This is replacement theology. The church has replaced God's physical people Israel. The covenant that God made with Israel is now to the body of Christ. I'm not buying that. God's physical people Israel is going to get their kingdom restored with their promised Messiah sitting on the throne of David ruling over the earth. It's going to happen.
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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]: Point 1, Point 2...
Precious friend, no problem at all sorting all of this out with kind and civil
discussion...
No problem, we see that preaching, at that time, under covenants / law for
Israel, but who, pray tell, preaches "the kingdom of heaven is at hand," with
[ what some 'think is for us ] "Repent, and be baptized for the remission of sins"...
...today, under The New and Different "Dispensation Of The Grace Of God"?
How can "the kingdom be at hand" on earth, for Israel, when their "King is in
exile," seated in Heaven?
Which, btw, is Exactly Where Paul says the 'members Of The Body of Christ,
Are "Seated, With Him, In The Heavenly Places" (Ephesians 1:20, 2:6), being
spiritually Translated Into The Kingdom." We can Certainly "thank The
Father" For It Is He:
However, the same Cannot be said for Israel, and their earthly kingdom,
because of "what Peter preached in the gospel of the kingdom":
The ( earthly ) gospel of the kingdom, for Israel and repentance/baptism
for 'remission' of sins to be "blotted out" at the Second Coming and...
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
Which God Had "Kept Secret since the world began" (Romans 16:25):
...The Gospel of Grace, with forgiveness of sin, and "translation In The
( Heavenly ) Kingdom ( Currently Vested In Christ ), as Paul says 21x:
Now, on to Even Further Clarification, with:
[ K. Lawson ]: Point 3:
The Gospel of the Kingdom centered in the Person of Jesus Christ, that is, Who
He was. That is why the emphasis was always on The Name of Jesus Christ, The
Fact That He was the Christ, The Son of The Living God (Matt. 16:16; John 20:31).
The Gospel of the Grace of God Confirms The Person of Christ but centers in
His Work On The Cross for our Redemption (Rom. 3:24-25; 1 Cor. 1:18; 2:2).
It is [ Very ] significant that the twelve apostles preached the Gospel of the
Kingdom for several years but did not even know that Christ was going
to die, much less what that Death would accomplish for our Redemption
(Luke 9:1-2,6; 18:31-34; Matt. 16:21-23).
Amen.
Precious friend, no problem at all sorting all of this out with kind and civil
discussion...
No problem, we see that preaching, at that time, under covenants / law for
Israel, but who, pray tell, preaches "the kingdom of heaven is at hand," with
[ what some 'think is for us ] "Repent, and be baptized for the remission of sins"...
...today, under The New and Different "Dispensation Of The Grace Of God"?
How can "the kingdom be at hand" on earth, for Israel, when their "King is in
exile," seated in Heaven?
Which, btw, is Exactly Where Paul says the 'members Of The Body of Christ,
Are "Seated, With Him, In The Heavenly Places" (Ephesians 1:20, 2:6), being
spiritually Translated Into The Kingdom." We can Certainly "thank The
Father" For It Is He:
"Who Hath Delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated
us Into The Kingdom of His Dear Son: In Whom we have Redemption
Through His Blood, even the Forgiveness of sins" (Colossians 1:13-14).
Under The Gospel Of Grace, Today, Correct?
However, the same Cannot be said for Israel, and their earthly kingdom,
because of "what Peter preached in the gospel of the kingdom":
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be
blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the
Presence of the Lord;..."
[ We disagree with those allegorizing this as "spiritual" Presence, as this is Physical Presence, 'Same As His First Advent'! ]:
"...And He shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto
you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution
of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy
prophets since the world began." (Acts 3:19-21 cp Matthew 25:34)
[ also compare that to the earthly judgment of "sheep
for entrance Into the kingdom" (Matthew 25:31-40) ]
Thus, there is a Big Difference between:The ( earthly ) gospel of the kingdom, for Israel and repentance/baptism
for 'remission' of sins to be "blotted out" at the Second Coming and...
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
Which God Had "Kept Secret since the world began" (Romans 16:25):
...The Gospel of Grace, with forgiveness of sin, and "translation In The
( Heavenly ) Kingdom ( Currently Vested In Christ ), as Paul says 21x:
↑ "But Now"! ↑
Amen?Now, on to Even Further Clarification, with:
[ K. Lawson ]: Point 3:
The Gospel of the Kingdom centered in the Person of Jesus Christ, that is, Who
He was. That is why the emphasis was always on The Name of Jesus Christ, The
Fact That He was the Christ, The Son of The Living God (Matt. 16:16; John 20:31).
The Gospel of the Grace of God Confirms The Person of Christ but centers in
His Work On The Cross for our Redemption (Rom. 3:24-25; 1 Cor. 1:18; 2:2).
