the fact that the architects behind the Communist agenda were all dual-citizens of Israel.

 

[ZNP]

I listen to snippets sometimes, to understand what lies the masses are being told.

Morning Joe gives you the talking points of the Deep State

 

[ZNP]

The fact that we have a massive battle taking place in the US government and we are on the verge of the collapse of the US dollar is not coincidental to the war breaking out in Israel and Biden giving $80 billion worth of arms to the Taliban. The enemy is within the gates, not just in Israel but also in the US. This is WW3 and it began with a bioweapon which is the Chinese playbook.

I do not fully agree with the link I posted in post 1092 but I think it is important to keep an open mind to those with opposing views.

He thinks that Psalm 83 is a reference to Armageddon, I think Armageddon is described in three stages and this is stage 1, this leads to Damascus becoming a ruinous heap and the rapture. Then that leads to stage 2 -- Ezekiel 38 and that in turn leads to the start of the seven year tribulation which concludes with Armageddon.

WW2 was a seven year war, I think WW3 will also be a 7 year war.

 

[Mem]

There was Shem, Japheth, and Ham, and it just seems a peculiar that Ham is the root of Hamas.

 

[Moses_Young]

The fact that we have a massive battle taking place in the US government and we are on the verge of the collapse of the US dollar is not coincidental to the war breaking out in Israel and Biden giving $80 billion worth of arms to the Taliban. The enemy is within the gates, not just in Israel but also in the US. This is WW3 and it began with a bioweapon which is the Chinese playbook.

Yeah, it's exposure time across the world. If the Communists were able, they would have fudged the figures to convert Australia to Communism (like they did with Crooked Joe, Castreaudo, etc.) That they didn't win is indication that they're not really in control, and it's some sort of operation to wake people up to their methods.

 

[ZNP]

Yeah, it's exposure time across the world. If the Communists were able, they would have fudged the figures to convert Australia to Communism (like they did with Crooked Joe, Castreaudo, etc.) That they didn't win is indication that they're not really in control, and it's some sort of operation to wake people up to their methods.

The only way we can understand these days is that Satan is being exposed, brought out into the light, men's hearts are being exposed, and everyone is being given an ultimatum to repent and turn to Jesus.

 

[Moses_Young]

The only way we can understand these days is that Satan is being exposed, brought out into the light, men's hearts are being exposed, and everyone is being given an ultimatum to repent and turn to Jesus.

I think it's more sinister than that. I think it's to present a false light, in order to deceive many. Anti-Christ - instead of Christ. Still interested in HeIsHere's thoughts, though, 'cause I like his perspective.

 

[ZNP]

I think it's more sinister than that. I think it's to present a false light, in order to deceive many. Anti-Christ - instead of Christ. Still interested in HeIsHere's thoughts, though, 'cause I like his perspective.

Those who are deceived are those who are not spending time in the word of God and with the Lord Jesus. It reveals their heart.

 

[Cameron143]

If Israel are supposed to be an example of democracy, I'd sooner take Gaddafi's dictatorship. I don't like (extremist) Muslims, and violently disagree with Communists, but compared to Netanyahu, Gaddafi was an honest man.

I'm hoping some of this is just rhetoric. The human suffering on a people who live under autocratic rule is immeasurable. Look at the Palestinians. Their leaders use money to build tunnels and bombs instead of enhancing the lives of its citizens. Much is made of their poverty and how they cannot move. But it is because of their leadership.
Democracies build wealth and opportunity for its citizens. There is freedom of movement. There is a vastly greater quality of life. If you spent 1 day in a country like that, you would worship God for days at His abounding grace toward you upon your return.
I hate the wanton loss of life and devaluing of the image of God in the world. I wish I could wave a wand and have it go away. But until that time comes, a terrible democracy will still far exceed the best of authoritarian regimes.

 

[ZNP]

Future Prophecy of War in Israel 10/18/2023

He is making a big claim that Psalm 83 is referring to Armageddon because turning them to stubble and dispersing them with the whirlwind is what happens then. I view Psalm 83 as mercy, God is giving us a preview of what is about to happen on Armageddon. I watched a 3 minute video made by people in Gaza and I felt that was the perfect "trailer" for the tribulation. It nailed the situation on the head. That is what I think Psalm 83 is. It is the trailer to the movie. Ezekiel 38 is the opening scene of the movie, and Armageddon is the climactic conclusion.

