Israel Declares War

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ZNP

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Broad sweeping assertions like this incite hatred. Sad

Approximately 1 percent of the Jewish residents, about 4,000 to 5,000 Jews, of that territory were murdered by these regimes during this period. The relatively small percentage of Jewish casualties, as compared to the 60 percent of European Jews who were murdered during the Holocaust, is largely due to the successful Allied North African Campaign and the repelling of the Axis powers from North Africa.[1]
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Iraqi prime minister collaborated with Hitler. They shared contempt, propaganda, collaboration and even emulated one another in their shared enemy of Zionism. The Nazi's official line towards Arabs were that they were "an inferior race" but privately Hitler and Himmler expressed warm admiration for the Arabs and Islam as a religion.

A student of al-Arsuzi, Sami al-Jundi, wrote:

We were racialists, admiring Nazism, reading its books and the source of its thought, particularly Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Fichte's Addresses to the German Nation, and H. S. Chamberlain's The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, which revolves on race.[35] We were the first to think of translating Mein Kampf. Whoever has lived during this period in Damascus will appreciate the inclination of the Arab people to Nazism, for Nazism was the power which could serve as its champion, and he who is defeated will by nature love the victor. But our belief was rather different.[36]
(Taken from Wikipedia)
 

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My son who has been lecturing me on BLM propaganda how the entire US is guilty for what 1% of the country did 200 years ago tried to then lecture me on how all of Gaza is innocent except for the few Hamas members. I pointed out the hypocrisy of these two positions and we will see how he responds.
 

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Sorry this is an emotional rant.

I am trying to bring balance to this nightmare because the truth is both sides have had their share in atrocities.

“The attackers came at dawn, quickly occupying the town. The men were separated from the women and shot. One of the attackers, opening the door of one of the homes, found an old man standing there. He shot him. ‘He enjoyed shooting him,’ an eyewitness to the attack said afterwards.
Soon the town was empty—the entire population of 5,000 had either been killed or expelled, those who survived put on trucks, and driven to Gaza. The empty homes were looted. ‘We were very happy,’ one of the participants said afterwards. ‘If you don’t take it, someone else will. You don’t feel you have to give it back. They were not coming back.’”
The recollections of Yaakov Sharett, the son of Moshe Sharett, one of the fathers of Israel, a signatory to Israel’s Declaration of Independence, and Israel’s first Foreign Minister, and second Prime Minister. Yaakov Sharett was recounting the seizure of the Arab town of Bersheeba, in 1948, by Israeli soldiers, during Israel’s War of Independence.




This person believes Jews in Israel is immoral. We're going to trust what he says over what history says, over what facts say. Got it. Makes perfect sense.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/former-prime-minister-s-son-says-israel-was-born-in-sin-50092
 

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I believe there is a wider plan with respect to the recent false flag attack on Israel, and that the wider plan does involve an internal attack on the US. This is more a warning, in my view, but to look at this as Israel/US right, Palestine/everyone else wrong is grossly oversimplified. I know there are lots of fake news stories around, but I believe the one about the attack on the inside is accurate - I suspect it might be sooner, but before the next US election in 2024 (which might not happen). This theory also aligns with the influx of illegal, military-age, male refugees all over the place. Real refugees fleeing a war take their wives and families. Soldiers going to war do not.

I suspect the agenda is loosely around enemies taking the US from within, and the US in turn asking the UN to save them (in effect, trading its "freedom" for security).
There is a lot more going on here for sure, more division and hatred.

Yes I agree the initial attack is true apart from babies being beheaded, completely unverified.

Yet tell me why once Netanyahu is in office (war monger who derailed peace initiatives) all of a sudden their protective dome fails.

The political elite are itching for all out war.

The Cabal of Choas must be proud.
That Christians are a part of it is sickening.
 

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The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Iraqi prime minister collaborated with Hitler. They shared contempt, propaganda, collaboration and even emulated one another in their shared enemy of Zionism. The Nazi's official line towards Arabs were that they were "an inferior race" but privately Hitler and Himmler expressed warm admiration for the Arabs and Islam as a religion.

A student of al-Arsuzi, Sami al-Jundi, wrote:

We were racialists, admiring Nazism, reading its books and the source of its thought, particularly Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Fichte's Addresses to the German Nation, and H. S. Chamberlain's The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, which revolves on race.[35] We were the first to think of translating Mein Kampf. Whoever has lived during this period in Damascus will appreciate the inclination of the Arab people to Nazism, for Nazism was the power which could serve as its champion, and he who is defeated will by nature love the victor. But our belief was rather different.[36]
(Taken from Wikipedia)

Well we know what the Koran says and it sure isn't "love the Jews". smh
 

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Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME. Map has already been shared. No one can answer why they cannot have that homeland.
I answered. Palestinians are puppets. Wealthy Arab nations pay all their taxes for their government, the government serves their interests not the interests of the Palestinians, and their interests are a more subtle version of Hitler's view. They have plenty of land they could give them but they do not want a successful, prosperous Israel in the Middle East as a contrast to their regimes. So they pay for war and terrorism.
 

