Which Bible Verses Will Prepare You for the Post-Tribulation Rapture (and the Great Tribulation Before That?)

[studentoftheword]

Wow, you really are afraid.

OH YA ____SO AFRAID -----

-BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!-----Bet I scared you HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Satan says to YOU -------I have you so duped ------keep believing that there will be a Post Tribulation -Rapture of the Church Age Saints ---- and I will have your soul in my domain -------

Post Tribulation Rapture for the Church Age Saints ????????------

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

My post was neither intended as an insult, nor was it intended to discourage you, but rather to point out that you made your conclusion very clear.

The reality is that those who trust in the Lord have nothing to worry about. The verses that prepare us for the vicissitudes of everyday life also prepare us for anything that may happen in the future.

This coming event puts most of us in a situation that doesn't occur often at all in ones life, specifically the taking away of our ability to buy and sell, to provide for ourselves and our families. And God had shown in the Bible that what to come is going to be the worst time in history. So it needs specific preparation.

This coming Great Tribulation is going to cause a great falling away of people who aren't ready for it, so it's not just about everyday practice of trust and faith. Seriously, what will you do when the mark of the beast is implemented and you refused the mark? How are you going to provide for yourself and your family if you have one? If you haven't built up your trust and fellowship level in the Lord enough to be able to hear His specific instructions to you about provision or allowed room for God miraculous provision, than are you really ready at all with your everyday level of faith and trust in the Lord? This thread is about that, to encourage people to deepen their trust, fellowship, faith and endurance much further to be able to face all the sorts of severe persecution that Christians will face in the Great Tribulation.


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[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

OH YA ____SO AFRAID -----

-BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!-----Bet I scared you HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Satan says to YOU -------I have you so duped ------keep believing that there will be a Post Tribulation -Rapture of the Church Age Saints ---- and I will have your soul in my domain -------

Post Tribulation Rapture for the Church Age Saints ????????------

Hmmm...how old are you exactly? Anyway, it doesn't really matter what you post to me. The Bible says the Rapture is after the Great Tribulation and no amount of these strange posts to me is going to change that.

If you're so confident about your Pre-Trib Rapture, why are you so upset by this thread? Because I'm so confident in the Post-Trib Rapture, I'm personally not upset about the Pre-Trib teaching - I KNOW the Pre-Trib Rapture won't happen and that Pre-Tribbers will go through the GT with the rest of us. But Pre-Tribbers will be at a vast disadvantage and could easily fall away because they haven't built up the faith and trust in the Lord required when our ability to buy and sell (provision) gets taken away.

So please build up your trust and faith in the Lord for when your ability to buy and sell gets taken away from you. If you do that, you're less likely to do the wrong thing, such as betraying other Christians to try to save your own skin or taking the mark because you didn't have enough faith in God to provide for you.


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[Fillan]

Attempt to draw them out then,,who is it you think may have worshiped the image and used it's mark(money?) to buy and sell? Was it the Jews in the 1st century? was it the Christians? Was it Rome? Just saying,a lot of people say it's all over from way back then but then again nobody ever say's who did it and explains how and why. Is it that they just keep parroting the others who said someone did it in the past?

Hello. I think this verse answers your question: Revelation 13: 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads

It has not happened yet because no such event has involved all people. Some folks called preterists point to events in the Roman Empire, but not all people were under the Roman Empire. For example the Northern frontier of the Roman Empire is around 20 miles South of here, my ancestors were never part of the Roman Empire. Also the many hundred millions of Chinese were never part of Rome. God Bless

 

[Truthnightmare]

Well although I may see them fitting together quite well(which I do), I also see that your still not saying who or when in regards?. Who,when? Surely whosoever taught you that these things where fulfilled in some manner in the past has also explained it out to you and convinced you of this. Again who fell down and worshiped that image and who bought and sold/took it's mark?

That’s not quite what I believe…

Perhaps I can be a bit clearer in my position.

Surely whosoever taught you that these things where fulfilled in some manner in the past has also explained it out to you and convinced you of this.

Who taught me? I’m from the land of gold teeth, drill music, drugs and murder. There is little to no teaching where I’m from.

John 6
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day

Moving on….

