Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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selahsays

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That's not true. As I've said so far - I hate how complicated and archaic KJV is, but unless you can disprove the mathematical formulas encoded in it, they still stand as a potential sign from God.
…but why do we need codes/mathematical formulas to prove that the Word of God, the Bible, is true? We have faith!
 
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i agree, that finding Codes in the Bible, is a lot like an Atheist saying, the Bible was written 2 to 4k years ago. so, whatever they prophesied, should eventually come true in time because things do eventually happen in time. the Bible becomes non legit to them.

now, if there was a CODE, that was paragraphs long and included a Message that has Spiritual Motives, not just random numbers or a single day, month, year, then this would matter.

but who cares about Mohammed and random Numbers?
 

DJT_47

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The people that spend their lives looking hidden messages in the bible, "bible codes", are missing the blatantly obvious message of the bible: to seek and save the lost.
 

Blain

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Recently I came across this video on Youtube where the guy uses software to count number of occurrences of certain words in the bible and the King James version is just FILLED completely with all kinds of secret messages.


I downloaded the software (King James Pure Bible Search) and went to work... so far I found prophet Muhammad's birth and death year:oops:

I looked up all occurrences and variations of the words false, prophet and Ishmaelite. I got 633 occurences in 570 verses.

false|falsely|falsehood
prophet|prophet's|prophets|
ishmaelite|ishmael|ishmael's|ishmaelites

Now I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence/confirmation bias.

The guy's Youtube channel has a lot of other videos with countless other encoded formulas that make it just about impossible to dismiss the whole thing as coincidence or conspiracy.
keep going it is the glory of God to concel but the honor of kings to search out a matter.
God has been well known to hide the deeper things I can even prove to you that his name is written in our dna many do not seek the deeper hidden things the bible and word of God is like an onion or the earths crust it has many layers this interest you found is not a coincedence but you also have to find the right people to learn from many claim to discover deeper thing but the spirit is our guide he is the one that if you ask will lead you to the deeper things of God it changes you not because of the knowledge you recieved but because the deeper thing of God will oppose the norm you will go against the flow of mdern day Christiany but the life in you that is that is given the access and connestion to him far surpasses the norm the power of God will leave you stunned unable to move but your smile is glued to your face.

Seek the truth the real truth Jesus Christ himself go to him directly, many say it is common knowledge but they don'y know if I were to tell you that if you that if you invite into your home he would move in? that he would actually appear in the flesh?

When I was ab;e to truly know the fear of the Lord I have a habit of covering myself completely in my covers it is my safe zone where I feel am protected and safe but thiis one time as I did this he appeared in my room I dared not look at him or even move his kingship his prsence was so intense my body was shaking but I was only smiling and said to him I am under your feet.

The fear of the Lord is amazing not scary you can feel his power and authority you body cannot help but treble because the flesh is weak but your spirit makes smile.

He is far deeper and more than what the normal Christians know and I know because he has many times filled my room with his golden spirit you suddenly know him like really know him as if you are in his very heart you won't leave his presence even if the end of the world was seconds away

Many read of him but do they really know him?
 
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the shortest Verse in the Bible is:
Jesus Wept!

second shortest is:
Rejoice Evermore!

what's the Hidden Code, for, "Jesus Wept?"
 

Blain

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The people that spend their lives looking hidden messages in the bible, "bible codes", are missing the blatantly obvious message of the bible: to seek and save the lost.
Do you think the bible is like any other book? this is not a book it is very mouth breathed word of God the message is not obious it is hidden in plain sight the word of God is never obvious it always goes deeper it always had hidden aspects you can;t just simply read it and expect to be revealed to the truth if that were the case then every verse and scripture people post on here in their so caqlled speaking of the truth would have actual affects but no matter what verse you post how many you post how many times have you seeb them change anyones minds they only show scripture to oppose scripture.

That very fact proves we underestimate what the word of God is we use it as we see fit and it never changes anytine we claim to be doctrinal so based on scripture and people post scripture as if that them makes them right and it is aconsyant back and forth
How pwople claim to be so scriptural and so casually use it as if it is not holy and sacride yet use it with no reverence only to battle in debates in the so called name of truth is absolutey dumb

There is so much more hidden in the scriptures but you won't know it or even understand it if the scriptures are just words to you it requires one to seek the deeper truths of God one willing to give up what they believe and knew and accept what he says goes it is that simple but many hold to theor own understanding what they believe to be truth what doctrine they follow and that is why they only see the bare layer why they read scriupture according to their own doctrine believes and thoughts which if you look at all throu all the scriptures has never been how it works
 

Underwhosewings

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I think this code business is such a distraction from the word of God and hearing His voice.
It reminds me of those people who try to tell the future.
God tells us in His word what the future will be.
📖 😊
 

Dino246

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…but why do we need codes/mathematical formulas to prove that the Word of God, the Bible, is true? We have faith!
With respect, faith is for things we can't see, like the certainty of our resurrection. We can see that the word of God is true, by reason of fulfilled prophecy, internal consistency, scientific facts unknowable when they were written, and many other reasons. :)
 

NTNT58

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Your formulas and your King James onlyism are two different things. I don't really care how you arrived at King James onlyism, the idea is ridiculous on its surface. So whether you got there by mathematical formulas or by tossing a coin is irrelevant. The fact is you got there and because of that I'm pretty suspect of your judgment.
Many formulas are only present in KJV, why is that? My judgement (and yours) is irrelevant in light of evidence. So either find a way to disprove the evidence or stop complaining.
 

