T H E G R E A T E S T H Y P O C R I S Y ! ! !

Edify · Sep 8, 2023

Listen carefully to what I am about to say....
The greatest hypocrisy in the church are those with well-intentioned actions in church that preach, teach, & worship as if they are legitimately spiritual, but are not. Well-intentioned because they want to do the right things, worship the right way, teach/preach the right way, & be spiritual like they should be or used to be. But they are not/no longer the spiritual person they used to be. They can not/no longer get Spirit-inspired messages from God. They are not/no longer anointed by the Holy Spirit to do so. They go to the internet or the bookstore to find sermons & subjects to minister. Instead of the anointing of the Spirit leading them, they parrot their favorite preachers & teachers. I understand there are some who sometimes go thru dry spells & go to a book, or sometimes are lead to do so, but this is not what I'm talking about. It's about those who are with good intentions that are faking it, hoping to get back to where they used to be but never do. Because of this, they bring popular teachings into their church that are not of God. Because they cannot spiritually discern, they bring demonic heresies into God's house & feed them to His lambs.

Edify · Sep 8, 2023

Continued...
The same people can't truly worship God during praise & worship because they can no longer discern the difference between spiritual praise & excitement. So what do they do? They borrow from the popular worship leaders on the internet, who they don't really know, but because everyone likes them use their songs & music to worship by without knowing that they are the servants of Satan, feeding their flesh.

Edify · Sep 8, 2023

It is not my intention to get christians to doubt their ministers or their salvation. My sincere desire is to get people to prove whether or not these things exist in their own churches.
Don't simply take it for granted that it isn't, as if you're magically protected from it.
In order for the Falling Away to be so predominate in these last days, somebody has to be wrong. As a christian, you deserve to know whether or not it's true about your church. I know for a fact it's in my church, and I'm praying about it, especially for my wife & I that we stay alert to everything that's going on & not be lulled to sleep about it.

ResidentAlien · Sep 9, 2023

Edify said:

Listen carefully to what I am about to say....
The greatest hypocrisy in the church are those with well-intentioned actions in church that preach, teach, & worship as if they are legitimately spiritual, but are not. Well-intentioned because they want to do the right things, worship the right way, teach/preach the right way, & be spiritual like they should be or used to be. But they are not/no longer the spiritual person they used to be. They can not/no longer get Spirit-inspired messages from God. They are not/no longer anointed by the Holy Spirit to do so. They go to the internet or the bookstore to find sermons & subjects to minister. Instead of the anointing of the Spirit leading them, they parrot their favorite preachers & teachers. I understand there are some who sometimes go thru dry spells & go to a book, or sometimes are lead to do so, but this is not what I'm talking about. It's about those who are with good intentions that are faking it, hoping to get back to where they used to be but never do. Because of this, they bring popular teachings into their church that are not of God. Because they cannot spiritually discern, they bring demonic heresies into God's house & feed them to His lambs.

Why do you feel you're qualified to make such sweeping pronouncements? Not saying you aren't, just asking.

Evmur · Sep 9, 2023

Edify said:

Listen carefully to what I am about to say....
The greatest hypocrisy in the church are those with well-intentioned actions in church that preach, teach, & worship as if they are legitimately spiritual, but are not. Well-intentioned because they want to do the right things, worship the right way, teach/preach the right way, & be spiritual like they should be or used to be. But they are not/no longer the spiritual person they used to be. They can not/no longer get Spirit-inspired messages from God. They are not/no longer anointed by the Holy Spirit to do so. They go to the internet or the bookstore to find sermons & subjects to minister. Instead of the anointing of the Spirit leading them, they parrot their favorite preachers & teachers. I understand there are some who sometimes go thru dry spells & go to a book, or sometimes are lead to do so, but this is not what I'm talking about. It's about those who are with good intentions that are faking it, hoping to get back to where they used to be but never do. Because of this, they bring popular teachings into their church that are not of God. Because they cannot spiritually discern, they bring demonic heresies into God's house & feed them to His lambs.