You asked

who fell down and worshiped that image and who bought and sold/took it's mark

Simple answer… No one.
The mark of the beast is not demanded upon men until the antichrist (Satan)‘is here.

Let’s not worry about fulfillment of prophecy, lets look at types…

“Nimrod was the founder of Babylon, which partook of his character as being the great antagonist of God's Truth and God's People. We cannot fail to see, in Nimrod, Satan's first attempt to raise up a human universal ruler of men. There have been many subsequent attempts, such as Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander, Napoleon, and others. He will finally succeed in the person of the Antichrist.”

Noah’s flood..
And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days. 5 months

There is another flood coming…

Revelation 12:15
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

How long is this flood of lies and torment?

5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 5 months

And again

10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

Why was Jonah in the belly for 3 days? Where was Christ for three day?

Fulfillment of prophecy and examples of types of what is to come are quite different,,

As far as compliments and parallels,’ one only needs to look to Genesis as a compliment to
Revelation for such edification of the matter, with much more to be offered.

1. Genesis, the book of the beginning.
1. Apocalypse, the book of the end.
2. The Earth created (1:1).
2. The Earth passed away (21:1).
3. Satan's first rebellion.
3. Satan's final rebellion (20:3, 7-10).
4. Sun, moon, and stars for Earth's government (1:14-16).
4. Sun, moon, and stars, connected with Earth's judgment (6:13; 8:12; 16:8).
5. Sun to govern the day (1:16).
5. No need of the sun (21:23).
6. Darkness called night (1:5).
6. "No night there" (22:5).
7. Waters called seas (1:10).
7. "No more sea" (21:1).
8. A river for Earth's blessing (2:10-14).
8. A river for the New Earth (22:1, 2).
9. Man in God's image (1:26).
9. Man headed by one in Satan's image (13).
10. Entrance of sin (3).
10. Development and end of sin (21, 22).
11. Curse pronounced (3:14, 17).
11. "No more curse" (22:3).
12. Death entered (3:19).
12. "No more death" (21:4).
13. Cherubim, first mentioned in connection with man (3:24).
13. Cherubim, finally mentioned in connection with man (4:6).
14. Man driven out from Eden (3:24).
14. Man restored (22).
15. Tree of life guarded (3:24).
15. "Right to the Tree of Life" (22:14).
16. Sorrow and suffering enter (3:17).
16. No more sorrow (21:4).
17. Man's religion, art, and science, resorted to for enjoyment, apart from God (4).
17. Man's religion, luxury, art, and science, in their full glory, judged and destroyed by God (18).
18. Nimrod, a great rebel and king, and hidden anti-God, the founder of Babylon (10:8, 9).
18. The Beast, the great rebel, a king and manifested anti-God, the reviver of Babylon (13-18).
19. A flood from God to destroy an evil generation (6-9).
19. A flood from Satan to destroy an elect generation (12).
20. The Bow, the token of God's covenant with the Earth (9:13).
20. The Bow, betokening God's remembrance of His covenant with the Earth (4:3; 10:1).
21. Sodom and Egypt, the place of corruption and temptation (13, 19).
21. Sodom and Egypt again: (spiritually representing Jerusalem) (11:8).
22. A confederacy against Abraham's people overthrown (14).
22. A confederacy against Abraham's seed overthrown (12).
23. Marriage of first Adam (2:18-23).
23. Marriage of last Adam (19).
24. A bride sought for Abraham's son (Isaac) and found (24).
24. A Bride made ready and brought to Abraham's Son (19:9). See Matt. 1:1.
25. Two angels acting for God on behalf of His people (19).
25. Two witnesses acting for God on behalf of His People (11).
26. A promised seed to possess the gate of his enemies (22:17).
26. The promised seed coming into possession (11:18).
27. Man's dominion ceased and Satan's begun (3:24).
27. Satan's dominion ended, and man's restored (22).
28. The old serpent causing sin, suffering, and death (3:1).
28. The old serpent bound for 1,000 years (20:1-3).
29. The doom of the old serpent pronounced (3:15).
29. The doom on the old serpent executed (20:10).
30. Sun, moon, and stars, associated with Israel (37:9).
30. Sun, moon, and stars, associated again with Israel (12).​

 

[iamsoandso]

