Faith

[evyaniy]

If you knew with what great difficulty Pilgrimshope communicated and were aware of his great reverence for God, you might be more gracious.

He can obviously use Caps when He wants and also highlight words and increase test size etc. Capitalization is not beyond His ability. He chooses not to for some reason. He can pop off 5 long posts in a few minutes. He can take the time to try to be non-offensive to other believers with intentional non-caps when referring to YAH.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Could you please get your caps corrected. Your posts are hard to read with the offensive non-capitalization when referring to the Most High. How can you not realize that could be offensive to people?

so why are you here arguing with me haha ? Move on if you have an issue im. NOt here to please you friend find someone who says what you want then to say and writes how you want then to write it seems a really simple solution

 

[evyaniy]

Solve this mystery not by reason but let scripture conclude this mystery that’s very clearly stated by the way

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

who was manifest in the flesh and received up into glory ? What’s his name in the Bible ? Who is the person that is god made flesh ?

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. …..And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Who is the word made flesh ?

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21-23‬ ‭

And who was received up into glory ?

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

jesus is god reaching into this world to save us but consider the mystery Paul speaks of there and I bet you come to the conclusion he’s talking about Jesus the Christ

Again, avoidance of the direct question. As well as intentional non-caps.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

He can obviously use Caps when He wants and also highlight words and increase test size etc. Capitalization is not beyond His ability. He chooses not to for some reason. He can pop off 5 long posts in a few minutes. He can take the time to try to be non-offensive to other believers with intentional non-caps when referring to YAH.

Yeah I can communicate as good as anyone else can here lol I write how o write if you want to come discuss something I wrote get over how its written or just find another post to talk about

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Again, avoidance of the direct question. As well as intentional non-caps.

Thanks for wasting some time imna move on lol …….

 

[evyaniy]

so why are you here arguing with me haha ? Move on if you have an issue im. NOt here to please you friend find someone who says what you want then to say and writes how you want then to write it seems a really simple solution

Fine. Hardly read your posts anymore anyhow. and with the intentional non-caps it can be disturbing to try. bye

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Again, avoidance of the direct question. As well as intentional non-caps.[/QUOTE

He can obviously use Caps when He wants and also highlight words and increase test size etc. Capitalization is not beyond His ability. He chooses not to for some reason. He can pop off 5 long posts in a few minutes. He can take the time to try to be non-offensive to other believers with intentional non-caps when referring to YAH.

Whos yah ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Fine. Hardly read your posts anymore anyhow. and with the intentional non-caps it can be disturbing to try. bye

Amen That’s perfect it will save me wasted time on silly arguing

 

[evyaniy]

i got my slider working better but the caps are just me adjusting for what’s not being read lol

It's not a joke. Sorry you think it is. It was an honest request for some respect for others.

 

[Niki7]

Also you can post in the threads where specific subjects are being discussed instead of using a clandestine post in an unrelated thread to dispute something that was posted somewhere else.

oh don't you know?

that's a favorite tactic of folks who need to be right for their own peace of mind...never mind that they are wrong...it's all about how
they see things.....God forbid someone would ever have to have light shed on their pet theories or their wrong interpretations

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It's not a joke. Sorry you think it is. It was an honest request for some respect for others.

I don’t disrespect anyone here I probably have you at this point in this thread but honestly I’d say you came here to provoke that just reading your post . But frankly I don’t care if you like how I write it doesn’t mean anything in any way to me . That’s just the truth not an insult it’s just irrelevant to me

If you want to take someone emboldening or capitalizing letters as offensive go for it , what does that have to do with me ?

aim just an old man who wrote a post about faith hoping to discuss faith with someone who might have some other scriptures about faith

anything else was never my intent or action . But again I’m going to drop this thread now it’s been detailed like every thread ever posted lol

Take care though sorry for capitalizing letters I know that can really leave scars on a soul

 

[evyaniy]

let's take a poll. Who is offended when a reference to the Creator or His Name or His Son or His Son's Name is not capitalized in a post?

 

[Dino246]

Faith is indeed foundational for a right relationship with God, but faith is distinct from knowledge. There is no biblical support for the idea that God "had faith" that His words would be effectual. “


God word is the source of faith he’s the creator is the point he is the source of faith when he speaks

Light didn’t exist until he spoke it …..everything he’s done in scripture he’s done by his word and his word spoken To men …..I’m sure that God has perfect faith , but he is the source of faith is the point his word is faith we have to hear what he said in order for us to have faith

We can pretend he said something and it will never come to pass , he has to actually say it is the point it isn’t faith if we reject what Jesus said and claim we have faith

the operation of faith mirrors Gods creation

“For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭11:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s faith and it’s how God created the world he spoke creation o to existance by faith I do t think there’s anything controversial about that

Simply we have to hear the word of God in order to have faith because that’s the source of faith d the effectual power of God

“who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


God spoke creation into existance tha ta in genesis , his word in the gospel is the same power to be fulfilled that’s how we can be saved

Your argument is circular and pointless. God gives faith, but He does not exercise it.

