Israel Declares War

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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Then again America should be punished for Hiroshima and every defense they have done since the country was formed.
Take comfort in the fact that God hasn't let that happen to the US so far. I think those who are opposed to Japan being nuked are either short-sighted or they don't realize that there was more involved in this. Japan had already occupied Korea and some parts of China and they were coming after my own country, the Philippines. Japan was extremely cruel to how they treated the native people of Korea and China, and they were very cruel to my people too (look at the Death March of Bataan).

And Japan wasn't going to stop no matter the polite appeals of other countries. So the nuking had to be done and it is what made Japan stop invading us. If God really thought the nuking was wrong, He would have come after the US at that time. But no, the US won big time and so did Korea and China when the Japanese occupiers left their countries, as well as my own country, the Philippines.

In regard to the future of the US, it is no safer than any other country when the globalists are trying to unify the planet under a one-world government. If it gets bombed, I don't believe it's because we're supposedly so evil (that's Satan and the globalists just trying to kill our fighting spirit) - rather I think it's because we'll be attacked so that we can't help any other countries to remain free.

PS - The globalists are trying to make Russia and China to be the bad guys, but who are the ones who actually make an attempt to fight against the AC in the end times? It's Russia and their satellite nations, and China and the Asian countries.


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ZNP

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OK, "conspiracy Guy," You do not know much about fire. And I have no time for foolishness.
Well I know that the Grenfell fire lasted for 24 hours and that was considered a long time, but trivial compared to the World Trade Center which burned for 100 days. I lived in NYC so I know the fire department was hosing the fire down continuously for those 100 days and even so it burned for 100 days. I know that most building fires get as hot as 100-600 degrees F inside the building, but the WTC fire was 2,000 degrees F inside.

But you are right to say we don't know much about it. The ATF has the most sophisticated and advanced facility for investigating fires. They can replicate the fire that took place on the World Trade Center, just as they have done for all other fires to confirm or debunk theories. We built it to detect arson and exonerate those accused of arson. But for some reason they didn't do any tests for the WTC fire even though 2,000 engineers and architects questioned the official narrative. I had a friend who was very highly placed in the US government and so I asked him about it. He referred me to a paper that MIT put out, in that paper they said 'this was very unlikely, but if the fire did cause the collapse here is the physics that explains it, however, you can find out for real by simply letting the ATF verify if this is true'. I am paraphrasing, but that was what they said. I came back to my friend and told him this doesn't explain it at all, he simply shrugged, he wasn't a scientist so couldn't really understand the paper anyway.
 

ZNP

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I remember watching the movie about JFK being assassinated and the showgirl saying, "if they'll shoot the president do you think they will care about killing me?" Now I realize what we should have understood is "if they will shoot the president do you think they will care about 3,000 people in the WTC?"
 

Nehemiah6

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Entering into a hostile tightly packed city of rubble........ its gonna be full of ambushes, full of resistance from everyone (including women), lots of explosives, lots and lots of danger going in there.
I believe Netanyahu has given fair warning to the Palestinians that all civilians should leave Gaza. Which means that the IDF does not have to physically enter. Bombing Gaza to rubble would be adequate an a proportional response to the recent attack. But there is more to this than meets the eye. Formerly nothing like this could have happened.
 

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As the word of God says it will Yet God's wrath will be poured out. The Temple they build will not House the Spirit of the Lord as it did before.
Whatever the status of God's Spirit therein, the "tribulation temple" is clearly stated to be the "temple of God".

Rev 11:1
Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.
Rev 11:2
“But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.
 

cv5

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Satan is having a field day. You can almost picture him laughing.
That is exactly right. No more dead sons of Adam. That is my position. For this and all wars. Stop. Just stop.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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God was wrong? You want to rephrase that?

I'm asking YOU!! We agree God sent the Jews in and told them to flatten the nation that had been attacking, and sneak attacking the Jews. Finally God said go in and flatten the place. Amalekites were OT day Hamas and God said

" Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

So you tell me, where do you see the difference? That was my question.
 

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I'm asking YOU!! We agree God sent the Jews in and told them to flatten the nation that had been attacking, and sneak attacking the Jews. Finally God said go in and flatten the place. Amalekites were OT day Hamas and God said

" Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

So you tell me, where do you see the difference? That was my question.
God is the judge, how He decides to execute that judgement is up to Him. If He wants to use Babylon, or Assyria, or Israel, or a flood, or fire, it is up to Him.
 

Nehemiah6

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Yeah, sure. "Special Operation" after walking away from Afghanistan and allowing Americans to be killed unnecessarily. Once again you are being fooled by these liars and hypocrites. And why only rescuing American citizens instead of all of Israel? Just more smoke and mirrors. Secretary Austin is a Woke Liar and he has been lying all along. Generally Milley is another Woke traitor. People swallow these lies so easily. No one should believe a word from Biden or any of his officials. They have lied, and lied, and lied every day.
 

PennEd

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I'm asking YOU!! We agree God sent the Jews in and told them to flatten the nation that had been attacking, and sneak attacking the Jews. Finally God said go in and flatten the place. Amalekites were OT day Hamas and God said

" Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

So you tell me, where do you see the difference? That was my question.
I've got my can of worms just begging to be let out!


Those people were Nephilim!
 

ZNP

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I've got my can of worms just begging to be let out!


Those people were Nephilim!
Not only that we are told clearly in Deuteronomy 25 why they were judged as well:
17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt; 18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God. 19 Therefore it shall be, when the Lord thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.

This is an example of "as you have done it will be done unto you". It is total hypocrisy to complain about the judgement on Amalek, God was simply doing unto them as they had done unto Israel.
 

ZNP

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A lot of people are describing the heinous and despicable acts committed in this war by Hamas as monstrous and inhuman. Therefore I think it only fair that we balance that with other news that shows their human side. They sent a thank you card for the $6 billion in rockets to the Whitehouse. Now is that so monstrous?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Not only that we are told clearly in Deuteronomy 25 why they were judged as well:
17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt; 18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God. 19 Therefore it shall be, when the Lord thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.

This is an example of "as you have done it will be done unto you". It is total hypocrisy to complain about the judgement on Amalek, God was simply doing unto them as they had done unto Israel.
Which is what should be done to Hamas!!! Why aren't you getting the correlation?!
 

ZNP

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Which is what should be done to Hamas!!! Why aren't you getting the correlation?!
You are not God, I am not God, this is not your call. Also, the New Testament is different from the Old Testament. Amalek represents the flesh and it was totally annihilated on the cross. All those who refuse to repent of sins and receive Jesus' atoning sacrifice will be dealt with by God during the tribulation. Why aren't you getting that?

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Psalm 58:10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

I am all for righteous judgement, but I am also aware that God is far better at it than I am.

Judgement must begin with the house of God which means my desire for vengeance must be on the cross and like Jesus I must also pray that "God would forgive them for they know not what they do".

Perhaps some do know what they are doing, that is fine, after the others get saved God will judge them.