Hello. I think this verse answers your question: Revelation 13: 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads

It has not happened yet because no such event has involved all people. Some folks called preterists point to events in the Roman Empire, but not all people were under the Roman Empire. For example the Northern frontier of the Roman Empire is around 20 miles South of here, my ancestors were never part of the Roman Empire. Also the many hundred millions of Chinese were never part of Rome. God Bless

I agree one would only need to read Romans 13 to realize that Paul thought those Christians in the 1st century were to see Rome as ordained by God. He even goes as far as to say they should pay taxes which would mean they were to use Romes money so surly Paul would not suggest they use the money if he thought it was the mark https://biblehub.com/interlinear/romans/13.htm

Again if some thought it were the Jews in that day that saw the Caesars of Rome as god or worshiped him that would easily be disproved because they did just the opposite in the 1st,second and third revolt, that is REVOLT DOES NOT MEAN WORSHIP. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-2.html Anyway I always make it a point to ask how they are putting their puzzle pieces together when anyone says they think it took place then...

 

[Fillan]

I agree one would only need to read Romans 13 to realize that Paul thought those Christians in the 1st century were to see Rome as ordained by God. He even goes as far as to say they should pay taxes which would mean they were to use Romes money so surly Paul would not suggest they use the money if he thought it was the mark https://biblehub.com/interlinear/romans/13.htm
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Hello iamsoandso! Thanks for replying to me. Good point. Jesus also held up a Roman Coin and said: “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's” (Matthew 22:21 NASB). So Jesus didn't think Roman money was the mark of the beast. God Bless You

 

[studentoftheword]

If you're so confident about your Pre-Trib Rapture, why are you so upset by this thread?

Show me where I have been upset --------I am having a great time with your posts to me -----so funny I say -

I will be sad when you stop posting this so called Post --Trib Rapture --your not alone in your thinking either ---there are many on here who think Like you do -------

i say
Go back and look at my post on page 1 Post 20 I believe ---I even wish you Good LUCK with your belief----you take that as being me being upset -----WOW !!!!!!!!!!

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I say
Your the one scared and don't want to hear from others who may present scripture to show that there is a Pre --Trib ----for the Church Age Saints ------cause then you might just get confused ----LOL


You posted this in your OP -------

OH -----NOT DEBATES Allowed ----this says -------I am scared that someone might post scripture that goes against the Post --Trib theory --------as I am the only one who knows when the Rapture is ---I have all the scripture to back it up cause I trust God and He spoke to me and gave ME ONLY ---all the truth and the truth is ==there is a post Rapture of the Saints -------

I say -------You my friend seem to have a ego problem ---and a true Christian is to lay ego down ------so this says to me that your not a mature Christian in your walk with Christ yet ---as per what you yourself write -

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This is YOUR COMMENT from your OP ------

Please no debate about whether the Rapture is Pre-, Mid-, Post- or non-existent

(I'm fine either way with a rapture or gathering - doesn't matter to me as long as the Lord Jesus collects us!).

There are plenty of other threads where you can debate about when the Rapture/gathering occurs ad nauseum.

I say
Then you say this --------I'm fine either way with a rapture or gathering - doesn't matter to me as long as the Lord Jesus collects us!).

That is a lie ---
as your not fine with the Rapture ---Pre --trib ------your posting show that BIG TIME -----No debate --no scripture posted to refute what you think ------this thread is all about you and what you Think YOU KNOW and Want to Believe -------

And with this Statement you make here ------

you said ====
There are plenty of other threads where you can debate about when the Rapture/gathering occurs ad nauseum.

I say -----------YOUR Fear of anyone refuting what you believe shows here big time -------telling people that can't post what they believe about the Rapture unless they think like you -------is very sad -------


Here is what you said to someone who Challenged your belief --------

Nehemiah6 said:
Really? Do you even know the purpose of the Tribulation? And do you even know the purpose of the reign of the Antichrist?

YOUR POST Reply ----TO Nehemiah6 -----who is asking you a question ------

your Quote here
You can argue about that on a Pre-Trib vs. Post-Trib thread, but not here. I won't be joining in on that though because it never gets resolved.