It is [ Very ] significant that the twelve apostles preached the Gospel of the
Kingdom for several years but did not even know that Christ was going
to die, much less what that Death would accomplish for our Redemption
(Luke 9:1-2,6; 18:31-34; Matt. 16:21-23).
Amen.
What kind of a strange comment is that? When Christ spoke those words He was very much on earth. And now that He is seated in Heaven He is definitely not in exile! He has been glorified. So it is obvious that you are listening to and believing false teachers. When Christ said "the kingdom of heaven is at hand what did He really mean? What He meant was that the Kng of that Kingdom was now on earth, and that anyone who put his faith in Him would enter that Kingdom.
Simple direct and 100 percent accurate
And sadly
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:6-9 KJV
about my words but the apostle Paul’s words an apostle and servant of the one and only lord and his one and only gospel sent to every creature of God by the lord himself
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
there is no other gospel gods final word is the gospel he sent to all people i til the end of the world those who hear and believe shall be saved , those who reject the truth won’t be
But always when the word of God is heard this happens
“When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.”
Matthew 13:19 KJV
there’s no other gospel and people should really be careful about spreading those “ other gospels “
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
everyone can know god if they accept the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ like the apostles all did
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
The gospel is then understanding Jesus gave us of the true God
And sadly
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:6-9 KJV
about my words but the apostle Paul’s words an apostle and servant of the one and only lord and his one and only gospel sent to every creature of God by the lord himself
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
there is no other gospel gods final word is the gospel he sent to all people i til the end of the world those who hear and believe shall be saved , those who reject the truth won’t be
But always when the word of God is heard this happens
“When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.”
Matthew 13:19 KJV
there’s no other gospel and people should really be careful about spreading those “ other gospels “
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
everyone can know god if they accept the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ like the apostles all did
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
The gospel is then understanding Jesus gave us of the true God
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Try to dissect the first part of the statement " Christ will reign on the throne of David in Jerusalem and that's the future in his millennial reign with his saints.
The second part- The cross is a mystery. The cross is a symbol of Christ's Suffering, yet the good news is that after his death and burial, He was resurrected! The part of his death that generally Jews were dull of knowing was a prophecy thing and not a mystery thing. Consider the verse from Isah 53:1 was fulfilled in John 12:37-38 and yet Paul also quoted it in Romans 10:16
The second part- The cross is a mystery. The cross is a symbol of Christ's Suffering, yet the good news is that after his death and burial, He was resurrected! The part of his death that generally Jews were dull of knowing was a prophecy thing and not a mystery thing. Consider the verse from Isah 53:1 was fulfilled in John 12:37-38 and yet Paul also quoted it in Romans 10:16
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Comprised of the same people, those saved by His atoning sacrifice and His ressurection.
You teach replacement, because it has never been about race. Its always been about faith. And its evidenced by the number with in the race that perished due to lack of faith and also by the number of outsiders not of the race that were faithful and therefore saved.
You accuse those who say that the church is the true israel of replacement but that is false. It is replacement to replace the faithful with a race of people regardless of faith.
You teach replacement, because it has never been about race. Its always been about faith. And its evidenced by the number with in the race that perished due to lack of faith and also by the number of outsiders not of the race that were faithful and therefore saved.
You accuse those who say that the church is the true israel of replacement but that is false. It is replacement to replace the faithful with a race of people regardless of faith.
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With the coming of Jesus, God fulfilled the covenant with Israel. Jesus is the Promised Messiah. BTW, by establishing the New Covenant, God did not break the first Covenant. The Jews, Israel broke the Covenant when they denied that Jesus WAS the promised Messiah.
Hebrews, Chapter 10
1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
With the coming of Jesus, God fulfilled the covenant with Israel. Jesus is the Promised Messiah. BTW, by establishing the New Covenant, God did not break the first Covenant. The Jews, Israel broke the Covenant when they denied that Jesus WAS the promised Messiah.
Hebrews, Chapter 10
1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
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His covenant with the nation was conditional, His covenant with Abraham was not.
By your teaching God has already broken his promise to Israel, when He allowed the northern kingdom and the tribes there in to become diluted and lost to the world.
I however see the promise for what it actually is, a nation built on faith and the Blood of Christ. Which can not fail which is the promise to Abraham, countless decendants forever. Not limited decendants mostly lost and destroyed.
By your teaching God has already broken his promise to Israel, when He allowed the northern kingdom and the tribes there in to become diluted and lost to the world.
I however see the promise for what it actually is, a nation built on faith and the Blood of Christ. Which can not fail which is the promise to Abraham, countless decendants forever. Not limited decendants mostly lost and destroyed.
