Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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shittim

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We have failed to keep our Churches, schools, republic, from being corrupted.
He is giving us an opportunity to repent and return, nationally and individually.
best wishes:)(y)
 

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Evil---profoundly immoral and wicked, especially in one's actions.
This is what I see in Trump.
I guess others do not.
Well you keep saying this but you offer no evidence or proof that would put him in the same category as Stalin?
What are Trumps actions and how many are there that bring him to the same level as the evil men of history?
 
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SanderB

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Evil---profoundly immoral and wicked, especially in one's actions.
This is what I see in Trump.
I guess others do not.
The best way for evil to enter this world is via stealth and manipulation. It seems that Trump is using those tactics to manipulate Americans to slowly turn away from God's morals. The old-school GOP wasn't as toxic like this before the mid-2010s. Same with the Democrats before the mid-2010s. Now Reagan had his problems with Reaganomics, and Bill Cinton with his vile actions behind the scenes as well as allowing everything to be made in China, but at least both of them didn't incite violence (like our former president did back in 2021).
 

DRobinson

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If His Own don't see what you see, does that say anything to you?
best wishes
Many of "His Own" are deceived.
Not the first time and will not be the last.
I would never suggest that those who see this issue different than I do as not being one of "His Own" as your post suggests.

Time to let this horse lay.
 
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The best way for evil to enter this world is via stealth and manipulation. It seems that Trump is using those tactics to manipulate Americans to slowly turn away from God's morals. The old-school GOP wasn't as toxic like this before the mid-2010s. Same with the Democrats before the mid-2010s. Now Reagan had his problems with Reaganomics, and Bill Cinton with his vile actions behind the scenes as well as allowing everything to be made in China, but at least both of them didn't incite violence (like our former president did back in 2021).
I was actually there, the Devil's children are lying to you about Jan 6th, but then again, that is what they do. Deceived they go a deceiving until the day my God throws them into the eternally burning lake, PRAISE JESUS!
 

ZNP

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Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look,

This is the on ramp. Hard for anyone to run for president that doesn't have a proud look. I think everyone will agree that Trump has a proud look, but I also remember Biden talking about beating up Trump and beating him in a race, etc. I remember the whole "if you don't vote for me you ain't black". So there are plenty of proud looks on both sides.

a lying tongue,

What stands out to me are the things Trump said that I assumed were a lie but weren't. He said he would make peace with Israel, I thought no way! He said he would recognize Jerusalem, I thought "yeah, right, heard that before". He said he would appoint pro life judges and I thought "we'll see". On the other hand the lies Biden told are what still stand out today. He said he never talked to Hunter about his business. He said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. He said he never had anything to do with Hunter's business.

and hands that shed innocent blood,

Trump made that asinine comment about shooting a person on fifth avenue, but to my knowledge he did not shen innocent blood and instead did quite a bit to put a stop to it. He didn't get us into a war, he put an end to the Afghanistan war with a timetable to withdraw, he pushed for a border wall to cut down on human trafficking, and he appointed three pro life judges which overturned Roe V. Wade. Biden on the other hand opened wide our border, human trafficking has sky rocketed during his administration, fentanyl deaths have doubled during his presidency, his withdrawal from Afghanistan was a dismal failure, he gave the Taliban a list of people that cooperated with the US and which we can assume were tortured and killed, and he is getting us into WW3 with Russia, NATO, and the rest of the world.

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,

Nothing comes to mind with Trump, but Biden has three aliases with bank accounts that have received millions of dollars in bribes from foreign countries. He has labeled parents at school board meetings as domestic terrorists and he has labeled 75 million Americans who voted for Trump as domestic terrorists.

feet that be swift in running to mischief,

We have seen that when Biden needs to run to help someone he is slow as molasses. He still has not gone to East Palestine. His first and second reaction to the fire in Maui was "no comment". But when Hunter is about to be investigated by the Ukraine justice department he is over there in a flash threatening them with cutting off US foreign aid to them, which was illegal. When the Hunter Biden laptop is revealed we got a bunch of CIA operatives to say it was Russian disinformation and then Biden waved that letter around during the debate even though he knew it was a lie.

19 A false witness that speaketh lies,

Again, Trump made many promises that were hard to believe but he kept them. Biden on the other hand is full of lies. He tells us the economy is stronger than ever. He tells us the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a success. He lies about inflation. He lies about the war in Ukraine. He lies about the border.

and he that soweth discord among brethren.

I don't think the bulk of the blame for this should be given to either Trump or Biden. I think this is being orchestrated by the Deep State and perpetrated by the Media. The Deep State tells Youtube, Twitter and Facebook who to suspend and who to cancel and de platform. They tell the media what to say, and this is what is sowing discord among brethren.
 
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SanderB

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I was actually there, the Devil's children are lying to you about Jan 6th, but then again, that is what they do. Deceived they go a deceiving until the day my God throws them into the eternally burning lake, PRAISE JESUS!
So, let's try it a different way. Say that this day in 2021 was good for America, and helped raise awareness about corruption, and was a peaceful demonstration. If this was a supposedly peaceful protest, then how come dozens of people were hurt or even fatally injured in those acts of violence committed in DC that day?