I say ------How Rude is this answer to Nehemiah6 ---feeding your ego here I think --saying I'm in charge here -this is MY THREAD ---------Satan is your influence here not God ------there was a question being asked of you ---there was no argument your the one arguing here --and being rude
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Your Quote here
This thread is about how to prepare to endure the GT to the end, even unto death or when Jesus comes to collect us after the GT.

I say -----This thread is not about how to prepare for the Rapture ---it is all about what you believe to be true and don't want to listen to others who just may know more than you do --------

Your Quote here
PS - I'm so convinced that it will be a Post-Trib rapture, and this is why I started this thread. If anything, when the AC shows up and we're all still here, this thread may help people out.

I say -----Again ----your convinced ------it is all about you being convinced ----EGO BEING FED --by the Flesh -----you care not about hearing what others are convinced of -------you want the floor for yourself --and again you show your Fleshy Ego being Fed here by your statement here ------

Your Quote here ----
this is why I started this thread. If anything, when the AC shows up and we're all still here, this thread may help people out.

I say ----arrogance ---showing up here ---feeding Ego -again ----- puffing yourself up ------which goes against Scripture -----for the true Christians ------

Jesus says -----when you help people or pray for others do not advertise it ---do it in private ----- so it gives God the Glory -----your taking the glory yourself ---puffing yourself up -----sad ------

Don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing --------Great Scripture to learn from

There are scriptures to back up the PRE_-_TrIb Rapture ---whether you like it or not -----and when you read the Scripture and research it and understand it ------the Pre--Trib Rapture makes Much more sense than the Post --Trib Rapture ------

So I suggest you research the Scripture properly and ask the Holy Spirit if you have the indwelling of Him to give you the REAL TRUTH behind the Rhema Word of God --------

Here is a good place to start -----research the Scripture ---and get in touch with the Holy spirit ---and get the truth -----not a personal belief ---

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/rapture-bible-verses/

 

[montana123]

The best thing to do is not worry about it for it will do no good because it is going to happen.

The Holy Spirit will comfort you in these times, and God can also take away the pain.

Jesus said do not worry about what they can do to the body but can do no more, but fear God for it will be worse if you go against Him.

So take the lesser of the 2 punishments for the world will not hand it to you as worse if you disobey God.

Also love is not perfect in fear for fear has torment, but love casts out fear.

Also the Bible says they are beheaded for the witness of Christ which they want the saints off the earth as quick as possible and do not want to play around.

It could be that God is not going to allow the saints to be tortured but a quick death like when God put a restriction on Satan when he afflicted Job that he could not take his life.

Also before Jesus' time came to give His human body they could not lay hands on Him, and he would always escape from out of their sight, so God can cause you to just somehow escape them.

Jesus said when the antichrist steps in the new temple of the Hebrews and claims to be God to run, and hope nothing slows you down like winter, or having children, and do not even worry about wasting time to go get something but run.

The saints will not have a microchip in them so they cannot track them by that method, but the satellite can still see what is happening on the earth so it will be hard to escape.

One thing to know is the Bible says whoever uses the sword shall perish with the sword, and whoever leads someone captive will go in to captivity, and this is the patience, and faith, of the saints, which seems to mean do not fight back for the world will fight physically for their beliefs, and the saints have to be different than the world.

If you fight back then you are acting like the world which is not right.

The truth is one saint in a glorified body could take on the entire world and defeat them for people in the flesh are no match for the saints in a glorified body.

And when the saints have a glorified body an angel would not want to get in to a fight with them for they would get whipped.

The angels are ministering spirits to all who shall inherit salvation, and the Bible says the angels desire to look in to the salvation of the saints, for they will have a higher position in heaven than the angels.

God loves the angels but everything was made for the man Christ Jesus, and the saints.

If I go through the tribulation, and they catch me, I will say to them, I'll be back, and when Jesus comes back with all the saints, I will say how do you like me now, lol.

This is more than a persecution by people that are warring with people they do not like, but Satan as the New Age Christ is behind this persecution, and the people persecuting have been deceived by a devil so they have the nature of a devil, and the human will of choice is no more.

The new age movement opened the door for Lucifer to be able to rule the world, and that is because the nations governments came together to work for peace, and supporting the New Age Christ.

As long as one nation allows the truth to be preached God would not end sin on earth, but they stopped the Gospel from being preached, and the belief of a personal God on a world wide scale.

