this is the Copy that Jerome claimed to have seen, copied from the Matthew in the Hebrew/Aramaic Language. It also Verifies the claim made by several, but first was Papias: "Matthew set the Oracles in order in the Hebrew dialect,” “and each interpreted them as best he could”If we're going to use other languages intermingled with the English let's be thorough...
I say to you, that you are petros (a pebble), and upon this te petra (the boulder) I shall build My church
So how does this refute Peter having special authority, which is passed down to his successors? Isiah 22 talks about a steward getting keys and according to tradition of that time, those keys would be passed down to his successor.
Show me how different these words spoken to the other disciples is any different that what Jesus said to Peter:So how does this refute Peter having special authority, which is passed down to his successors? Isiah 22 talks about a steward getting keys and according to tradition of that time, those keys would be passed down to his successor.
Hook, line, and sinker! .that doesn't disprove the physical authority of the Catholic church or Papal succession.
Religious folks are the most obstinate.Hook, line, and sinker! .![]()
And in the most denial...Religious folks are the most obstinate.
i will research that. very interesting.Mathew 16:19 parallels with Isiah 22 where a king gives keys to his stewart. Those keys are passed down to his successors.
A study concluded that no part of the relic known as the chair of Saint Peter dated earlier than theRoman papists sit in the seat of Peter, therefore they are the true church, just like Pharasees who
sat in the seat of Moses were the true synagogue (before Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven).
Sure I'm religious. I help widows and orphans.Interesting so you admit to being religious?
Do you know what being religious is? it's not a good thing.Sure I'm religious. I help widows and orphans.
Cameron's sense of humour is all encompassing .Do you know what being religious is? it's not a good thing.
Do you know what true religion is?Do you know what being religious is? it's not a good thing.
It is a direct and focused heart on Jesus Christ himself that is it no if and or but.Do you know what true religion is?
I was thinking about James 1:27.It is a direct and focused heart on Jesus Christ himself that is it no if and or but.
Reigous you say you help religion is the tradition and core foundations of a god or idol to worship and serve. But it is a practical practice it is more about the serving the study the physical requirements.
But God is spirit and what you call religion and being religious is not what he is saying to us.
The true essence is Jesus Christ himself not us being religious or having a religion it is him and only him without him your service your prayers your understanding will fail when tested against him.
Religion is man the spirit of God does not live in the confines of religion no structure no design create by man with their understanding of his word can contain him or the true truth of what you call religion
Forget being religious throw away religion go to him directly in person and let him show you the way because religion has nothing to do with him your beliefs your understanding your doctrine your serving all of it is nothing because that is your perspective your understanding your serving but it is him not you
To truly experience and know him and be taught by him personally what HE says of all this go before his throne kneel and be absolute in your resolve for the truth the real truth surrender to him with every thing in you if in return he would show and teach you personally.
Yes this is a true verse and it lead me to study a bit more on the term religion.I was thinking about James 1:27.
That's debatable. There is one other user on here who claims it was Hebrew.the scripture God gave us happens to be in Greek.
That's talking about prayer. I'm talking about who if anyone has the authority to lead the physical church. Also, I agree that all disciples had the power to bind and loose, but only Peter got the special keys.Show me how different these words spoken to the other disciples is any different that what Jesus said to Peter:
Matthew 18:15-20 (ASV)
[15] And if thy brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault between thee and him alone: if he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. [16] But if he hear thee not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or three every word may be established. [17] And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the publican. [18] Verily I say unto you, what things soever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and what things soever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [19] Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father who is in heaven. [20] For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.