A question about adultery

[hornetguy]

I just want Christians to stop hammering singles about "thinking about sex is a sin" or that masterbation is a sin, neither of them are. Some Christians have to use verses taken out of context to support their opinions. The message from the church should be what Paul and Jesus said, if you want to have sex, get married. Stop putting a guilt trip on singles about sex.

I hate to be the spelling/grammar police, but please..... it's masturbation.... with a "u"
unless you are really experienced at it, then I suppose you could be a "master" at it....
too many easy puns on this, but... there it is.

As a funny aside.... Warren Beatty is known for his, um... prodigious sexual appetites.... He and Jack Nicholson were pretty good friends, and Jack would regularly refer to him as "Master Beatty".....

 

[JohnB]

Another commandment is honor your father and your mother which was a really tough one but as I am about to die it occurs to me that in mine life they were the only ones who loved me. They always gave the better advice to me and the friends I had would laugh when we were talking and joke about the things we should do instead. It all made sense then that my father and my mother never said I should do this or that like other people do. It's like in all the things they were saying they were trying to keep me out of trouble and looking forward all the way to the judgement day. I knew then that other people might give ill advice with no regard towards looking forward to that end but my father and mother always did. Just makes too much sense now and it makes me wish I would have saw it in the beginning. I suppose it's because my father and mother loved me and the others did not and God was trying to show that to me all along.

That promise of "Honor thy mother and father, so that it may go well with you in the land" I had a bible teacher point out that is a promise in general. It does not apply to everyone.

I hate to be the spelling/grammar police, but please..... it's masturbation.... with a "u"
unless you are really experienced at it, then I suppose you could be a "master" at it....
too many easy puns on this, but... there it is.

As a funny aside.... Warren Beatty is known for his, um... prodigious sexual appetites.... He and Jack Nicholson were pretty good friends, and Jack would regularly refer to him as "Master Beatty".....

Blame the spell checker. LOL

 

[CS1]

GOD said the 2 shall become 1. That was before he said "Be fruitful and multiply" The Song of Solomon is a whole book about sex, not one mention of having children. If you have 3 or 4 kids do you stop having sex?

Adam was not born nor was Eve they were created.

The problem with your assertion about the SOng of S being all about sex, you fail to see the flesh has no good in it nor can be saved until the transformation. The idea of forcing on the flesh ( sex) over the love of those in courtship is to miss the real meaning of the book.

I think you have an issue. And the over-concern with sex in the book is very telling.

 

[CS1]

GOD said the 2 shall become 1. That was before he said "Be fruitful and multiply" The Song of Solomon is a whole book about sex, not one mention of having children. If you have 3 or 4 kids do you stop having sex?

again one's sex life is NONEYA.

 

[CS1]

I just want Christians to stop hammering singles about "thinking about sex is a sin" or that masterbation is a sin, neither of them are. Some Christians have to use verses taken out of context to support their opinions. The message from the church should be what Paul and Jesus said, if you want to have sex, get married. Stop putting a guilt trip on singles about sex.

anyone who speaks to children about Masturbating is 1. a child molester, 2. a pervert 3. should not be around children.


Self-gratification for many people turns into more inappropriate action. Pornography and those addicted to it when no longer satisfied with masturbating take it to the next level. Which leads to depravity. If you don't know that, you are ill-informed.

• voyeurism
• being coming to a "john"
• homosexuality
• rape

These are just a few things that Men who just were harmlessly masturbating as their mind was role-playing and fantasizing about
someone took it to the next level. The end result confirms the action as a sin. It is not praiseworthy! It doesn't Glory, God, whose eyes are everywhere. Jesus is coming, and one is self-gratifying. That will go over well, I'm sure.

Christian sex counselors will tell you of those coming out of Homosexuality where pornography and masturbation led to more greater perversion.

We are not in the time of old preachers who said it's ok to masturbate as long as it doesn't continue in the marriage.


IT DID! many Preachers were bound by pornography and still are. Many men continue this well into the years of being married.