Since January 2021 had people get hurt, then one could assume that the protest was violent.
 

ZNP

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So, let's try it a different way. Say that this day in 2021 was good for America, and helped raise awareness about corruption, and was a peaceful demonstration. If this was a supposedly peaceful protest, then how come dozens of people were hurt or even fatally injured in those acts of violence committed in DC that day?

Since January 2021 had people get hurt, then one could assume that the protest was violent.
The only people killed that day were killed by the police.

They claimed a policeman was killed but he wasn't, he died of natural causes not related to anything that happened at the protest.

So there may have been "dozens of people hurt" but were they hurt bad enough to go the hospital? I don't know, asking the question. The only people I do know of were a woman that was killed by police inaction and Ashli Babbit killed by police shooting her.
 
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Pence is weak and DeSantis is cringey. Nikki Haley looking strong though. If she keeps holding strong the way she did in the debate then Trump should certainly pick her for VP.
Whichever one Trump feels Is most loyal to him will probably be vice president and not whoever happens to be the smartest.What If he chooses Chris Christie?lol
 

ZNP

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Whichever one Trump feels Is most loyal to him will probably be vice president and not whoever happens to be the smartest.What If he chooses Chris Christie?lol
Did you hear his interview? He is not picking Chris Christie. Kari Lake is a possibility. RFK is another possiblity.
 
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So, let's try it a different way. Say that this day in 2021 was good for America, and helped raise awareness about corruption, and was a peaceful demonstration. If this was a supposedly peaceful protest, then how come dozens of people were hurt or even fatally injured in those acts of violence committed in DC that day?

Since January 2021 had people get hurt, then one could assume that the protest was violent.
Because the Democrat mayor tried to bar the public from attending the public ceremony on the public ground. Also don't forget that the Democrats had killed 4 protestors and outright lie about it for years. Most of the protestors were elderly at that. We'll never trust Satan's children who rig an election and murder the public on public ground at a public ceremony. Everything about this current junta is riddled with lies, it is no wonder then every single thing they touch God curses, PRAISE JESUS!
 
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Whichever one Trump feels Is most loyal to him will probably be vice president and not whoever happens to be the smartest.What If he chooses Chris Christie?lol
I think it will be more or less a combination of how duplictous they are and how strong they are. In this case Christie is both duplictous and weak, so he certainly will not make it, Christie is angling to get some filthy lucre from the Democrats and that is very obvious. DeSantis has proven both weak and duplicitous he is nothing but a grifter so he has certainly been dropped from consideration. Obviously Pence is shamefully weak and only in it to try to rehabilitate his reputation (and he won't). This is where really at this point the shortlist is down to Nikki Haley, Vivek, and Tim Scott, with Haley currently looking quite strong.
 
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SanderB

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Because the Democrat mayor tried to bar the public from attending the public ceremony on the public ground. Also don't forget that the Democrats had killed 4 protestors and outright lie about it for years. Most of the protestors were elderly at that. We'll never trust Satan's children who rig an election and murder the public on public ground at a public ceremony. Everything about this current junta is riddled with lies, it is no wonder then every single thing they touch God curses, PRAISE JESUS!
Yes, that is true as well. Both parties are at fault here then. I'd vote for Bugs Bunny as a write-in at this point over anyone in either party.
 
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Yes, that is true as well. Both parties are at fault here then. I'd vote for Bugs Bunny as a write-in at this point over anyone in either party.
No, only one party serves Satan and rigged an election and murdered the protestors on public ground and lies about it and takes political prisoners, and that be Satan's children the Democrat Party. Cursed be all who enjoin with them, and cursed be everything they touch to make manifest their illegitimacy, in the name of the only True God, PRAISE JESUS
 
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The parties are doing their best to make themselves irrelevant to society. Maybe we need politicians who are willing to respect the Constitution and American values.
 

cv5

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rigged an election and murdered the protestors on public ground and lies about it and takes political prisoners
Yep. This is a fact of history at this point. No doubt about it.

Arresting defense lawyers and candidates who exercise their 1st amendment rights proves that this time is the among if not THE darkest of all times in American history IMO.
 

cv5

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The only people killed that day were killed by the police.

They claimed a policeman was killed but he wasn't, he died of natural causes not related to anything that happened at the protest.

So there may have been "dozens of people hurt" but were they hurt bad enough to go the hospital? I don't know, asking the question. The only people I do know of were a woman that was killed by police inaction and Ashli Babbit killed by police shooting her.
An insurrection led by FED moles and allowed to happen (by misinforming Capitol police etc) by other FED bad actors.
 

cv5

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Whichever one Trump feels Is most loyal to him will probably be vice president and not whoever happens to be the smartest.What If he chooses Chris Christie?lol
Oh I don't know about that. Look at Trumps other choices. All of them bad to worse.

Trump's failure to choose the right person for the job and surrounding himself with turncoats is his greatest weakness IMO.