I am a Christian who does not accept or follow Christianity.

[JacobMartinMertens]

Seems like either God shared His glory or Jesus is God.

Jesus is speaking of Himself, not of God's glory being shared with Him.

 

[Cameron143]

Not of the worship that we offer to God.

But we can worship Jesus the King and Son of God our Lord and Savior as well.

There are degrees of worship?

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Seems like either God shared His glory or Jesus is God.

This verse might help you.

John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

There are degrees of worship?

Not that I know of. Just different Hebrew and Greek words translated as worship.

 

[Cameron143]

Jesus is speaking of Himself, not of God's glory being shared with Him.

Read the verse again...I had with Thee...that we shared.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Read the verse again...I had with Thee...that we shared.

Yes. Jesus shared with His Father in glory.

 

[Cameron143]

Not that I know of. Just different Hebrew and Greek words translated as worship.

I ask because only God is worthy of worship, but you say both God and Jesus can be worshipped.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

I ask because only God is worthy of worship, but you say both God and Jesus can be worshipped.

The Father is God the King.
The Son is Jesus the King.

 

[Cameron143]

Yes. Jesus shared with His Father in glory.

But you said God doesn't share His glory with another.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

But you said God doesn't share His glory with another.

God doesn't. But Jesus had a certain glory with His Father.

 

[Cameron143]

The Father is God the King.
The Son is Jesus the King.

Either only God is worthy of worship or not. Which is it?

 

[Cameron143]

God doesn't. But Jesus had a certain glory with His Father.

With Thee...means both having in common.

 

[oyster67]

This verse might help you.

John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.

Amen.

John 1:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Either only God is worthy of worship or not. Which is it?

That is not true. Jesus the Son of God is worthy of worship as well. We just don't worship Him as God. God did not come to earth. God is Spirit. But Jesus God's Son did come to earth. This is according to the foreknowledge and plan of God.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

With Thee...means both having in common.

No. Jesus was given glory by God. He does not share in God's glory.

 

[Cameron143]

That is not true. Jesus the Son of God is worthy of worship as well. We just don't worship Him as God. God did not come to earth. God is Spirit. But Jesus God's Son did come to earth. This is according to the foreknowledge and plan of God.

It is true. God alone is worthy of praise...Isaiah 25:1.

 

[Cameron143]

No. Jesus was given glory by God. He does not share in God's glory.

You don't want to believe it's true, but it is.

 

[oyster67]

I ask because only God is worthy of worship, but you say both God and Jesus can be worshipped.

Jesus is worthy.

Revelation 5:9
“And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;”


Revelation 5:12
“Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”

 

[oyster67]

Good night, Johnboy

 

[Magenta]

No. I am not.

Yes you are.

I do not believe that Jesus is God.

You are very confused.

Anyways, now you cannot say you did not know it was not allowed.