NTNT58

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They do not "stand" just because you "see" something in them..... they stand only in your mind.
No, they're definitely standing there in the bible whether you chose to hide from them or not, it's up to you. You can come up with a way to disprove it as coincidence or something else, or you can just hide and pretend it's no there.
 

NTNT58

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We have all the "signs" of God that are necessary for spreading the word..... it's called "the Word".... it's complete without secret handshakes and special underwear....
Once you understand the Word of God completely, and find it lacking somewhat, THEN you can go look for some mystical, mysterious, hidden code....
We have billions of people being lead away from Christ because Bible has been corrupted and nobody can prove which version is the word of God.
 

NTNT58

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I already answered your first question. Again, although I know that everything in the KJV is not perfectly translated from either Hebrew or Greek into English, I do trust the underlying texts. Beyond that, I have done extensive Bible comparisons over the years, and, based upon my research, the KJV is by far the best English translation.

As far as your second question is concerned, yes, I do understand the context, but I believe it has a much broader application.
Then what do you say to people who rightfully accuse the Bible of being corrupt?
 

NTNT58

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Thanks for pointing that out. Given that the KJV is known to have errors, it is excluded from consideration.
Great! So which one is the word of God? Do you even know? If not, then thanks for your opinion, please come back if you ever find any useful information on how to answer accusation of corruption against the Bible.
 

NTNT58

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I think this code business is such a distraction from the word of God and hearing His voice.
It reminds me of those people who try to tell the future.
God tells us in His word what the future will be.
📖 😊
How do you answer people who rightfully accuse the Bible of being corrupt?
 

NTNT58

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…but why do we need codes/mathematical formulas to prove that the Word of God, the Bible, is true? We have faith!
I've asked you this before and you never answered... How do you answer someone who accuses the Bible of being corrupt?
 

NTNT58

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i agree, that finding Codes in the Bible, is a lot like an Atheist saying, the Bible was written 2 to 4k years ago. so, whatever they prophesied, should eventually come true in time because things do eventually happen in time. the Bible becomes non legit to them.

now, if there was a CODE, that was paragraphs long and included a Message that has Spiritual Motives, not just random numbers or a single day, month, year, then this would matter.

but who cares about Mohammed and random Numbers?
That's just a thing I found, that has nothing to do with the rest of the formulas in that video. This code is spanning the length of the ENTIRE Bible and it's made of intertwined formulas in a way that only God could make. The Muhammad thing is nothing compared to the rest of it.
 

NTNT58

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The people that spend their lives looking hidden messages in the bible, "bible codes", are missing the blatantly obvious message of the bible: to seek and save the lost.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAVE THE LOST WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH BIBLE VERSION IS TRUE? How are you going to answer the lost and their accusation of the Bible being corrupt?
 

NTNT58

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keep going it is the glory of God to concel but the honor of kings to search out a matter.
God has been well known to hide the deeper things I can even prove to you that his name is written in our dna many do not seek the deeper hidden things the bible and word of God is like an onion or the earths crust it has many layers this interest you found is not a coincedence but you also have to find the right people to learn from many claim to discover deeper thing but the spirit is our guide he is the one that if you ask will lead you to the deeper things of God it changes you not because of the knowledge you recieved but because the deeper thing of God will oppose the norm you will go against the flow of mdern day Christiany but the life in you that is that is given the access and connestion to him far surpasses the norm the power of God will leave you stunned unable to move but your smile is glued to your face.

Seek the truth the real truth Jesus Christ himself go to him directly, many say it is common knowledge but they don'y know if I were to tell you that if you that if you invite into your home he would move in? that he would actually appear in the flesh?

When I was ab;e to truly know the fear of the Lord I have a habit of covering myself completely in my covers it is my safe zone where I feel am protected and safe but thiis one time as I did this he appeared in my room I dared not look at him or even move his kingship his prsence was so intense my body was shaking but I was only smiling and said to him I am under your feet.

The fear of the Lord is amazing not scary you can feel his power and authority you body cannot help but treble because the flesh is weak but your spirit makes smile.

He is far deeper and more than what the normal Christians know and I know because he has many times filled my room with his golden spirit you suddenly know him like really know him as if you are in his very heart you won't leave his presence even if the end of the world was seconds away

Many read of him but do they really know him?
I feel like God called me to minister to atheists because I used to be one and I know all their arguments and their line of thinking, but one thing I still cannot refute is their accusation of the Bible being corrupt. I can share my faith and inspire belief in God. I can provide some proof for Christianity, but the only way I can defend the Bible as inerrant is compare the thousands of different "religions" we have in the world today to thousands of manuscripts of the Bible - they contradict each other, but that doesn't mean there isn't one that is 100% true, we just don't know which one of the manuscripts it is.

Bible corruption is the main reason why billions of people are now Muslim and will soon be majority of the population. Their main argument is Bible is corrupted and Quran is preserved. I can explain ALL apparent contradictions in the Bible, but some of them require nothing short of mental gymnastics.

Should we just throw away the doctrine of inerrancy? Could we say that God inspired the human writers of the Bible, but humans just make mistakes? So the main message of the Bible is God inspired, but the Bible is just full of errors because humans corrupt everything they touch.