I am a Christian who does not accept or follow Christianity.

[selahsays]

For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

- John 3:16 (KJV)

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

- John 3:16 (KJV)

Yes.

 

[Keris]

I believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

I do not believe in spirit beings.

We all do well to ask God to increase whatever revelation we have of Him.
Every one of us should have every interest to know Him more and more deeply in order to worship Him more and more as we live our lives before Him and for Him. After all, He made us so we may know Him and live to love Him and he loved by Him.
🌻

 

[oyster67]

Why do Christians pray in Jesus’ name?

Thats is a good one for all of us to think about.
The Father pointed us to His Son. It is Jesus who we speak of as the lamb that was slain and the Light of the world and our Saviour. Jesus must never, can never, be excised from our prayers and worship.

Luke 9:35
“And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.”

Revelation 5:12
“Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

We all do well to ask God to increase whatever revelation we have of Him.
Every one of us should have every interest to know Him more and more deeply in order to worship Him more and more as we live our lives before Him and for Him. After all, He made us so we may know Him and live to love Him and he loved by Him.
🌻

and be loved by Him, right.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Thats is a good one for all of us to think about.
The Father pointed us to His Son. It is Jesus who we speak of as the lamb that was slain and the Light of the world and our Saviour. Jesus must never, can never, be excised from our prayers and worship.

Luke 9:35
“And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.”

Revelation 5:12
“Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”

I don't know that the verses match what you just said.

 

[Keris]

and be loved by Him, right.

So BE it! 🙃

 

[oyster67]

I have not extrapolated all of that from scripture

Let me know which part you would like to have scripture for or don't understand, dear friend.

but it sounds nice.

Amen! Nice Indeed!
Serendipity, Baby!

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Let me know which part you would like to have scripture for or don't understand, dear friend.


Amen! Nice Indeed!
Serendipity, Baby!

The part that is not from the Bible. That is up to you to decide.

 

[oyster67]

Thats is a good one for all of us to think about.
The Father pointed us to His Son. It is Jesus who we speak of as the lamb that was slain and the Light of the world and our Saviour. Jesus must never, can never, be excised from our prayers and worship.

Luke 9:35
“And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.”

Revelation 5:12
“Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”

I don't know that the verses match what you just said.

REALLY ???

Time for the power drill?

"The Father pointed us to His Son." ----------->"This is my beloved Son: hear him.”- Luke 9:35b

"It is Jesus who we speak of as the lamb that was slain." ---------->"Worthy is the Lamb that was slain..."-Rev5:12

 

[oyster67]

The part that is not from the Bible. That is up to you to decide.

I love you, Jacob. I was just trying to agree with you that the Gospel sounds nice. It is nice, thanks to the loving grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You yourself said in your own profile that you had a personal relationship with Him, so I figured you would know these things experientially.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

I love you, Jacob. I was just trying to agree with you that the Gospel sounds nice. It is nice, thanks to the loving grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You yourself said in your own profile that you had a personal relationship with Him, so I figured you would know these things experientially.

I accepted that part of what you said. But your response has more than one sentence. You have to deal with what you are communicating.

 

[oyster67]

You have to deal with what you are communicating.

A wise proverb for all of us to live by.
Thank you, dear brother.

 

[oyster67]

your response has more than one sentence.

Happens sometimes.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Hello.

It says, and God was the word.

John 1:1 TR - Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

why did you quote greek to me ? Did you not say earlier in another post you do not know greek?

New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Living Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Berean Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Berean Literal Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New American Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NASB 1995
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NASB 1977
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


yes it says the word was GOD obviously, because the word was with GOD and IS GOD. like i said before you need faith and understanding.

if you use basic logic it says the word ( JESUS) was with GOD and also it says the word ( JESUS) is GOD. the word is JESUS get it?

if you replace word by jesus it reads;

King James Bible
In the beginning was JESUS, and JESUS was with God, and JESUS was God.

Blessings.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

why did you quote greek to me ? Did you not say earlier in another post you do not know greek?

New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Living Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Berean Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Berean Literal Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New American Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NASB 1995
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NASB 1977
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


yes it says the word was GOD obviously, because the word was with GOD and IS GOD. like i said before you need faith and understanding.

if you use basic logic it says the word ( JESUS) was with GOD and also it says the word ( JESUS) is GOD. the word is JESUS get it?

if you replace word by jesus it reads;

King James Bible
In the beginning was JESUS, and JESUS was with God, and JESUS was God.

Blessings.

I agree with all the translations here because they are well established. I agree with your conclusion being rational. However, I disagree that I cannot know two words, theos and logos. That is why I copied the Greek here. Indeed, God was the word.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

I agree with all the translations here because they are well established. I agree with your conclusion being rational. However, I disagree that I cannot know two words, theos and logos. That is why I copied the Greek here. Indeed, God was the word.

Then continue to err Jacob there is nothing further will add here. good luck.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Then continue to err Jacob there is nothing further will add here. good luck.

You should never tell someone to continue to err. I explained the Greek order of words at the end of the verse to you.

If you say Jesus was God what about when Jesus was born and given His name?

 

[Nehemiah6]

If you say Jesus was God what about when Jesus was born and given His name?

What about it? "God was manifest in the flesh" and "the Word [GOD] became flesh and dwelt among us". Which means that God the Son became a sinless and perfect Man. Even the name "Jesus" tells us that He is God.

 

[posthuman]

I explained the Greek order of words at the end of the verse to you.

you previously explained that you don't know anything about Greek.

and it was previously explained also to you that other languages do not use the same gramatical structure as English.

for example in English you would ask 'do you have turnips?' but in German you would phrase this as 'have you turnips?'
you wouldn't use any word for 'do' at all and the order of words is different.

so looking at the order of words in Greek isn't telling you anything at all when you don't know what it means that they are in that order.

But in any case "God was the Word" and "the Word was God" are both telling us the same thing - that Christ, the Word, is God.