Again you misrepresent what I wrote. At any rate, what reward is preferable to God?
Tell me if I have this right about your idea of what happens in heaven
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It’s in the word angel… Every time the Bible mentions a angel it is automatically a masculine noun.
Angel
malak: a messenger
Original Word: מֲלְאָךְ
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: malak
Phonetic Spelling: (mal-awk')
Definition: a messenger
Can angels reproduce?
https://www.gotquestions.org/can-angels-reproduce.html
The Bible never directly says whether angels reproduce, but Jesus touched on a related subject. When asked about human marriage in eternity, Jesus replied, “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30). The fact that there is no marriage among angels has led some to believe that angels are “sexless” or genderless. Of course, if angels are genderless, then a safe assumption is that they do not reproduce—but that conclusion cannot be proved from the text. The fact that there is no marriage among angels does not necessarily mean there is no gender and no procreation. Angels do not marry, but we can’t make the leap from “no marriage” to “no gender” or “no reproduction,” however logical such a leap would seem.
In the biblical sense, most often sex equals marriage.
There is no gender of angels in heaven because there such thing as female angels.
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It is only by the Divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called "a son of God". For that which is "born of the flesh is flesh". God is spirit, and that which is "born of the Spirit is spirit" (John 3:6). Hence Adam is called a "son of God" in Luke 3:38. Those "in Christ" having "the new nature" which is by the direct creation of God (2Cor. 5:17. Eph. 2:10) can be, and are called "sons of God" (John 1:13. Rom. 8:14, 15. 1John 3:1). (*1)
This is why angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Ps. 29:1; 89:6. Dan. 3:25 (no art.). (*2) We have no authority or right to take the expression in Gen. 6:2, 4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Gen. 6:2 the Sept. renders it "angels". Angels are called "spirits" (Ps. 104:4. Heb. 1:7, 14), for spirits are created by God.” - Bullinger
By believing in Christ we have the opportunity to become sons of God, like angels… Which makes us children of God.
Sons of God don’t have sex with sons of God.
The fact that there is no marriage among angels does not necessarily mean there is no gender and no procreation. Angels do not marry, but we can’t make the leap from “no marriage” to “no gender” or “no reproduction,” however logical such a leap would seem.
Genesis 6 is clear, angels had sex with human women.
Agreed… But we won’t be daughters of man in heaven…for the daughters of man are NOT as the angels…. we will be sons of God.. Which makes us a family, a family that will not be sleeping with each other.
These angels in Genesis 6 had sexual desires and took wives. Explain that.
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Locoponydirtman
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No being married means life time support, not being allowed divorce for any reason ever means lifetime support. Even though the father does not have to give her.
He is not allowed out of the marriage ever for any reason ever, which means lifetime support, even if the father refuses to give her to him. He is married to her and must support her but does not necesarily get to have her, because he is married to her he must support her for life, mean while the father can refuse to let him have her. The father can keep her in his house while her husband is obligated to support her because she is married to him. He must support her because they are married but the father has the option to keep her from him, while he must support her because they are irrevokably married, and he can sleep alone in his house while she sleeps alone at her fathers house, which does not change the fact that they are indeed married and therefore he must support her while never laying eyes on her again.
"if the father refuses to give her to him. He is married to her and must support her".....if the father does now allow the marriage, he is not married to her. You cannot have it both ways.
In genesis chapter six, the angels that came to earth were fully functional males bearing seed. It was only on earth that sexual relations were possible because it is only on earth in the flesh that female bodies exist.
Angels are not touched by sexual urges except if they are introduced in a flesh environment where females are present and the angels themselves are vile enough to offend God by violating the lesser human beings.
Also, this was not the only time they attempted to contaminate the bloodline leading to Christ.
The verses never said they could not. GOD allowed it to happen. About contaminating the blood line. The angels cannot see the future, They knew nothings about Jesus birth.
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Locoponydirtman
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Nope thats not what is written.
Being life time support fkr a wife he is disallowed to have is his punishment for defiling the virgin.
"But if her father refuses to let him marry her, the man must still pay him an amount equal to the bride price of a virgin. Exodus 22:17
The angels of Genesis 6 were not suppose to come to earth. If they had not done so they wouldn’t have been able to have sex with women…. They received punishment for their actions.
Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Angels are not stupid, they knew Christ was to be born.
Genesis 3
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
“There were Nephilim in the earth in those days (i.e. in the days of Noah); and also AFTER THAT,”
So that "after that", i.e. after the Flood, there was a second irruption of these fallen angels, evidently smaller in number and more limited in area, for they were for the most part confined to Canaan, and were in fact known as "the nations of Canaan". It was for the destruction of these, that the sword of Israel was necessary, as the Flood had been before.
As to the date of this second irruption, it was evidently soon after it became known that the seed was to come through Abraham; for, when he came out from Haran (Gen. 12:6) and entered Canaan, the significant fact is stated : "The Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land." And in Gen. 14:5 they were already known as "Raphain" and Emim", and had established themselves at Asteroth Karnaim and Shaven Kiriathaim.
Isaiah knew Christ was coming
Isaiah 11:4
Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.
Isaiah 9;6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Locoponydirtman
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If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money according to the bride-price of virgins.
Exodus 22:17 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/exo.22.17.NKJV
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Locoponydirtman
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His "thirsty" way of presenting himself, his insistence on premarital sex, Im sure he never got past a first date.Spending all day debating on a message board. Nothing describes chick magnet more than that.
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Locoponydirtman
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Right, it is normal and natural to want a son, especially when God personally promises you and that the salvation of man kind will come from your sons.
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Ruby123
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Locoponydirtman
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Indeed.
I have seen many folks get married from all walks of life. But any woman that has any idea about her value isnt going for all that mess.