Most hate it but are driven to it. You don't know what you are talking about, and the facts don't support you. Ask the many wives of Pastors who have no desire to have sex, yet the man does you force her to do it?

Threaten her she is using witchcraft? You are wrong, and the bedroom is still none of your concern with married: one man and one woman.

 

[JohnB]

anyone who speaks to children about Masturbating is 1. a child molester, 2. a pervert 3. should not be around children.


Self-gratification for many people turns into more inappropriate action. Pornography and those addicted to it when no longer satisfied with masturbating take it to the next level. Which leads to depravity. If you don't know that, you are ill-informed.

• voyeurism
• being coming to a "john"
• homosexuality
• rape

These are just a few things that Men who just were harmlessly masturbating as their mind was role-playing and fantasizing about
someone took it to the next level. The end result confirms the action as a sin. It is not praiseworthy! It doesn't Glory, God, whose eyes are everywhere. Jesus is coming, and one is self-gratifying. That will go over well, I'm sure.

Christian sex counselors will tell you of those coming out of Homosexuality where pornography and masturbation led to more greater perversion.

We are not in the time of old preachers who said it's ok to masturbate as long as it doesn't continue in the marriage.


IT DID! many Preachers were bound by pornography and still are. Many men continue this well into the years of being married.

Most hate it but are driven to it. You don't know what you are talking about, and the facts don't support you. Ask the many wives of Pastors who have no desire to have sex, yet the man does you force her to do it?

Threaten her she is using witchcraft? You are wrong, and the bedroom is still none of your concern with married: one man and one woman.

Do you actually study the bible or just spread fear to anyone who does not believe like you?

 

[JohnB]

again one's sex life is NONEYA.

Really, so adultery is ok, because it's no one's else's business what a person does in the bedroom.

 

[JohnB]

Adam was not born nor was Eve they were created.

The problem with your assertion about the SOng of S being all about sex, you fail to see the flesh has no good in it nor can be saved until the transformation. The idea of forcing on the flesh ( sex) over the love of those in courtship is to miss the real meaning of the book.

I think you have an issue. And the over-concern with sex in the book is very telling.

I have an issue with people spreading guilt and fear, like you. You're sounding more and more like a Pharisee.

 

[JohnB]

I once talked to a couple in my church. The husband said they had gone to a pastor about problems they were having in their marriage. The pastor said the reason they were having problems is because they had sex before they were married. I looked at the husband and said, "You two have been married for 10 years and have 3 kids. Of course your marriage has problems, all marriages do. It has nothing to do with you two having sex before you got married, 10 years ago." It was just unbelievable what the pastor told them. Just putting guilt on the couple.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I just want Christians to stop hammering singles about "thinking about sex is a sin" or that masterbation is a sin, neither of them are. Some Christians have to use verses taken out of context to support their opinions. The message from the church should be what Paul and Jesus said, if you want to have sex, get married. Stop putting a guilt trip on singles about sex.

Dude, have you ever masturbated to thinking about an ear of corn, or human being women?

Jesus said, to look at a Woman, with sexual intent in mind, is committing a SIN.

What do you do in masturbation, but think about the Woman with sexual intent in mind, like Jesus, COMMANDED us NOT to do!


You, are Rebellious to God!
That is the SAME as WITCHCRAFT!

 

[JohnB]

Dude, have you ever masturbated to thinking about an ear of corn, or human being women?

Jesus said, to look at a Woman, with sexual intent in mind, is committing a SIN.

What do you do in masturbation, but think about the Woman with sexual intent in mind, like Jesus, COMMANDED us NOT to do!


You, are Rebellious to God!
That is the SAME as WITCHCRAFT!

