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evyaniy

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ayes brother but who’s ever actually been offended by capitalized letters ? Is it like an internet fopa? To capitalize something you’re highlighting and discussing ? I don’t get that offense honestly if we’re going to be offended by a capital letter it’s frankly maturity issue in my opinion but I am having a grumpy day thus far so probably just the old man hormones but after considering I still don’t see any offense and just can’t get behind the whole capitalized offense I feel like it’s a skit
Do you have the ability to capitalize a reference to the Father, Son or Holy Spirit or when using Their Names in a post?
 

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The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were all involved with the resurrection of Christ. Could He have raised Himself alone? Absolutely. The Father had given Him this power and authority.
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. (John 2:19=21)

At the same time, several verses say that God raised Him up.
The question is who is Jesus ? Is he god ? Is Jesus a different person from The father and Holy Ghost ?

If we understand Jesus is the fulness of the godhead in one body the question goes away and becomes nonsense did god raise Jesus up ? Or did Jesus raise himself up ? If we know who Jesus is that’s a moot point .

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is the only place where the father son and Holy Ghost are one the only true revelation of the fulness of god bodily ( he eas born in the flesh ) Jesus the man is there for our example the children of God follow the son . This doesn’t change who he was and is and will be it’s like the trinity wirstion asking if Jesus raised himself or god did it

airs like asking who’s god is it the father ? Son or Holy Ghost ?

It’s not a real question when we know who Jesus is
 
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The question is who is Jesus ? Is he god ? Is Jesus a different person from The father and Holy Ghost ?

If we understand Jesus is the fulness of the godhead in one body the question goes away and becomes nonsense did god raise Jesus up ? Or did Jesus raise himself up ? If we know who Jesus is that’s a moot point .

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is the only place where the father son and Holy Ghost are one the only true revelation of the fulness of god bodily ( he eas born in the flesh ) Jesus the man is there for our example the children of God follow the son . This doesn’t change who he was and is and will be it’s like the trinity wirstion asking if Jesus raised himself or god did it

airs like asking who’s god is it the father ? Son or Holy Ghost ?

It’s not a real question when we know who Jesus is
He accomplished our Salvation as a Man. He had to in order to suffer death for us. He suffered as a Man.
 

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Understanding another's offense can be helpful, but making allowance for it is biblical. So whether we understand or not, we should try to accommodate it.
Yes brother very wise words . I don’t really have the ability today to be reasonable about an offense someone took because I capitalize letters and I don’t know if I’d ever have the fortitude to take that as an actual offense even o. Thoer part

at his person eas upset because of the other post o wrote about Jesus being god if you read his conversation you can see the offense was from before and he just came here to argue. Because I do t call god “ Yahweh” and because I I derrrsnd god revealed his name in the gospel because I shared those scriptures of him In Heaven before he was born in earth sayong he would come and become flesh and become man’s intercessor because there was no man worthy

that’s where the actual offense is from the capitalization is an excuse to argue . And I don’t have time to do that with anyone. I’d rather talk about the Bible in a Bible discussion forum and I mean this sincerely if anyone has an issue with how I write there are times of other posts with great grammar to interact with.

thisnplace is really a conundrum there are a few people here I always love hero g from and reading thier wrotongs to consider , then there are others who seem to only be here in order to try to come up with an argument no matter what you’ve said or who you are that said it

a person can just simply put a few scriptures clear and plain in a post and say nothing and the argument is guaranteed to come quickly ot doesn’t matter the subject the intent whether there are capitals or not lol it’s a spirit here in almost to the point of looking for a different place to talk about the Bible if I knew how to operate the internet better I would lol idk really it’s exhausting to argue over silly things constantly just drains spirit from hearts wonder slot if we do more damage than good here . But there’s such potential and encouragement from some here lord of love and peace from others fellowship and laughter ….. but there’s like a big clump of mud in the clean water too it’s a conundrum

aid I do disappear anytime soon brother I want you to know you’ve been a blessing to my heart here in many ways and I’ve read I think about every post tou e wrotten along with a few other peoples and it’s been a wonderful benefit .
 
