Israel Declares War

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HeIsHere said:
Yes I agree, since this is NOT the end times
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Really?
So when ARE the end times?
Are there even end times at all in your view?

Israel being a nation and dry bones coming to life right now in real time have already proven you wrong BTW.
Furthermore, Israel MUST cry out to the Lord BEFORE the SC event. Which they will after 3 1/2 year of devastating tribulation of course.

No Israel.....no Second Coming. Boilerplate Biblical doctrine.
 
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THOUSANDS OF PROTESTERS HAVE SURROUNDED EMBASSIES WORLDWIDE


I am wondering if we are about to see the fulfillment of days of Lot with vicious mobs outside of these embassies?
 
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Magenta said:
When you yourself use the word anti-Semite, are you talking about prejudice against Jews, or prejudice against some other people group? How many times have you heard about anti-Semitism and thought the term referred to someone prejudiced against anyone other than Jews? How many times have you heard about anti-Semitism and found out the term referred to someone prejudiced against anyone other than Jews? I would ask the same of @Moses_Young since he disagreed with the definition of anti-Semitism.
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You'll find most of the time the accusation anti-Semitism is used, it has nothing to do with race or genealogy, and more to do with religion and/or politics. I think you don't want to face the fact that your dictionary (?) definition is wrong, both with the original meaning of the word, and how it has been weaponised for today.
 
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PennEd said:
If that happened, by a legitimate country, it would definitely be terrorism.

But I don’t trust a single thing I see, especially from a leftist group like Amnesty International.

So even if there were video of such a thing happening I wouldn’t trust it on the face of it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it didn’t happen, only, the source is so suspect I wouldn’t believe THEM. They HATE Israel.
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I would add you dismissed their journalism, which I understand I do not agree with their leftist ideology, but since both sides lie it is imperative to examine all the evidence, especially first hand accounts.
 
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Moses_Young said:
You'll find most of the time the accusation anti-Semitism is used, it has nothing to do with race or genealogy, and more to do with religion and/or politics. I think you don't want to face the fact that your dictionary (?) definition is wrong, both with the original meaning of the word, and how it has been weaponised for today.
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@Moses_Young stepping out of the Matrix! :)(y)
 
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Cameron143 said:
There are a number of geopolitical reasons to support Israel. They are the lone democracy in the Middle East and are a great source of intelligence.
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If Israel are supposed to be an example of democracy, I'd sooner take Gaddafi's dictatorship. I don't like (extremist) Muslims, and violently disagree with Communists, but compared to Netanyahu, Gaddafi was an honest man.
 
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Moses_Young said:
You'll find most of the time the accusation anti-Semitism is used, it has nothing to do with race or genealogy, and more to do with religion and/or politics. I think you don't want to face the fact that your dictionary (?) definition is wrong, both with the original meaning of the word, and how it has been weaponised for today.
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I find that when the word Semite is used, whether for or against, it is in reference to Jews.

Despite your claim to the contrary.
 
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Moses_Young said:
If Israel are supposed to be an example of democracy, I'd sooner take Gaddafi's dictatorship. I don't like (extremist) Muslims, and violently disagree with Communists, but compared to Netanyahu, Gaddafi was an honest man.
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What bothers me is the thin veneer of fake righteousness they hide behind and most people cannot see beyond.

Extremists are seen for what they are.
 
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cv5 said:
Really?
So when ARE the end times?
Are there even end times at all in your view?

Israel being a nation and dry bones coming to life right now in real time have already proven you wrong BTW.
Furthermore, Israel MUST cry out to the Lord BEFORE the SC event. Which they will after 3 1/2 year of devastating tribulation of course.

No Israel.....no Second Coming. Boilerplate Biblical doctrine.
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It is actually the "end of the age."

Adopt Convenant Theology it makes a lot more sense.
 
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HeIsHere said:
What bothers me is the thin veneer of fake righteousness they hide behind and most people cannot see beyond.

Extremists are seen for what they are.
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It's insane. It sort of reminds me of Job's foolish friends speaking what was wrong to Job, and when God finally corrected them, Job had to offer a sacrifice for them. But at least they got it wrong about God... This is just a simple issue of blatant evil, and the only thing that is blinding people to the truth is that one of the evil players is wearing a mask and claiming to be the same group as the Old Testament nation God had a covenant with. It's not even a good mask...
 
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HeIsHere said:
It is actually the "end of the age."

Adopt Convenant Theology it makes a lot more sense.
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What Is a Covenant?
A divine covenant (Hebrew, berith; Greek, diatheke) (as distinguished from those made between human parties in the Scriptures) is a God-initiated, binding, living, relationship with blessings and obligations. These words are best translated into English as “covenant” (not testament) because it is a relationship between two living parties, not a legal enactment effected by the death of one party whereby a living party receives a bequest, an important difference.

The essential distinction between the two meanings [covenant and testament] is that in a testament the testator expresses his will as to what shall be done after his death, esp. in respect to his property; the covenant is an agreement between living persons as to what shall be done by them while living. (E. D. Burton, Commentary on Galatians, 497)

To reiterate: a testament is a way or means of conveying an inheritance (usually because of a pre-existing relationship) after the testator’s death (e.g., the reading of a will at a legal bequest). A covenant is a way or means to securing a mutual relationship of blessing and obligations (which entails an inheritance), inaugurated by the covenant-initiator(s), and enjoyed in life (e.g., marriage).

Got it, the land of Israel belongs to the Jews.
 
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Magenta said:
Why would that matter, since they are all -even by your use of the word- all Jews?
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The accusation of anti-Semitic would only apply to genealogy. That's why it matters. Semitism (or Anti-Semitism) has nothing to do with religion or politics. And yet politics is primarily the accusation it is applied to.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Old Testament = Old Covenant, right? New Testament = New Covenant.
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not quite, covenant is a legal document and a testament is a legal document, but the words convey different meanings.

A testament only has force when the testator dies, a covenant is in force when both parties are alive.
 
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ZNP said:
not quite, covenant is a legal document and a testament is a legal document, but the words convey different meanings.

A testament only has force when the testator dies, a covenant is in force when both parties are alive.
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But in our case, both would apply, as we enter into covenant with the One who died for us by His blood, and yet rose again?
 
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Moses_Young said:
The accusation of anti-Semitic would only apply to genealogy. That's why it matters. Semitism (or Anti-Semitism) has nothing to do with religion or politics. And yet politics is primarily the accusation it is applied to.
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But we are not talking about only anti Semitism. When someone uses the term Semite, they are referring to Jews.
 
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