Jesus said, "follow Me" and He left the Law at the cross, which we find the way to if we haven't already, and then continue in the new way that opened to us. If you're found lingering on the Law, you've rendered the cross of no effect and have been left behind with it
"Where I go you cannot, but then (after I've made the way) you will..." (paraphrased)
"Where I go you cannot, but then (after I've made the way) you will..." (paraphrased)
op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3...
Point # 4:
The Gospel of the Kingdom required the ordinance of water baptism
along with faith in Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins
(Mark 1:4; 16:16; Acts 2:38).
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
The Gospel of the Grace of God requires only faith in Christ,
the cross and resurrection, for salvation and forgiveness of sins
(Acts 13:38-39; 16:31; 1 Cor. 15:3-4).
Paul refers to this as “my gospel” and refuses all works of righteousness, including circumcision, water baptism, tithing, or any other legalistic requirement (Rom. 3:21,28; 4:5; Gal. 2:16; 3:11; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).
Paul wrote that he was not sent to baptize, but to preach the
gospel (1 Cor. 1:17). But he does speak of a [ ONE ] Baptism where
The Holy Spirit puts us into Christ and His Body:
One drop of water. The Baptism By the Spirit corresponds to the “One Baptism”
that Paul mentioned in Ephesians 4:5 and agrees with the other six unities in
the passage which bring unity in the Church which is His Body.
Amen.
to be continued...
Point # 4:
The Gospel of the Kingdom required the ordinance of water baptism
along with faith in Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins
(Mark 1:4; 16:16; Acts 2:38).
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
The Gospel of the Grace of God requires only faith in Christ,
the cross and resurrection, for salvation and forgiveness of sins
(Acts 13:38-39; 16:31; 1 Cor. 15:3-4).
Paul refers to this as “my gospel” and refuses all works of righteousness, including circumcision, water baptism, tithing, or any other legalistic requirement (Rom. 3:21,28; 4:5; Gal. 2:16; 3:11; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).
Paul wrote that he was not sent to baptize, but to preach the
gospel (1 Cor. 1:17). But he does speak of a [ ONE ] Baptism where
The Holy Spirit puts us into Christ and His Body:
“For by One Spirit are we all baptized into One body, whether
we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have
been all made to drink into One Spirit” (1 Cor. 12:13).
Notice this is a Spiritual Baptism accomplished by God that does not involve One drop of water. The Baptism By the Spirit corresponds to the “One Baptism”
that Paul mentioned in Ephesians 4:5 and agrees with the other six unities in
the passage which bring unity in the Church which is His Body.
Amen.
to be continued...
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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3...
Point # 4:
The Gospel of the Kingdom required the ordinance of water baptism
along with faith in Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins
(Mark 1:4; 16:16; Acts 2:38).
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
The Gospel of the Grace of God requires only faith in Christ,
the cross and resurrection, for salvation and forgiveness of sins
(Acts 13:38-39; 16:31; 1 Cor. 15:3-4).
Paul refers to this as “my gospel” and refuses all works of righteousness,
including circumcision, water baptism, tithing, or any other legalistic
requirement (Rom. 3:21,28; 4:5; Gal. 2:16; 3:11; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).
Paul wrote that he was not sent to baptize, but to preach the
gospel (1 Cor. 1:17). But he does speak of a [ ONE ] Baptism where
The Holy Spirit puts us into Christ and His Body:
One drop of water. The Baptism By the Spirit corresponds to the “One Baptism”
that Paul mentioned in Ephesians 4:5 and agrees with the other six unities in
the passage which bring unity in the Church which is His Body.
Amen.
to be continued...
Point # 4:
The Gospel of the Kingdom required the ordinance of water baptism
along with faith in Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins
(Mark 1:4; 16:16; Acts 2:38).
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
The Gospel of the Grace of God requires only faith in Christ,
the cross and resurrection, for salvation and forgiveness of sins
(Acts 13:38-39; 16:31; 1 Cor. 15:3-4).
Paul refers to this as “my gospel” and refuses all works of righteousness,
including circumcision, water baptism, tithing, or any other legalistic
requirement (Rom. 3:21,28; 4:5; Gal. 2:16; 3:11; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).
Paul wrote that he was not sent to baptize, but to preach the
gospel (1 Cor. 1:17). But he does speak of a [ ONE ] Baptism where
The Holy Spirit puts us into Christ and His Body:
“For by One Spirit are we all baptized into One body, whether
we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have
been all made to drink into One Spirit” (1 Cor. 12:13).
Notice this is a Spiritual Baptism accomplished by God that does not involveOne drop of water. The Baptism By the Spirit corresponds to the “One Baptism”
that Paul mentioned in Ephesians 4:5 and agrees with the other six unities in
the passage which bring unity in the Church which is His Body.
Amen.
to be continued...