God's ONE Baptism For His Body!
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My perspective (if I'm wrong, I apologize, but, also, clarify it for me, and show me a better way):
If we (our inner person) were "in the flesh", we would be "mastered by sin", but, because we are "in Christ", we share in His crucifixion death and resurrection, and we are "one Spirit with Him" Who has "become a life-giving spirit", so we are "in the spirit".
Romans 7
24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with my mind I serve the law of God, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
Romans 8
10If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is https://biblehub.com/nasb_/romans/8.htm#fnalive because of righteousness.
If we (our inner person) were "in the flesh", we would be "mastered by sin", but, because we are "in Christ", we share in His crucifixion death and resurrection, and we are "one Spirit with Him" Who has "become a life-giving spirit", so we are "in the spirit".
Romans 7
24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with my mind I serve the law of God, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
Romans 8
10If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is https://biblehub.com/nasb_/romans/8.htm#fnalive because of righteousness.
Typical. Acts 2:38-47 says nothing of being baptized into the body of Christ.
You second example? Says nothing of water baptism either.
Galatians 3:26-29
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I asked for a verse and you cannot provide one.
Galatians 3:26-27
Amen! Kinda difficult since the Body Of Christ did not begin until Paul in Acts 9, eh?
Amen.
Read the last part of verse 47
"And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved."
What is the church? It's the body of Christ
His second example specifically says we are sons through FAITH.
My perspective (if I'm wrong, I apologize, but, also, clarify it for me, and show me a better way) on the phrase "not in the flesh but in the spirit" (Ro 8:9):Do we need to know the mechanics of it, or just the fact it happens?
- Matthew 3:11: "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit"
- Mark 1:8: "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit"
- Luke 3:16: "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit"
Romans 8-9
If we (our inner persons) were "in the flesh", we would be "mastered by sin", but, because the "husband" (the flesh) died (Ro 7), we (our inner persons) were free to "marry" another, Christ, so we share in His crucifixion death and resurrection, and we are "one Spirit with Him" Who has "become a life-giving spirit", so we are "in the spirit".
Romans 7
24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with my mind I serve the law of God, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
Romans 8
10If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
Doesn't say it was by water baptism. You read into it what you want to see.
Your one example specifically said it was by FAITH.
Aren't there both arguments for and against baptismal regeneration in the NT?
For instance, Cornelius and the rest who heard Peter's Gospel were baptized with the Spirit by hearing with faith (just as the Galatians), and, only afterward were water baptized?
Read ALL of Acts 2:38 thru 47. Verse 38 says to be baptized. Verse 41 says that that gladly received the word were baptized and about 3000 souls were added. Verse 47 tells you that it was the Lord that was doing the adding to the church (and the church is his body).
Cornelius is not a good example. Acts 2 and 10 were unique instances where the Spirit fell unilaterally without the laying on ofvthe apostle's hands, and in both cases it was to validate what was occurring, and in both cases, the church began, 1st in Jerusalem and then in Caesarea amongst the Gentiles.
On one hand, it's a good argument you make, but are you saying God gave the gift of His Holy Spirit into spiritually dead, defiled, persons?
Paul also says the Galatians received the Spirit by "hearing with faith". LOL
Also, keep in mind that all Protestants practice water baptism, they only disagree with you on what exactly it does... but, again, at the end of the day, they practice it.
I mean, on one hand, it seems important, as a doctrinal issue, to define what the Bible is teaching, but, practically, since Protestants practice it anyway, it's a little less important than, say, whether believing in Christ's death and resurrection is a salvific issue. At least I think.
Indeed. Since one is saved via repentance and belief, regardless of whether or not one is water baptized, whereas
it cannot be said that water baptism apart from faith and belief holds any value whatsoever in terms of salvation.
I mean, if we start saying "you don't need to believe in Christ's death and resurrection to be saved", that would be a REAL problem not on the same level as saying "we practice water baptism, but it's not for salvation". LOL