Faith is indeed foundational for a right relationship with God, but faith is distinct from knowledge. There is no biblical support for the idea that God "had faith" that His words would be effectual. “


God word is the source of faith he’s the creator is the point he is the source of faith when he speaks

Light didn’t exist until he spoke it …..everything he’s done in scripture he’s done by his word and his word spoken To men …..I’m sure that God has perfect faith , but he is the source of faith is the point his word is faith we have to hear what he said in order for us to have faith

We can pretend he said something and it will never come to pass , he has to actually say it is the point it isn’t faith if we reject what Jesus said and claim we have faith

the operation of faith mirrors Gods creation

“For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭11:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s faith and it’s how God created the world he spoke creation o to existance by faith I do t think there’s anything controversial about that

Simply we have to hear the word of God in order to have faith because that’s the source of faith d the effectual power of God

“who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


God spoke creation into existance tha ta in genesis , his word in the gospel is the same power to be fulfilled that’s how we can be saved

"God is the source of faith he's the creator is the point he is the source of faith when he speaks"

If your punctuation-devoid word collection is interpreted as you intend it, you believe that God exercises faith when He speaks. That's not supported by any Scripture.

God did not "create by faith". He created by His word. They are not the same thing!

You are confusing our response to God's words with the words themselves.

Hebrews 11:3 states that we understand through faith, not God created through faith.

 

[Niki7]

Take care though sorry for capitalizing letters I know that can really leave scars on a soul

It is actually your blatant errors and smart aleck attitude that is what is galling

The scars might be on yourself when a person considers how badly you are off target. You do not really want to discuss..it seems you fancy yourself a teacher and if so, let me congratulate you on being a false teacher

 

[Cameron143]

He can obviously use Caps when He wants and also highlight words and increase test size etc. Capitalization is not beyond His ability. He chooses not to for some reason. He can pop off 5 long posts in a few minutes. He can take the time to try to be non-offensive to other believers with intentional non-caps when referring to YAH.

You don't understand his condition or his love of the Lord. You can think you do and be offended or you can hear what I'm saying and give grace. There is no intentional harm directed at you. And even if there were, Jesus taught us to love our enemies and bless, do good, and pray for them. Clearly you are offended. I wonder have you loved, blessed, done good, or prayed?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Who raised the Son from the dead. Did He raise Himself or did His Father raise Him because of His obedience and Faith?

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were all involved with the resurrection of Christ. Could He have raised Himself alone? Absolutely. The Father had given Him this power and authority.
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. (John 2:19=21)

At the same time, several verses say that God raised Him up.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Your argument is circular and pointless. God gives faith, but He does not exercise it.

"God is the source of faith he's the creator is the point he is the source of faith when he speaks"

If your punctuation-devoid word collection is interpreted as you intend it, you believe that God exercises faith when He speaks. That's not supported by any Scripture.

God did not "create by faith". He created by His word. They are not the same thing!

You are confusing our response to God's words with the words themselves.

Hebrews 11:3 states that we understand through faith, not God created through faith.

Your argument is circular and pointless. God gives faith, but He does not exercise it.

ok I reckon god has no faith …..and his word isn’t the source of faith

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You don't understand his condition or his love of the Lord. You can think you do and be offended or you can hear what I'm saying and give grace. There is no intentional harm directed at you. And even if there were, Jesus taught us to love our enemies and bless, do good, and pray for them. Clearly you are offended. I wonder have you loved, blessed, done good, or prayed?

ayes brother but who’s ever actually been offended by capitalized letters ? Is it like an internet fopa? To capitalize something you’re highlighting and discussing ? I don’t get that offense honestly if we’re going to be offended by a capital letter it’s frankly maturity issue in my opinion but I am having a grumpy day thus far so probably just the old man hormones but after considering I still don’t see any offense and just can’t get behind the whole capitalized offense I feel like it’s a skit

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

i have always found it amusing to hear someone claim miracles, through Faith, no longer work as they did in the Bible. and literally two breathes later, mention how someone was diagnosed with Cancer had prayer and went back to learn the Cancer had vanished. and their rebuttal was, it was not instant. Really? just because there was a few days between Prayer and Medical Exam, actually only gives more room for doubt. So more probable than anything else, the Miracle, was like the Bible and instant.

I also believe, since i do believe, since i am more than just convinced but would step out into faith any time due to personal experience of myself and others i witnessed. i and those who believe in this Area like i do, probably do see more Miracles than others if they think it has ended. why would God show them something they don't think exists? God, would be wasting His time. But to those who do believe, i see things that continually just confirm His Power. i couldn't ask for more.

 

[Cameron143]

ayes brother but who’s ever actually been offended by capitalized letters ? Is it like an internet fopa? To capitalize something you’re highlighting and discussing ? I don’t get that offense honestly if we’re going to be offended by a capital letter it’s frankly maturity issue in my opinion but I am having a grumpy day thus far so probably just the old man hormones but after considering I still don’t see any offense and just can’t get behind the whole capitalized offense I feel like it’s a skit

Understanding another's offense can be helpful, but making allowance for it is biblical. So whether we understand or not, we should try to accommodate it.