The antichrist is more than against Christianity, but against all religions that believe in a personal God.

Just like to bring up why did Lucifer rebel against God when He is an omnipresent Spirit, and all powerful.

It could be that Lucifer did not know how great God is for He did not reveal that information to the angels.

Angels cannot see God unless He shows them a visible image, so He could of had an angelic body to have a visible relationship with the angels, and Lucifer thought is that all there is to God which he thought he could of taken over worship of heaven, and exalt himself.

But now the devils know how great God is which they told Jesus will you punish us before the time, and the devils believe in one God, and they tremble, and when the devils are cast to earth the devil is mad because he knows he has but a short time.

Our salvation is about faith so we get the privilege to know how great is which gives us an advantage to want to be right with God.

And also why can't a fallen angel repent and be saved.

Because they are only one being with no other components to them so when they sinned they tainted their whole being with nowhere to put off the sin.

A person is flesh, and soul, and all sin resides in the flesh, so they can off the flesh with the sin, and the soul is saved and not tainted with sin.

God is love, and He loves all people, and will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him.

Which after the 6th trumpet the world will still not repent of their sins, and turn to God, and that is when the devils are cast to earth, and Satan appears as the New Age Christ, and the devils deceive all people who do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ, which is the strong delusion He will give all people who do not love the truth, and when they take the mark of the beast then the world cannot receive salvation anymore, and the fulness of the Gentiles have come in.

God has to allow them to persecute the truth before He will end sin on earth, but if the saints are not on earth for them to persecute then they did not go against the truth.

The saints are representing the truth but if they are not on earth then how did they go against the truth if it is not there.

Also the people that follow the New Age Christ are intentionally following Lucifer, and shall receive the nature of a devil, so they will be as terrible as the devils.

Even when the wrath of God goes upon them they blaspheme against Him instead of saying sorry for they know how they feel, and know they cannot be right with Him.

The devils know they can never be right with God for they know how they feel, cold, empty, terrible, without love.

 

[SteveSmith]

I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.

 

[montana123]

I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.

When it does not happen it will overthrow the faith of some people, and they will end up following the New Age Christ.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Paul said do not let any person deceive you by any means for the resurrection will not happen until the man of sin claims to be God.

That happens at the mid point of the 7 years period God is allowing the world to have their way to rebel against Him so He can end sin on earth.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

The antichrist has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, and power was given him to make war against the saints which he will persecute the saints for the last three and one half years of the 7 years period.

The first three and one half years salvation is still available to the world so the saints will remain on earth to represent the truth.

The beast blasphemes against God and His tabernacle which he would not do that unless the saints are on earth.

He will persecute the saints for the last three and one half years which the saints are given in to his hands for three and one half years, and at the end of that time all things are finished.

Which then comes the end when the Son shall deliver up the kingdom to the Father, and then Jesus goes against the world.

Once the resurrection happens there is no need for the world to continue on so if there is a pre-trib resurrection why does the world continue on whether it is 7 years to go, or three and one half years to go.

Also God is allowing the world to go against the truth but if the saints are not on earth how can they go against the truth if the truth is not represented on earth.

The resurrection is at the end of the 7 years period.

Which it is the new age movement, New Age Christ, that shall deceive the world, and try to change the current belief system of the world to the new age movement belief system which is why the Bible says he will think to change times, and laws.

Also there is no tribulation saints after the resurrection because Jesus said if they do not make it in the resurrection they cannot be with Him, and they will have to go to the second resurrection.

 

[Dino246]

This coming event puts most of us in a situation that doesn't occur often at all in ones life, specifically the taking away of our ability to buy and sell, to provide for ourselves and our families. And God had shown in the Bible that what to come is going to be the worst time in history. So it needs specific preparation.

This coming Great Tribulation is going to cause a great falling away of people who aren't ready for it, so it's not just about everyday practice of trust and faith. Seriously, what will you do when the mark of the beast is implemented and you refused the mark? How are you going to provide for yourself and your family if you have one? If you haven't built up your trust and fellowship level in the Lord enough to be able to hear His specific instructions to you about provision or allowed room for God miraculous provision, than are you really ready at all with your everyday level of faith and trust in the Lord? This thread is about that, to encourage people to deepen their trust, fellowship, faith and endurance much further to be able to face all the sorts of severe persecution that Christians will face in the Great Tribulation.