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The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were all involved with the resurrection of Christ. Could He have raised Himself alone? Absolutely. The Father had given Him this power and authority.
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. (John 2:19=21)

At the same time, several verses say that God raised Him up.
As replied to another of you posts in another thread. The Son did the being raised part. His obedience and Faith saved Him and His Father raised Him through the Eternal Spirit. That was the proof that He is the sinless Son of YAH Who fully obeyed the law by giving His life to save us as the Father and the law required of Him. He was raised by His Father according to the promise of life in the law to Him which He had complete confidence and faith in.
 

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He accomplished our Salvation as a Man. He had to in order to suffer death for us. He suffered as a Man.
yeah God became a man in order to create a worthy man To intercede for us . It’s not a different man ot God become a man remember when god crested man in his image ? Jesusnis god created in mans image In Order to redeem mankind from sin and death whats your point there we agree Jesus had to become a man in order to do this

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;

that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there’s no disagreement with that in anything I’ve ever said Jesus was fully a man and he is fully God . He is God become one of us In Order to create a perfect intercessor for our sins a perfect high priest that lives forever

God isn’t just one person or thing he’s not only the father , not only the son , not only the Holy Ghost those are all part of the same God the same person he’s all we need from our sacrifice to our shepherd and teacher to our high priest To our God

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6‬ ‭

she isn’t just the son , or just the prince of peace , isn’t just the everlasting father , isn’t just the wonderful counsellor he’s all of those in one manifest in the body of Jesus our lord

The son of God is the full Manifestation of the true God and his name is Jesus or “ yeshua “ if someone insists on Hebrew pronounciatuon the gospel is how we can know God in truth

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20-

He’s just one bit he’s everything we can need not just one aspect he isn’t just in his throne in heaven he the same one also lives in the hearts of believers by his spirit he isn’t just a man who died on a cross one day, he is the creator of all things and was before and will be after when he became flesh ot was just for a purpose to redeem us to teach us the truth of gods words

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We tend to limit god as one thing but he became everything in Christ

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:15-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There’s a reason the New Testament is all about Jesus the lord
 
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evyaniy

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So he can pop off huge posts like that in a matter of minutes but cannot pay attention to using caps when referring to Elohim.
 

Pilgrimshope

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i have always found it amusing to hear someone claim miracles, through Faith, no longer work as they did in the Bible. and literally two breathes later, mention how someone was diagnosed with Cancer had prayer and went back to learn the Cancer had vanished. and their rebuttal was, it was not instant. Really? just because there was a few days between Prayer and Medical Exam, actually only gives more room for doubt. So more probable than anything else, the Miracle, was like the Bible and instant.

I also believe, since i do believe, since i am more than just convinced but would step out into faith any time due to personal experience of myself and others i witnessed. i and those who believe in this Area like i do, probably do see more Miracles than others if they think it has ended. why would God show them something they don't think exists? God, would be wasting His time. But to those who do believe, i see things that continually just confirm His Power. i couldn't ask for more.
amen the more of Jesus words in the gospel we take in bekieving . the more faith is going to grow and become solid not shifting back and forth . When we realize gods word is th e source of faith ot becomes about hearing and letting him work in us until we no longer shift and sink

“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We know how god works he speaks and it is so this even works inside of us to rod our hearts and minds of sin and corruption

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if God says something and we hear and believe and act on it faith will be so just like anytime God speaks it is irrevocable

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That is the key understanding what god speaks cannot fail. But if we try to stray from his word our faith becomes irrelevant and won’t bring anything to pass because it’s based upon what he the creator declared

faith is to hear and believe what God said is true and will happen to the point you live as if it’s true
 

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So he can pop off huge posts like that in a matter of minutes but cannot pay attention to using caps when referring to Elohim.
Get over the caps lol I’ve told you I’m. It going to change how I wrote because you complain while you ignore everything said and complain about caps and how I’m avoiding some yes or no question that is t even a real question . To be clear again I write how I write you have the choice to read and interact or not that’s on you your choice I wrote how I write it has absolutely nothing to do with you maybe reading and so I’m trying to offend you I don’t even know you I’ve read a few of your posts and moved on because I didn’t really understand your points

that’s not an insult it’s me trying to get a point across to you . You complaining about how I write is not relevant to me , the solution of your so bothered by how I write is to find a post where you like and approve of how the person writes . This is an irrelevant waste of time
 

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It is actually your blatant errors and smart aleck attitude that is what is galling

