Sounds great. I have no evidence. But I don't know what I am looking for.
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i read like hundreds of quick articles before finding my own search. i just stumbled onto it going through the list of Church Fathers and why they are known as such and what did they do, who they know, and what they write about? and then you have evidence for many topics.
I don't accept everything from the church fathers, but I can't remember it. However, I understand that even if there is a difference, there may be things you can glean.
@The_Watchers_2017 Thank you for all of your help, thus far (if there is any more). I have enjoyed discussing with you. Shalom.
Once more, God did not give a lie to Isaiah, and it is a mystery to be understood and belived on faith, for we beliee in things unseen by faith.
Why is Jesus gifted with all the titles of God? You havae not understood the text, but it seems you will answer to anything as you please, not as we are taught by God.
I never said God gave a lie to Isaiah for what I believe to be the first time in recent recollection.
I already learned, and believe, that all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form in Christ.
And John 1:16 says, "From His fullness we have all received grace upon grace."
And Ephesians 3:19 says, "...that you may be filled with all the fullness of God."
There's nothing about me having the fullness of deity anywhere though, but, " so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. Then you, being rooted and grounded in love, (Eph 3:17) will have power, together with all the saints, to comprehend the length and width and height and depth (Eph 3:18) of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with the fullness of God (Eph 3:19)."
The fullness of deity dwells in the Father in what form? And in what form does the fullness of deity dwell in the Holy Spirit?
The crusaders were speaking Latin and/or Greek. this was ~ 1000-1200's
English, Spanish, Portuguese and French spread hundreds of years later when these countries were colonizing all over the world, around 1500-1700's
Jerome AFAIK said there was a copy of a Hebrew gospel in the library of Caesaria, that the Nazarenes used, and he seems to have quoted from it sometimes, because he wrote a few things that aren't in Matthew Mark Luke or John. so the Hebrew gospel Jerome had access to isn't necessarily 'an original Matthew' - he didn't call it that. he called it the gospel of the Hebrews.
and AFAIK there's no copy of whatever he was referring to. there are some fragments of what seems to be a gospel narrative in Hebrew.
great! thank you! the Greek words you gave are the ones we combine in English for the word theology... words about God, in a sense.
since you're familiar with Spanish, and i am, too, let's use a Spanish example. in a Spanish Bible, Jn 1:18 may begin
A Dios nadie no ha visto nunca
or, translation dependent
Nadie ha visto jamás a Dios
my point is, often when translating from one language to another, word order changes. grammar and syntax rules change.
i appreciate you reading this, and i also appreciate your courtesy in this thread.
