Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

[NTNT58]

But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

- Mark 13:23 (KJV)

What does that even mean? What does it have to do with the topic, other than backing up what I've said so far? We are talking about the bible here, that's where everything is foretold. Either present a valid argument or go away.

 

[NTNT58]

Gnosticism.

That's not what Gnosticism means.

 

[NTNT58]

Divination is forbidden by God.

That is all.

Look up the definition. Divination is searching for prophecy using supernatural means. I'm using the bible text to look up prophecy, what does that have to do with divination?

 

[NTNT58]

I think there is a distinction between digging deep and divination. God invites one and prohibits the other.

Proverbs 25:2
New King James Version

2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

E.g.

https://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/482/

Look up definition of divination. I'm using bible text, not supernatural means.

 

[NTNT58]

I love this one as well:

Would you expect less from an infinite God?

I think the use of the words “secret messages” in the OP is rather loaded towards Gnosticism…

The Protestant third rule of scripture interpretation is:

“If the Plain Text Makes Perfect Sense, Seek No Other Sense”

Contrast with the ancient Hebrew method: PRDS

P'shat (straight, direct, literal), Remez (hinted-at), D'rash (inquire, seek) and Sod (secret, mysterious).

Within this second view, deeper meanings never contradict the plain meaning.

In what way did I contradict anything in the bible?

 

[Locoponydirtman]

That's not what Gnosticism means.

Oh, then just plain old nonsense.

 

[NTNT58]

In Michael Drosnin's Bible Codes book of 1997, he claimed that historical and future events
were encoded in the Old Testament. The book attracted religious followers among others.
Though he was an an atheist, he firmly believed in the hidden messages. Chuck Missler
penned a similar tome, based on “equidistant letter sequences" aka science of cryptology.
Of Michael's book, wiki says the codes were planted by ETs, whereas Missler says God did it.

A code of equidistant letters buried within the Bible is not a new idea. See Wikipedia for a full
discussion. But with a little computer programming, Drosnin pushes it to the limit. He uncovers
prophecies about Watergate, Hitler, Shakespeare’s writings, Edison’s inventions, the holocaust,
Roosevelt, Kennedy, communism, Armageddon, and, amazingly, the promise of his future book.

It all sounds convincing, until a little experimentation verifies the same probabilistic expectations
in other works of literature. Moby Dick revealed much of the same prophecies and many more. So,
mathematicians turned back to the Bible to see what else they could learn by using the software.
Several more startling prophecies surfaced: “Code is bunk.” “Drosnin Fraud.” “Darwin was right.” source

Equidistant sequencing is something completely different than what I'm talking about there. You can come up with just about any message using it. But here, you can't. Very few specific words are used to come up with numbers directly associated with those words.

What are the odds of the odd books of the bible having Jesus mentioned 70*7 times and even books also 70*7 times. Peter denying Christ in the 980th verse of the gospels (70*7+70*7), sin+forgiven 70*7 mentions, and hundreds of other equations that are in the bible, are they all coincidence? Do you think this is some sort of conspiracy by the human writers of the bible?

 

[NTNT58]

Oh, then just plain old nonsense.

Prove it then

 

[NTNT58]

I agree the Bible is unique and inspired by God; but this guy is pushing a gimmick to make people think the KJV is the Bible. Nothing but smoke and mirrors here.

Are you saying those equations are just a coincidence or do you believe this is some sort of conspiracy by the writers of King James Bible?

 

[Magenta]

Do you think this is some sort of conspiracy by the human writers of the bible?

No.

 

[NTNT58]

Here are the links to some of the best formulas found in King James version, while many are not found in other bible versions. How does this NOT prove KJV is God inspired? Are these all coincidence or human conspiracy?

https://www.figma.com/file/K29umM05...on-of-God?type=design&node-id=0-1&mode=design
https://www.figma.com/file/yuKZEmKT...-Bible?type=design&node-id=34-317&mode=design

 

[Godsgirl1983]

Yes, I disagree with your notion that Christians should not be heard. Spreading the gospel is commanded in the bible. So yes, you're wrong.

Well then you missed the entire point behind that post.
Talk to be heard all you want but remember that actions speak louder than words.
Unfortunately, there are too many "Christians" walking about whose actions don't line up with what they are saying.

 

[Cameron143]

I found a pearl hidden in a field.

 

[Magenta]

I found a pearl hidden in a field.

Did you hide it again, and then joyfully sell all you had to buy that field? .

 

[NTNT58]

Well then you missed the entire point behind that post.
Talk to be heard all you want but remember that actions speak louder than words.
Unfortunately, there are too many "Christians" walking about whose actions don't line up with what they are saying.

Well then you missed the entire point behind that post.
Talk to be heard all you want but remember that actions speak louder than words.
Unfortunately, there are too many "Christians" walking about whose actions don't line up with what they are saying.

Oh really? What was your point and what does it have to do with this post? I'm trying to find the truth and bring people to Christ while you're posting stuff that's completely out of context with my post.

 

[Cameron143]

Did you hide it again, and then joyfully sell all you had to buy that field? .

Truthfully, the first time I stumbled across it I didn't know what a pearl was or its value. It's peculiar isn't it? That God who is all desirable, is seldom desired all by us.

 

[NTNT58]

Well then you missed the entire point behind that post.
Talk to be heard all you want but remember that actions speak louder than words.
Unfortunately, there are too many "Christians" walking about whose actions don't line up with what they are saying.

Oh haha, I just got it the other guy basically told me to shut up and you agreed with him using your song. And now you're preaching about actions lining up with words... YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE are you sure you're even a Christian and not an atheist trolling the board?

I presented an argument backed by facts, either dispute the facts or don't say anything at all... why be rude?

 

[hornetguy]

In that case Daniel used numerology in his prophecy of 70 weeks to predict the first coming of Jesus (Daniel 9:24-27 )

You are obviously confusing numerology with prophecy.

But we were not talking about a specific example in Daniel, were we? We were talking about random "oh, wow, I found a coincidence! It must be prophecy!"

Let's just say you're right, I'm wrong, and you can go celebrate.... it ain't worth the time and effort.

 

[hornetguy]

Oh haha, I just got it the other guy basically told me to shut up and you agreed with him using your song. And now you're preaching about actions lining up with words... YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE are you sure you're even a Christian and not an atheist trolling the board?

I presented an argument backed by facts, either dispute the facts or don't say anything at all... why be rude?

Probably because you are being a jerk about it.... just a guess.
She is not a troll.... you? Jury's still out.

 

[NTNT58]

But we were not talking about a specific example in Daniel, were we? We were talking about random "oh, wow, I found a coincidence! It must be prophecy!"

Let's just say you're right, I'm wrong, and you can go celebrate.... it ain't worth the time and effort.

Does this look like a coincidence to you?
https://www.figma.com/file/K29umM05...on-of-God?type=design&node-id=0-1&mode=design
https://www.figma.com/file/yuKZEmKT...-Bible?type=design&node-id=34-317&mode=design