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I believe that most of these events took place in the first century. That said, it is always good to build our trust and faith in the Lord.

 

[iamsoandso]

That’s not quite what I believe…

Perhaps I can be a bit clearer in my position.



Who taught me? I’m from the land of gold teeth, drill music, drugs and murder. There is little to no teaching where I’m from.

John 6
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day

Moving on….

You asked

Simple answer… No one.
The mark of the beast is not demanded upon men until the antichrist (Satan)‘is here.

Let’s not worry about fulfillment of prophecy, lets look at types…

“Nimrod was the founder of Babylon, which partook of his character as being the great antagonist of God's Truth and God's People. We cannot fail to see, in Nimrod, Satan's first attempt to raise up a human universal ruler of men. There have been many subsequent attempts, such as Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander, Napoleon, and others. He will finally succeed in the person of the Antichrist.”

Noah’s flood..
And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days. 5 months

There is another flood coming…

Revelation 12:15
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

How long is this flood of lies and torment?

5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 5 months

And again

10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

Why was Jonah in the belly for 3 days? Where was Christ for three day?

Fulfillment of prophecy and examples of types of what is to come are quite different,,

As far as compliments and parallels,’ one only needs to look to Genesis as a compliment to
Revelation for such edification of the matter, with much more to be offered.

1. Genesis, the book of the beginning.
1. Apocalypse, the book of the end.
2. The Earth created (1:1).
2. The Earth passed away (21:1).
3. Satan's first rebellion.
3. Satan's final rebellion (20:3, 7-10).
4. Sun, moon, and stars for Earth's government (1:14-16).
4. Sun, moon, and stars, connected with Earth's judgment (6:13; 8:12; 16:8).
5. Sun to govern the day (1:16).
5. No need of the sun (21:23).
6. Darkness called night (1:5).
6. "No night there" (22:5).
7. Waters called seas (1:10).
7. "No more sea" (21:1).
8. A river for Earth's blessing (2:10-14).
8. A river for the New Earth (22:1, 2).
9. Man in God's image (1:26).
9. Man headed by one in Satan's image (13).
10. Entrance of sin (3).
10. Development and end of sin (21, 22).
11. Curse pronounced (3:14, 17).
11. "No more curse" (22:3).
12. Death entered (3:19).
12. "No more death" (21:4).
13. Cherubim, first mentioned in connection with man (3:24).
13. Cherubim, finally mentioned in connection with man (4:6).
14. Man driven out from Eden (3:24).
14. Man restored (22).
15. Tree of life guarded (3:24).
15. "Right to the Tree of Life" (22:14).
16. Sorrow and suffering enter (3:17).
16. No more sorrow (21:4).
17. Man's religion, art, and science, resorted to for enjoyment, apart from God (4).
17. Man's religion, luxury, art, and science, in their full glory, judged and destroyed by God (18).
18. Nimrod, a great rebel and king, and hidden anti-God, the founder of Babylon (10:8, 9).
18. The Beast, the great rebel, a king and manifested anti-God, the reviver of Babylon (13-18).
19. A flood from God to destroy an evil generation (6-9).
19. A flood from Satan to destroy an elect generation (12).
20. The Bow, the token of God's covenant with the Earth (9:13).
20. The Bow, betokening God's remembrance of His covenant with the Earth (4:3; 10:1).
21. Sodom and Egypt, the place of corruption and temptation (13, 19).
21. Sodom and Egypt again: (spiritually representing Jerusalem) (11:8).
22. A confederacy against Abraham's people overthrown (14).
22. A confederacy against Abraham's seed overthrown (12).
23. Marriage of first Adam (2:18-23).
23. Marriage of last Adam (19).
24. A bride sought for Abraham's son (Isaac) and found (24).
24. A Bride made ready and brought to Abraham's Son (19:9). See Matt. 1:1.
25. Two angels acting for God on behalf of His people (19).
25. Two witnesses acting for God on behalf of His People (11).
26. A promised seed to possess the gate of his enemies (22:17).
26. The promised seed coming into possession (11:18).
27. Man's dominion ceased and Satan's begun (3:24).
27. Satan's dominion ended, and man's restored (22).
28. The old serpent causing sin, suffering, and death (3:1).
28. The old serpent bound for 1,000 years (20:1-3).
29. The doom of the old serpent pronounced (3:15).
29. The doom on the old serpent executed (20:10).
30. Sun, moon, and stars, associated with Israel (37:9).
30. Sun, moon, and stars, associated again with Israel (12).​

