Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?
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this is the Copy that Jerome claimed to have seen, copied from the Matthew in the Hebrew/Aramaic Language. It also Verifies the claim made by several, but first was Papias: "Matthew set the Oracles in order in the Hebrew dialect,” “and each interpreted them as best he could”
you are free to use what Language to English Version you so choose, for the Gospel of Matthew. it still remains secondary to Matthew's true Original Hebrew Version, (before the Greek), now translated to English. plus, according to Papias, the translated Versions is {{a as best he could translated, Version}}.
you are free to use what Language to English Version you so choose, for the Gospel of Matthew. it still remains secondary to Matthew's true Original Hebrew Version, (before the Greek), now translated to English. plus, according to Papias, the translated Versions is {{a as best he could translated, Version}}.
Show me how different these words spoken to the other disciples is any different that what Jesus said to Peter:
Matthew 18:15-20 (ASV)
[15] And if thy brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault between thee and him alone: if he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. [16] But if he hear thee not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or three every word may be established. [17] And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the publican. [18] Verily I say unto you, what things soever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and what things soever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [19] Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father who is in heaven. [20] For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matthew 18:15-20 (ASV)
[15] And if thy brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault between thee and him alone: if he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. [16] But if he hear thee not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or three every word may be established. [17] And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the publican. [18] Verily I say unto you, what things soever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and what things soever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [19] Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father who is in heaven. [20] For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
i will research that. very interesting.
but all i am saying is look at the conversation with Jesus and the Disciples.
1. He asks them, who do they think Jesus is
2. Peter answers correctly by also revealing the True Identity of Jesus.
3. God is Building His Church upon the [[Truth]] that was revealed to Peter from the Father.
4. God is giving Them Power to Bind/Loose and what they choose will be also done in Heaven.
5. He instructs Them to keep the True Identity of Christ a secret.
i am Pentecostal.
independent actually, but my Beliefs follow closer to that along with much of my Baptist upbringing.
i've seen good and bad things.
but never have witnessed anyone truly being able to Bind or Loose.
even Michael, he did not try none of that, he just said, like I do [after understanding this Point]...Satan, the LORD Rebuke You!
so, since there's no hardcore Evidence in the past 1500 years, of People, being able to Loose and Bind, Matthew 16, has to be specific to the Disciples.
but all i am saying is look at the conversation with Jesus and the Disciples.
1. He asks them, who do they think Jesus is
2. Peter answers correctly by also revealing the True Identity of Jesus.
3. God is Building His Church upon the [[Truth]] that was revealed to Peter from the Father.
4. God is giving Them Power to Bind/Loose and what they choose will be also done in Heaven.
5. He instructs Them to keep the True Identity of Christ a secret.
i am Pentecostal.
independent actually, but my Beliefs follow closer to that along with much of my Baptist upbringing.
i've seen good and bad things.
but never have witnessed anyone truly being able to Bind or Loose.
even Michael, he did not try none of that, he just said, like I do [after understanding this Point]...Satan, the LORD Rebuke You!
so, since there's no hardcore Evidence in the past 1500 years, of People, being able to Loose and Bind, Matthew 16, has to be specific to the Disciples.
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A study concluded that no part of the relic known as the chair of Saint Peter dated earlier than the
sixth century. It is doubtful anyone actually sits in it. The pope is said to sit in the seat of Peter to
declare an ex cathedra dogma, of which only two have been proclaimed, both having to do with Mary.
Rather odd. Christianity is about Jesus, not Mary. Any ways, both dogmas are believed to be infallible,
despite the fact that neither one can be backed in any way by Scripture, and actually go against what
factually transpired in Mary's lifetime, and what Jesus and Scripture had/have to say on the matter.
sixth century. It is doubtful anyone actually sits in it. The pope is said to sit in the seat of Peter to
declare an ex cathedra dogma, of which only two have been proclaimed, both having to do with Mary.
Rather odd. Christianity is about Jesus, not Mary. Any ways, both dogmas are believed to be infallible,
despite the fact that neither one can be backed in any way by Scripture, and actually go against what
factually transpired in Mary's lifetime, and what Jesus and Scripture had/have to say on the matter.
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It is a direct and focused heart on Jesus Christ himself that is it no if and or but.
Reigous you say you help religion is the tradition and core foundations of a god or idol to worship and serve. But it is a practical practice it is more about the serving the study the physical requirements.
But God is spirit and what you call religion and being religious is not what he is saying to us.
The true essence is Jesus Christ himself not us being religious or having a religion it is him and only him without him your service your prayers your understanding will fail when tested against him.
Religion is man the spirit of God does not live in the confines of religion no structure no design create by man with their understanding of his word can contain him or the true truth of what you call religion
Forget being religious throw away religion go to him directly in person and let him show you the way because religion has nothing to do with him your beliefs your understanding your doctrine your serving all of it is nothing because that is your perspective your understanding your serving but it is him not you
To truly experience and know him and be taught by him personally what HE says of all this go before his throne kneel and be absolute in your resolve for the truth the real truth surrender to him with every thing in you if in return he would show and teach you personally.
Reigous you say you help religion is the tradition and core foundations of a god or idol to worship and serve. But it is a practical practice it is more about the serving the study the physical requirements.
But God is spirit and what you call religion and being religious is not what he is saying to us.
The true essence is Jesus Christ himself not us being religious or having a religion it is him and only him without him your service your prayers your understanding will fail when tested against him.
Religion is man the spirit of God does not live in the confines of religion no structure no design create by man with their understanding of his word can contain him or the true truth of what you call religion
Forget being religious throw away religion go to him directly in person and let him show you the way because religion has nothing to do with him your beliefs your understanding your doctrine your serving all of it is nothing because that is your perspective your understanding your serving but it is him not you
To truly experience and know him and be taught by him personally what HE says of all this go before his throne kneel and be absolute in your resolve for the truth the real truth surrender to him with every thing in you if in return he would show and teach you personally.
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Yes this is a true verse and it lead me to study a bit more on the term religion.
It was written in greek so I searched for it .
James seems to be criticizing Christians who engage in the liturgical acts of worship directed toward God but who neglect acts of charity directed toward love of neighbor, such as care for widows
So in sense what your refering to is this however being religious seems to have taken a bad name because I admit I thought of it as many but if the spirit aspect is there and the the rreligious aspect is there you could liken it the spirit of God in you and the religious aspect is basically acting out what he calls to do.
Kind of like the works vs faith thing but faith is what causes the works.
So actually I was wrong and I learned a lot from it
It was written in greek so I searched for it .
James seems to be criticizing Christians who engage in the liturgical acts of worship directed toward God but who neglect acts of charity directed toward love of neighbor, such as care for widows
So in sense what your refering to is this however being religious seems to have taken a bad name because I admit I thought of it as many but if the spirit aspect is there and the the rreligious aspect is there you could liken it the spirit of God in you and the religious aspect is basically acting out what he calls to do.
Kind of like the works vs faith thing but faith is what causes the works.
So actually I was wrong and I learned a lot from it
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