Be a gentle person to all such.

Edify · Sep 9, 2023

ResidentAlien said:

Please understand, I don't feel the least qualified neither does this bring me any happiness whatsoever.

Edify · Sep 9, 2023

Evmur said:

There is no way to do this gently, I wish there was.
I was watching a video on the internet, & the beginning of this came upon me & at first I didn't know what to do with it. The more it went over & over in my mind, the more I felt the need to type it out, so I did. The more I typed, the more it came.

I know what it sounds like, but this is as much for me as anyone else. The very thing the Lord showed me is already happening in my church.
The truth remains.... there's a whole lot of faking going on in ministry. Trying to keep up with the big preachers & the mega churches. They ought to be fearing the Lord & investigate what they're copying.

Tall_Timbers · Sep 9, 2023

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Matthew 7:5

williamjordan · Sep 9, 2023

I L O V E A T I T L E W I T H S P A C I N G, or... w I t H s P a C i N g

Some of this stuff will make a person go cross-eyed. Friendly reminder: I don't need your help. As if the content wasn't enough!

ResidentAlien · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

Good, I don't have to listen to you then.

Evmur · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

Sometimes preachers are big for a reason and churches become mega because the multitudes are being blest by them. Jesus and the apostles had megachurch.

It is not always so of course. And with popularity and success [in church terms] comes great temptation, and I want to say something, the closer you get to God the more softly must you tread. It is on the front lines of the battle where the most danger is ... are you praying for leaders as you should?

But we also have individual responsibility for who will listen to and who we will allow to minister to us. Whose vids we listen to, whose books we will read.

Above all if we love the Lord, we will love His word and we will love His truth. And we will find fellowship with folks who are like minded.

It is very easy to crush people ... therefore be sensitive.

Edify · Sep 10, 2023

Evmur said:

I agree, thank you.
I knew when I first read over this it was going to be an uphill battle. I suspected also the haters would come out in droves, but so far not too bad.
There is more to this, & I have to continue. But I have to say this: When I agreed to post this, I didn't worry about who would be offended or who would lash out. I have genuine peace with it. Such peace can only be from the Lord.
Thank you again for your kind words.

Edify · Sep 10, 2023

williamjordan said:

When I typed the title, I double-spaced between words for clarity. It took hours to be posted, & when I saw it, I tried to change it, but it was too late.

Edify · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

You might say, How can they do such a thing? They don't search the scriptures to prove the doctrines they teach. They don't "seriously" pray to God about their P&W songs to confirm whether they are of God. "If it feels good, that's good enough", or "A brother / sister I know recommended it, & I know they are spiritually in tune with God".

So tell me, how can leaders know who's holy & who isn't if they can no longer discern the Spirit of God from the spirit of the devil?

montana123 · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

If you are referring to the falling away in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 it is not the Church.

Jesus said the gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church so the Church can never fall away.

Hypocrites do not change Christianity, nor do they void it out, and Jesus said the hypocrites do not belong to the Church.

So their hypocrisy cannot altar the Church because they do not belong to the Church.

The only people that can belong to the Church is people who act Christlike led by the Spirit so the Church can never fall away, although the Bible says that there will be a lot of hypocritical people claiming Christianity.

Paul said that that the gathering of the saints shall not happen until there is a falling away first, and the man of sin/New Age Christ claims to be God which he will convince the world that he evolved to be spiritual, and a god, which he will say it is by the power of Lucifer.

The falling away is the condition of the world in response to the Gospel which they stopped the preaching of it, and the belief in a personal God, on a world wide scale all nations working together for peace on earth, and nothing can be taught contrary to the new age movement interpretation of the Bible.

Which the Bible says the time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts the new age movement to evolve to be spiritual, and a god.