The thing is that no one seems to think present tense or even entertain the mindset that any of this might be happening right now as we are typing. I suppose it's the comfort zone mindset where it just feels more comfortable thinking that it was all fulfilled way back in ad70 or that we will all be whisk away before it takes place off in the future and so it wont apply to us at all. It's more soothing to think that way rather than to watch or be ready like we were told. Oh but if they would just look at the here and now and examine how they buy and sell or look at the image they had already sat up they would see. I suppose it to be as you said in another post "unless it were given....ect." then so they would not be able to see it and so they would place it in the past or off into the future and associate it with another generation in time,(the old anyone but me approach,lol) . Anyway it just jumps right out that neither of the two think that they were to watch for it in their eschatology.

 

[iamsoandso]

Hello iamsoandso! Thanks for replying to me. Good point. Jesus also held up a Roman Coin and said: “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's” (Matthew 22:21 NASB). So Jesus didn't think Roman money was the mark of the beast. God Bless You

Usury, you calculate the number that is equal to your own name, you keep it in your forehead and only the one with wisdom of it is you your own self(your pin #). You use it to buy and sell and you enter it into the keypad with your right hand everyday of your life.

 

[Truthnightmare]

The thing is that no one seems to think present tense or even entertain the mindset that any of this might be happening right now as we are typing. I suppose it's the comfort zone mindset where it just feels more comfortable thinking that it was all fulfilled way back in ad70 or that we will all be whisk away before it takes place off in the future and so it wont apply to us at all. It's more soothing to think that way rather than to watch or be ready like we were told. Oh but if they would just look at the here and now and examine how they buy and sell or look at the image they had already sat up they would see. I suppose it to be as you said in another post "unless it were given....ect." then so they would not be able to see it and so they would place it in the past or off into the future and associate it with another generation in time,(the old anyone but me approach,lol) . Anyway it just jumps right out that neither of the two think that they were to watch for it in their eschatology.

The 70ad is mind blowing, there were temples left standing after the siege… That's not what Christ described as “no stone left upon another”
Rapture believers… as I was one at one time.. need to be very careful. Looking to save your life at this time will cost you your life.

 

[iamsoandso]

The 70ad is mind blowing, there were temples left standing after the siege… That's not what Christ described as “no stone left upon another”
Rapture believers… as I was one at one time.. need to be very careful. Looking to save your life at this time will cost you your life.

Received it's deadly wound in ad70,,,those dwelling on the earth made an image of it in 1948 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-14.htm be careful of the image you worship...

 

[Truthnightmare]

Received it's deadly wound in ad70,,,those dwelling on the earth made an image of it in 1948 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-14.htm be careful of the image you worship...

Not sure I understand… Who or what received, the deadly wound in 70ad?

 

[iamsoandso]

Not sure I understand… Who or what received, the deadly wound in 70ad?

Secular man made Israel,, best to wait for the New Jerusalem that the Lord is bringing with him,,,well unless they decided to make their own instead of waiting...

 

[Truthnightmare]

Secular man made Israel,, best to wait for the New Jerusalem that the Lord is bringing with him,,,well unless they decided to make their own instead of waiting...

Secular man made Israel,,

Why do you believe that? Would you say secular man made Abraham?

 

[ewq1938]

Secular man made Israel,,

The deadly wound is something that happens to one of the mountains of the Rev 13:1 beast. Mountains are just land masses in Greek. Something that far ago can't be something part of the beast healed from as it is an endtimes thing only as it lasts for 42 months then is destroyed.

best to wait for the New Jerusalem that the Lord is bringing with him

NJ comes LONG after Christ's return. It doesn't come with him. The old Earth isn't even there when NJ comes down to the new Earth. Christ's return is to this old Earth like the first coming was.