Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?
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And what makes you think that is the correct manuscript. Others say this...
God
אֵ֚ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty
brought him
מוֹצִיא֣וֹ (mō·w·ṣî·’ōw)
Verb - Hifil - Participle - masculine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 3318: To go, bring, out, direct and proxim
out of Egypt
מִמִּצְרַ֔יִם (mim·miṣ·ra·yim)
Preposition-m | Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 4714: Egypt -- a son of Ham, also his descendants and their country in Northwest Africa
with strength
כְּתוֹעֲפֹ֥ת (kə·ṯō·w·‘ă·p̄ōṯ)
Preposition-k | Noun - feminine plural construct
Strong's 8443: Weariness, toil, speed
like a wild ox,
רְאֵ֖ם (rə·’êm)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 7214: A wild bull
to devour
יֹאכַ֞ל (yō·ḵal)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 398: To eat
hostile
צָרָ֗יו (ṣā·rāw)
Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 6862: Narrow, a tight place, a pebble, an opponent
nations
גּוֹיִ֣ם (gō·w·yim)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 1471: A foreign nation, a Gentile, a troop of animals, a flight of locusts
and crush
יְגָרֵ֖ם (yə·ḡā·rêm)
Verb - Piel - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1633: To bone, denude, the bones
their bones,
וְעַצְמֹתֵיהֶ֛ם (wə·‘aṣ·mō·ṯê·hem)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - feminine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 6106: A bone, the body, the substance, selfsame
to pierce them
יִמְחָֽץ׃ (yim·ḥāṣ)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 4272: To dash asunder, to crush, smash, violently plunge, to subdue, destroy
with arrows.
וְחִצָּ֥יו (wə·ḥiṣ·ṣāw)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 2671: A piercer, an arrow, a wound, thunderbolt, the shaft of a, spear
God
אֵ֚ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty
brought him
מוֹצִיא֣וֹ (mō·w·ṣî·’ōw)
Verb - Hifil - Participle - masculine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 3318: To go, bring, out, direct and proxim
out of Egypt
מִמִּצְרַ֔יִם (mim·miṣ·ra·yim)
Preposition-m | Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 4714: Egypt -- a son of Ham, also his descendants and their country in Northwest Africa
with strength
כְּתוֹעֲפֹ֥ת (kə·ṯō·w·‘ă·p̄ōṯ)
Preposition-k | Noun - feminine plural construct
Strong's 8443: Weariness, toil, speed
like a wild ox,
רְאֵ֖ם (rə·’êm)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 7214: A wild bull
to devour
יֹאכַ֞ל (yō·ḵal)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 398: To eat
hostile
צָרָ֗יו (ṣā·rāw)
Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 6862: Narrow, a tight place, a pebble, an opponent
nations
גּוֹיִ֣ם (gō·w·yim)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 1471: A foreign nation, a Gentile, a troop of animals, a flight of locusts
and crush
יְגָרֵ֖ם (yə·ḡā·rêm)
Verb - Piel - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1633: To bone, denude, the bones
their bones,
וְעַצְמֹתֵיהֶ֛ם (wə·‘aṣ·mō·ṯê·hem)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - feminine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 6106: A bone, the body, the substance, selfsame
to pierce them
יִמְחָֽץ׃ (yim·ḥāṣ)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 4272: To dash asunder, to crush, smash, violently plunge, to subdue, destroy
with arrows.
וְחִצָּ֥יו (wə·ḥiṣ·ṣāw)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 2671: A piercer, an arrow, a wound, thunderbolt, the shaft of a, spear
because my Version is Hebrew.
your Version is the ungodly Septuagint, that tried to copy the Hebrew and translate it.
but what is WILD HERE, aside from you ACTING like you got a clue, is the Old Testament Greek is Hellenized and New Testament is Koine. they are not even same Greek. and the Hellenized is MYTH GREEK, which is why you got UNICORNS in your Bible and i don't!
your Version is the ungodly Septuagint, that tried to copy the Hebrew and translate it.
but what is WILD HERE, aside from you ACTING like you got a clue, is the Old Testament Greek is Hellenized and New Testament is Koine. they are not even same Greek. and the Hellenized is MYTH GREEK, which is why you got UNICORNS in your Bible and i don't!
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because, yours is a Version of the scholars and theologians and mine comes from being a Jew and having access:
8 God, Who has brought them out of Egypt with the strength of His loftiness He shall consume the nations which are his adversaries, bare their bones and dip His arrows [into their blood]. חאֵ֚ל מֽוֹצִיא֣וֹ מִמִּצְרַ֔יִם כְּתֽוֹעֲפֹ֥ת רְאֵ֖ם ל֑וֹ יֹאכַ֞ל גּוֹיִ֣ם צָרָ֗יו וְעַצְמֹֽתֵיהֶ֛ם יְגָרֵ֖ם וְחִצָּ֥יו יִמְחָֽץ:
8 God, Who has brought them out of Egypt with the strength of His loftiness He shall consume the nations which are his adversaries, bare their bones and dip His arrows [into their blood]. חאֵ֚ל מֽוֹצִיא֣וֹ מִמִּצְרַ֔יִם כְּתֽוֹעֲפֹ֥ת רְאֵ֖ם ל֑וֹ יֹאכַ֞ל גּוֹיִ֣ם צָרָ֗יו וְעַצְמֹֽתֵיהֶ֛ם יְגָרֵ֖ם וְחִצָּ֥יו יִמְחָֽץ:
considering the sofers [scribes] kept record after record, copy after copy, the real Tanakh, can be traced back to theoretically speaking, Moses, when he was given the Torah. even the Vatican has 1 of the 7 that is claimed to be in existence during the time of Christ, and the Rabbi's now prepping for the 3rd Temple are using 1 of the other 6. and those Copies were copied and copied so most Jewish Synagogues Today have access.
Here is what I found on a Jewish library website:
"8 G-d who brought him forth out of Egypt is for him like the lofty horns of the wild-ox; he shall eat up the nations that are his adversaries, and shall break their bones in pieces, and pierce them through with his arrows."
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.or... who brought him,them through with his arrows.
"8 G-d who brought him forth out of Egypt is for him like the lofty horns of the wild-ox; he shall eat up the nations that are his adversaries, and shall break their bones in pieces, and pierce them through with his arrows."
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.or... who brought him,them through with his arrows.
The very idea of parables proves you wrong.
Mathew 13:10-13: And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mathew 13:10-13: And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
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