When the new age movement is in effect for three and one half years then the transgressors shall come to the full, and then the man of sin/New Age Christ shall rule over them.

Edify · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

I am not on the outside of this. I had to pray & search my own heart about these things. We all have to be on watch & guard our hearts.
As a watchman on the wall, what would be my judgment if I didn't post this?
Jesus told us to "watch and pray" .

Mark13:33Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. 34It is as when a man, sojourning in another country, having left his house, and given authority to his servants, to each one his work, commanded also the porter to watch. 35Watch therefore: for ye know not when the lord of the house cometh, whether at even, or at midnight, or at cockcrowing, or in the morning; 36lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Luke 12:
35Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

39And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Blain · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

I cannot say I am in the right even by most of the time, but as far as I have seen we tend to overcomplicate everything we rely on our logic and understanding of the scripture but it doesn't bring what the faith of a child does.

He said for us to be like the children that came to him when he said that what did he mean? what was so profound about that?

It it because the heart of a child connects and reasonates with him much easier than that of a biblical scholar everyone is for the scripture but without the right heart which decides everything about you and about the life we live all your going to see is what you already see.

The heart decides everything we build up all this supposed understandiong all this wisdom and doctrine truth yet if a child was exposed to him they don't overcomplicate it they don't try to use scripture in an abvious unwarrented way that you see all the time they wouldn't be false prophets and even just many adults forget how it is to be a child when simply and without cause we are more pure hearted niave maybe but we accept the truth much easier.

He has a soft spot for children and even calls us his children tell that a 43 year old man. seek such a heart seek that kind of connection with him remember what is to be childlike before him being adult leads one to be logical what is called mature and wise yet honestly even as adults we are basically children we still struggle with who we are our purpose and reason for being we still seek understanding from others we still lash out in tantrums we do everything a child would just in a more adult like manner which isn't good especially with alchohal and drugs people go this because they are not ok inside

A child however like I said doesn't overcomplicate things they take truth that is given to them much easier than a grown adult the simple sense of feeling his warmth brings that child out of you he seems to have a deep connection with those who love and adore him serve and even exist as a child

posthuman · Sep 10, 2023

Edify said:

We don't see congregations with a single pastor in the NT or for a long time in the early church - we see groups of coequal elders with more than one person teaching and/or preaching.

part of the reason we see ineffective, empty and even sometimes flatly wrong sermons sometimes is IMO because we've moved to a model where one man is shouldering all the responsibility and authority in a local church, giving weekly speeches where it is presumed that everyone else simply sits and listens and has no input to edifying or exhorting the whole

Pilgrimshope · Sep 10, 2023

It seems like we have opinions of other people and what they say . We then compare it to what we think and believe . And then if what they said doesn’t agree with what we have thought and been convinced of right or wrong the other person is a fake or a heretic

it could be that not one Christian actually has it all figured out , and they actually need To listen to each other and hear and then as a person considers and sees scripture they will be able to know of the new thing they are hearing is i Kline with scriptire .

a lot of times we just think we have the answers already and we can’t acknolwedge we’re still learning new things we hadn’t seen before . I remember back being 25 yrs old . I thought I had alot of thkngs figured out but when I was 50 I realized I was young and proud and hadn’t really known much .

things I know now would have not made sense then , Christian’s should listen to each other and consider what is being said carefully before we go into lynch mode when someone says something we haven’t heard yet . It isn’t always cooky sometimes it’s just something we hadn’t heard about or maybe we heard wrong before .

If there’s no way to approach people who disagree like this we can’t really take the position of the mature one

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if we can’t do that we end up here

“I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

sometimes the milk drinkers think solid food is a heresy but it’s because of this

“For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5:12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There are young minds in Christ and there are old minds in him they don’t understand the same things one is struggling with basics the other is growing up

Patience and consideration is the way

NightTwister · Sep 10, 2023

The road is narrow, but it's not a tightrope.

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