Jesus was talking about adultery, not fornication. Look at the context of what he said. Also it wasn't about just looking. The Greek word for "lust" mean to have an consuming intent. You're planning to have sex with a married woman. The Greek word for "woman" can mean single or married, depending on context. Clearly Jesus was talking about a MARRIED woman.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I once talked to a couple in my church. The husband said they had gone to a pastor about problems they were having in their marriage. The pastor said the reason they were having problems is because they had sex before they were married. I looked at the husband and said, "You two have been married for 10 years and have 3 kids. Of course your marriage has problems, all marriages do. It has nothing to do with you two having sex before you got married, 10 years ago." It was just unbelievable what the pastor told them. Just putting guilt on the couple.

If they were smart they'd listen to you. You da man: the sex answer man.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Jesus was talking about adultery, not fornication. Look at the context of what he said. Also it wasn't about just looking. The Greek word for "lust" mean to have an consuming intent. You're planning to have sex with a married woman. The Greek word for "woman" can mean single or married, depending on context. Clearly Jesus was talking about a MARRIED woman.

fornication is a sin just as equally is adultery.

how is it you have come to label there's a difference between the RANK of SINS, so the lesser one is ok to Commit?

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral [FORNICATORS], nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Even FORNICATION : will not inherit the kingdom of God!

 

[JohnB]

fornication is a sin just as equally is adultery.

how is it you have come to label there's a difference between the RANK of SINS, so the lesser one is ok to Commit?

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral [FORNICATORS], nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Even FORNICATION : will not inherit the kingdom of God!

Fornication did not have the death penalty. In fact the man only had to pay a fine and marry the woman, IF the father allowed it.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Fornication did not have the death penalty. In fact the man only had to pay a fine and marry the woman, IF the father allowed it.

Doesn't Matter, God, specifically mentions it in the New Testament, as if you DO IT, you do not inherit the Kingdom of God!

It has a "SPIRITUAL DEATH PENALTY!"

which, is worse than physical death.

 

[JohnB]

Doesn't Matter, God, specifically mentions it in the New Testament, as if you DO IT, you do not inherit the Kingdom of God!

It has a "SPIRITUAL DEATH PENALTY!"

which, is worse than physical death.

“If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife." Exodus 22:16.

Doesn't Matter, God, specifically mentions it in the New Testament, as if you DO IT, you do not inherit the Kingdom of God!

It has a "SPIRITUAL DEATH PENALTY!"

which, is worse than physical death.

"“If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife " Exodus 22:16. Why wasn't the couple put to death? According to your interpretation they are now in hell?

 

[JohnB]

Doesn't Matter, God, specifically mentions it in the New Testament, as if you DO IT, you do not inherit the Kingdom of God!

It has a "SPIRITUAL DEATH PENALTY!"

which, is worse than physical death.

Then every person who has been married more than once is in hell?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

“If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife." Exodus 22:16.

"“If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife " Exodus 22:16. Why wasn't the couple put to death? According to your interpretation they are now in hell?

You ARE NOT nor EVER have been a JEW!
The LAW, does not APPLY to You in this Sense, it applies now "only" in Spiritual Sense.
BUT, the NEW TESTAMENT LAW, about FORNICATION, is CURRENT and YOU must OBEY IT!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Then every person who has been married more than once is in hell?

No, a SIN that is FORGIVEN, is a SIN that NO LONGER EXISTS.

If, You, were Divorced, and as we should, accept it as a SIN because, Divorce, is a SIN!

But, JESUS, DIED for ALL SINS, including Divorce.

If You go to God, in Repentance, True Repentance, like one would go to God with [ANY] SIN, and put that SIN under the SHED BLOOD of Jesus, it's like You NEVER were Divorced, in God's Eyes. He, God, has thrown that SIN away and No Longer Remembers it!

 

[JohnB]

You ARE NOT nor EVER have been a JEW!
The LAW, does not APPLY to You in this Sense, it applies now "only" in Spiritual Sense.
BUT, the NEW TESTAMENT LAW, about FORNICATION, is CURRENT and YOU must OBEY IT!

Paul himself called for those in fornication to get married. You don't see the church pushing this. All they push is, you're going to hell.