The scars might be on yourself when a person considers how badly you are off target. You do not really want to discuss..it seems you fancy yourself a teacher and if so, let me congratulate you on being a false teacher
Alrighty well like I said to the other person move on and find some post you can agree with and someone who doesn’t use any capitols seems like the nature and wise thing to do , and certainly wouldn’t be an offense to me it would actually be a blessing to avoid the silly arguing and would allow me to speak to other people who came here to talk about the Bible

a now I’m sure this is a “ smart Alec” response but it’s actually what I’m saying and is t meant to offend you or anyone else . If I was offended by someone’s spelling or grammar or even if I thought hey this guys just a trouble maker “ I would just move past to the person I thought “ hey this guy has some stuff he’s saying that I’d like to discuss “

that way I don’t have to create arguments about capitol letters . But that’s just a suggestion it seems like the solution would be to find constructive posts if you have issues with one . Seems like good sound advice
 

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Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

There is no such thing as blind faith in the bible.
Right but what pauls saying there is found in the whole section

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:13-17‬ ‭

awe have to hear the word God spoke and sent to us in order to believe the faith is in the gospel he sent out

How can we believe in him if we don’t hear this

The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

How can we believe what baptism is for unless we hear this ?

“John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. And there went out unto him all the land of Judæa, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

How can we believe the lords word unless we do this ?

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

He said let there be light and it was so “ he said hear my words and believe in God who sent me and you will
Not be condemned but have passed from certain death into everlasting life and it is so “

“But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭

god has spoken to us all in the gospel to every believer and non believer he has spoken his words are true both the blessings and the dire warnings to repent and obey him that word spoken by our lord will never change or be altered never end or pass away and it will always save anyone who first hears and believes it because of they hear the truth they will follow it if they believe it leads you exactly where you need to go , out of sin and death and I tonthe arms of a living and eternal God who has life planned for believers

The word of the lord Jesus Christ is salvation for any and all men it’s why the gospel has to be preached to every creature in existence even if they ignore it so that thier condemnation will be justified and of thier own making not gods God designed a plan of salvstion and said believe and be saved now go tell everyone else the same things I told you and they will be saved who believe and ( are baptized in my name for remission of sins )

The rest of the bu me is built upon the foundation of the gospel wrotten and wotnessed in Matthew mark Luke and John from Jesus birth to his resurrection and all in between that he revealed to mankind while in the flesh in order to save us eternally after we part the body of this world
 
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#52
it's much easier to look at it this way:

GOD is the Father [SPIRIT]
when GOD wants to be a part of His Creation, "He becomes" Physical by sending His [WORD made flesh] (SPIRIT + flesh)
how GOD wants to live in His Creation, He connects us by filling us with His Spirit [SPIRIT] that He sends.


the Whole Being of God and how He "functions," depends upon the Purpose and the Why of how God is manifesting His Will into existence... based upon the Role He chooses to Be, at any given time..
 

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“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;

that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things

Hebrews 2:14-16
:)
 

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I don’t care if you like how I write...
im just an old man who wrote a post
I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but this made me rofl and spit up some of my coffee.

Thanks for brightening up my day.
: )

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Pilgrimshope

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Amen it’s wondrous to look into the heavens in the ot and see or rather hear by faith what he was planning and seeing and saying he would do later when he came

“And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun.

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and ( also ) unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:16-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

My spirit that I shall in the future put upon thee and my words I will put in your mouths ( preach the gospel to everyone ) are my covenant forever.

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.

So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; ( whosoever believeth not ) which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them ( those who heard him ) witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭

Because that’s the covenant he foretold in the ot he would come and speak

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make ( future tense ) an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:3‬ ‭

fulfillment

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

it’s him Jesus is the almighty God who created all things and came to redeem us with his flesh and blood and his words of truth and life and salvstion that we only need hear and accept as truth believing
 

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I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but this made me rofl and spit up some of my coffee.

Thanks for brightening up my day.
: )

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Lol I forgot what was going on brother something about capitalizing letters or some such thing I hope you didn’t spit up on your device 😀
 

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“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting
life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

it’s him Jesus is the almighty God who created all things and came to redeem us with his flesh and blood
and his words of truth and life and salvation that we only need hear and accept as truth believing

John 5:24
:)
 

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amen

“Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations. The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

….For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:1-2, 6-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore ( David ) being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; he seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:30-33, 36‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-2, 10, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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amen

“Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations. The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

Matthew 14:27 + Isaiah 9:2
:)
 

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….For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:1-2, 6-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Isaiah 9:6
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