 

[Moses_Young]

I'm hoping some of this is just rhetoric. The human suffering on a people who live under autocratic rule is immeasurable. Look at the Palestinians. Their leaders use money to build tunnels and bombs instead of enhancing the lives of its citizens. Much is made of their poverty and how they cannot move. But it is because of their leadership.
Democracies build wealth and opportunity for its citizens. There is freedom of movement. There is a vastly greater quality of life. If you spent 1 day in a country like that, you would worship God for days at His abounding grace toward you upon your return.
I hate the wanton loss of life and devaluing of the image of God in the world. I wish I could wave a wand and have it go away. But until that time comes, a terrible democracy will still far exceed the best of authoritarian regimes.

I'm saying you can't say Israel is a democracy for Palestinians. And you can't blame Palestinians for their bad leadership when the Israeli government has been instrumental in assassinating or undermining the good Palestinian leaders (similarly you can't blame Americans for Joe Biden when he wasn't elected). It's a sham, and I'm sure the exposure of the criminals will come. It's already admitted Netanyahu was complicit in the stand down of Israel's defenses and therefore the deaths of his own people. When you have a "democracy" like that, it might as well be a dictatorship.

 

[Magenta]

I guess it depends on your local media. I'm used to the Lamestream Media or similarly compromised politicians describing any speech exposing the crimes of Zionists, or even opposing the aims of the same, as "anti-Semitism". The word is certainly used incorrectly from it's etymology.

Perhaps you misunderstand etymology, since it is the study of the origin of words and the way in which their meanings have changed throughout history. Changed. So while Jews and Arabs shared Semitic language, when someone uses the term Semite now, including and perhaps especially in regards to prejudice and hostility against, they are not referring to Arabs as a general people group or Muslims as a religious group, but Jews, whether in a political sense or religious or a people group.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

While I don't disagree with this... in fact support it, I do get mixed thoughts about it.

Islamic military tactics for several decades have included, rather frequently, embedding themselves with civilians and public-use facilities, (hospitals, schools, factories, etc.). It's not new at all.
Hamas has kinda' honed it into a fine art by launching rockets into Israel and using guerrilla style raids on civilians and then pulling back into Gaza or the West Bank and embedding into these areas. Then they blame Israel when they come in fighting and civilians are wounded or killed.
Another thing that Islamists do is they go ununiformed... no way to readily differentiate between active military and civilian. And they do all that on purpose.

I have never condemned Israel for past actions against terrorists.
The people in Gaza live is squalid conditions and face undue hardship at the hands of Israel. That regime is crooked and corrupt and is oppressive to people being used as pawns. Israel does nothing but oppress those people and then this attack, when intellegence could find exactly who was involved in the attack on Israel and handle it without this level of destruction.
The people were prostesting Hamas and Israel couldnt leverage that.

 

[Cameron143]

I'm saying you can't say Israel is a democracy for Palestinians. And you can't blame Palestinians for their bad leadership when the Israeli government has been instrumental in assassinating or undermining the good Palestinian leaders (similarly you can't blame Americans for Joe Biden when he wasn't elected). It's a sham, and I'm sure the exposure of the criminals will come. It's already admitted Netanyahu was complicit in the stand down of Israel's defenses and therefore the deaths of his own people. When you have a "democracy" like that, it might as well be a dictatorship.

I'm not defending either side in my post. I'm explaining that a democracy, in its worst estate, far exceeds authoritarian rule for all those except the rulers. The current estate of the world is replete with evidence.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I'm saying you can't say Israel is a democracy for Palestinians. And you can't blame Palestinians for their bad leadership when the Israeli government has been instrumental in assassinating or undermining the good Palestinian leaders (similarly you can't blame Americans for Joe Biden when he wasn't elected). It's a sham, and I'm sure the exposure of the criminals will come. It's already admitted Netanyahu was complicit in the stand down of Israel's defenses and therefore the deaths of his own people. When you have a "democracy" like that, it might as well be a dictatorship.

excuse me, But Palestine chose to elect Hamas as their leadership.

You can;t blame Israel for Giving the land to palestine, and saying here you go. then they elect a governmant that does not have their best interests at heart and there whole goal in life is to wipe Israel off the map.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Old Testament = Old Covenant, right? New Testament = New Covenant.

Old testament had many time periods

Before the fall

After the fall

After the flood

The choosing of Israel

The law

Up to Christ.

it is far more indepth than just an old and new covenant.

All people of all time have been saved by grace through faith..

 

[HeIsHere]

Disagree 100%

it makes the least sense and takes alot of ignoring scripture..(not taking it literally)

Funny how "This generation" cannot be taken literally in dispensationalism.