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This person believes Jews in Israel is immoral. We're going to trust what he says over what history says, over what facts say. Got it. Makes perfect sense.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/former-prime-minister-s-son-says-israel-was-born-in-sin-50092
I trust scripture first and foremost, it is clear and consistent, God brought an end to chosen status in 70 AD. They rejected the Saviour.
It is that simple.

Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children.
 
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There is a lot more going on here for sure, more division and hatred.

Yes I agree the initial attack is true apart from babies being beheaded, completely unverified.

Yet tell me why once Netanyahu is in office (war monger who derailed peace initiatives) all of a sudden their protective dome fails.

The political elite are itching for all out war.

The Cabal of Choas must be proud.
That Christians are a part of it is sickening.
I was reading about this, and understand a large fraction of the Israeli population is dissatisfied with Netenyahu. Apparently, the discontent was reaching high levels, and there was a protest planned against the government the same day as the (convenient) timing of the false flag attacks. It seems like a lot of Israelis are also wise to the fact that their so-called leaders would sacrifice the lives of their people (not to mention innocent Palestinian civilians and children) for wealth and power (and another needless war).
 

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I answered. Palestinians are puppets. Wealthy Arab nations pay all their taxes for their government, the government serves their interests not the interests of the Palestinians, and their interests are a more subtle version of Hitler's view. They have plenty of land they could give them but they do not want a successful, prosperous Israel in the Middle East as a contrast to their regimes. So they pay for war and terrorism.
Yes, I'm sorry I did see that and you nailed it, head on.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I trust scripture first and foremost, it is clear and consistent, God brought an end to chosen status in 70 AD. They rejected the Saviour.
It is that simple.

Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children.

An unconditional eternal covenant is just that. No one can explain that one point away. If anyone can, I'd consider it. Romans says Jews have been blinded for a time. But they will accept Christ one day. If we trust Scripture the Jews have even more right to the land, and more of it.
 

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I answered. Palestinians are puppets. Wealthy Arab nations pay all their taxes for their government, the government serves their interests not the interests of the Palestinians, and their interests are a more subtle version of Hitler's view. They have plenty of land they could give them but they do not want a successful, prosperous Israel in the Middle East as a contrast to their regimes. So they pay for war and terrorism.
Israel bought and paid for by the Rothchilds, so there is that.
 

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I answered. Palestinians are puppets. Wealthy Arab nations pay all their taxes for their government, the government serves their interests not the interests of the Palestinians, and their interests are a more subtle version of Hitler's view. They have plenty of land they could give them but they do not want a successful, prosperous Israel in the Middle East as a contrast to their regimes. So they pay for war and terrorism.
From the original Hamas charter: “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it just as
it obliterated others before it ... The day of judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews and kill them.”
 

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The religion of Islam is quite barbaric, but is this relevant? It's still no justification by practicing similar barbarism and murdering civilians.

Yes it's relevant and the civilians have been given time to get out. So they aren't murdering innocent people. How many wars do you know where people are given a heads up to get out of town?? The Israeli people weren't given that chance. And if you can't stand the Jews at least feel bad for the American hostages. Starting to sound like Hillary Clinton, what difference does it make now? Are you all kidding me?
 

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I was reading about this, and understand a large fraction of the Israeli population is dissatisfied with Netenyahu. Apparently, the discontent was reaching high levels, and there was a protest planned against the government the same day as the (convenient) timing of the false flag attacks. It seems like a lot of Israelis are also wise to the fact that their so-called leaders would sacrifice the lives of their people (not to mention innocent Palestinian civilians and children) for wealth and power (and another needless war).
Literally no proof of this. BN has never put his people in harms way before. You'd have to be like Hitler to act in that manner.
 
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Yes it's relevant and the civilians have been given time to get out. So they aren't murdering innocent people. How many wars do you know where people are given a heads up to get out of town?? The Israeli people weren't given that chance. And if you can't stand the Jews at least feel bad for the American hostages. Starting to sound like Hillary Clinton, what difference does it make now? Are you all kidding me?
Is it realistic or reasonable to expect around 1 million civilians to evacuate for the sake of a handful of terrorists or combatants? Or to expect so many people to evacuate within a day? Or to expect so many people to evacuate when the last time they did, their homes and property were stolen by the same people calling for them to evacuate? Or to expect so many people to evacuate when they are more likely to be killed evacuating (either by those calling them to evacuate, or those calling on them to stay), than if they stayed put? Empathy is putting yourself in the shoes of others. You might try it for the Palestinians. The request or warning to evacuate is not a reasonable one.
 

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Fulfilled.

Dispensationalism is wrong. Jesus is right.

“You will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth” (Acts 1:8, emphasis added).

“The Lord gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their forefathers, and they took possession of it and settled there” (21:43).Joshua
 

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Is it realistic or reasonable to expect around 1 million civilians to evacuate for the sake of a handful of terrorists or combatants? Or to expect so many people to evacuate within a day? Or to expect so many people to evacuate when the last time they did, their homes and property were stolen by the same people calling for them to evacuate? Or to expect so many people to evacuate when they are more likely to be killed evacuating (either by those calling them to evacuate, or those calling on them to stay), than if they stayed put? Empathy is putting yourself in the shoes of others. You might try it for the Palestinians. The request or warning to evacuate is not a reasonable one.
Agree and half of the population is under 18.