Israel Declares War

[Cameron143]

It can be occupied by the UN Peace Keepers a neutral party or some other group.

South Africa was a mess too, returning self-determination to the people brought some measure of stability.

I asked for your solution on a couple of occasions. This was never proffered. I asked because I was trying to see if you had a reasonable way forward. Regardless of which side an individual more closely identifies with, what exists currently has to worked with.

 

[HeIsHere]

I asked for your solution on a couple of occasions. This was never proffered. I asked because I was trying to see if you had a reasonable way forward. Regardless of which side an individual more closely identifies with, what exists currently has to worked with.

I always like it when people set up the "answer they want" so they then can determine one has failed, my children did that on

occasion, then I taught them how to have a respectful conversation devoid of setting things up so then they can say "see you failed to

deliver."

 

[Smoke]

No. I would execute all terrorists, but I would also execute all war criminals. When soldiers murder the family members of innocent people, and a government just looks on and smiles or blinks, that creates more terrorists, as it's natural for the family members to want to seek justice. However, if the government put those soldiers on trial, and if found guilty, they were executed for their crimes, the aggrieved family members wouldn't seek justice against the government - they would know that evil men killed their family, but the government did its job and held the evil-doers to account. Letting terrorists and war criminals get away just creates more war criminals and terrorists. Somebody profits, but at incredible cost to innocent people, justice and the world. I believe that was one of the reasons why God was so strict not to let murderers go free.

Absolutely agree. When we refuse to validate the atrocities committed on the Palestinian people, we help create further resentment. Satan uses these negative feelings and seduce the victims to do things they would not ordinarily do. This doesn't justify their actions, but it does explain them to some degree. "Hurt people, hurt people."

 

[Magenta]

Taking anything out of context is never good.

Maybe you should stop doing it, then...

 

[shittim]

Absolutely agree. When we refuse to validate the atrocities committed on the Palestinian people, we help create further resentment. Satan uses these negative feelings and seduce the victims to do things they would not ordinarily do. This doesn't justify their actions, but it does explain them to some degree. "Hurt people, hurt people."

In Christ there is no Palestinian nor Jew, when both become His there will be no satan worshiping terrorists or islame anymore.
Blessings

 

[Cameron143]

I always like it when people set up the "answer they want" so they then can determine one has failed, my children did that on

occasion, then I taught them how to have a respectful conversation devoid of setting things up so then they can say "see you failed to

deliver."

Not what I was doing at all. Many people have opinions on a variety of topics and don't have solutions. I was attempting to see which camp you were in. I have no interest in "getting" anyone. I'm attempting to understand the underlying reasons for people's ideas.

 

[HeIsHere]

@Smoke

Not able to post on your profile, perhaps it is your settings?

 

[Cameron143]

In Christ there is no Palestinian nor Jew, when both become His there will be no satan worshiping terrorists or islame anymore.
Blessings

I get that. How do we get to that point?

 

[Smoke]

It is an interpretation of scripture, I'd rather consider that then look at all the spouting of everyones opinions.

Aren't people's "opinions" based on their interpretation too?

 

[ZNP]

I get that. How do we get to that point?

The Bible lays out a 7 year plan.

 

[ZNP]

Aren't people's "opinions" based on their interpretation too?

Sometimes, go ahead a link your opinion to the scripture. Once it gets disconnected it is like a balloon where you let go of the string.

For example "pray for the peace of Israel" does not mean that Israel is righteous, holy, or faithful. We are told that grace and peace comes to us from our faith in Jesus. So I could interpret that as meaning "pray that Israel turns to Jesus".

But some think that Israel can do no wrong and think that is a Biblical opinion. That is why I posted on Isaiah to point out that Israel most definitely can do wrong and until they deal with that they will never have peace.

 

[Cameron143]

The Bible lays out a 7 year plan.

And you believe that's what is happening now?

 

[ZNP]

And you believe that's what is happening now?

I believe we are on the outside of the 7 years peering in. I think that the 70th week for Israel would begin with them when they sacrifice the red heifer.

Right now I think we are in the Psalm 83 war. I also believe that they will clear out Gaza and reduce Damascus to rubble shortly (Isaiah 17) and this will elicit a response against the US that will completely remove us as a superpower or even a factor in the tribulation. That in turn will open the way for the Ezekiel 38 war which will be even bigger, again they will lose and be put to shame and so that will ultimately lead to Armageddon and all the nations.

This is a best guess and not some prophetic word, simply trying to put the puzzle pieces together.

 

[Ted01]

Aren't people's "opinions" based on their interpretation too?

And their interpretations are based on their opinions/perceptions.

 

[ZNP]

And their interpretations are based on their opinions/perceptions.

That is what they claim, let's see the verses that they think they are basing it on and we can judge. This discussion began when Locopony said a link I had posted comparing the current situation to Esther was a twisting of scripture. I said I'd rather see someone interpreting scripture than just spouting their opinion.

If your opinion is based on the Bible by all means, give us the link and we can discern for ourselves.

 

[Cameron143]

I believe we are on the outside of the 7 years peering in. I think that the 70th week for Israel would begin with them when they sacrifice the red heifer.

Right now I think we are in the Psalm 83 war. I also believe that they will clear out Gaza and reduce Damascus to rubble shortly (Isaiah 17) and this will elicit a response against the US that will completely remove us as a superpower or even a factor in the tribulation. That in turn will open the way for the Ezekiel 38 war which will be even bigger, again they will lose and be put to shame and so that will ultimately lead to Armageddon and all the nations.

This is a best guess and not some prophetic word, simply trying to put the puzzle pieces together.

I appreciate you sharing.

 

[HeIsHere]

 

[ZNP]

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Utterly destroyed? They were completely destroyed without qualification? If that were the case then why do we have Israel today?

In 70AD they were "seemingly destroyed" to all but the one who has the power of resurrection.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I've just listened to this sermon about Israel and the current war against them. it's very informative and inspiring!

-=<* War In Israel Is A Sign Of The End Of The Age *>=-

🍄

 

[HeIsHere]

Utterly destroyed? They were completely destroyed without qualification? If that were the case then why do we have Israel today?

In 70AD they were "seemingly destroyed" to all but the one who has the power of resurrection.

Good question.
Sources vary as to how many survived by the end of the third revolt.

I think he means as a group not individually.