Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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posthuman said:
and some of you will read that and think, "he seems like he likes Obama"

good grief.

please stop thinking like the world thinks.
we are supposed to be in a Christian forum, not a secular one.
this is not 'RNC chat'

i hate liars.
former-president Trump is a big fat one.
end of story.
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I am a bit of a simp (fan) of your posts in the other areas of the forum and it's interesting to read your views on Trump. I truly have a respect for your input regardless of it coinciding with my own thoughts or not. Having said that, are there any Republicans you think would make a good candidate?
 
HeIsHere said:
You do realize that the USA is facing an existential crisis and by default could jeopardize its standing as a leading world power and the leader whi is put in office will have a tremendous impact on the future of the country.
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Imagine dutifully standing up for the revolting and criminally twisted Brandon and his clan of criminals. Look at his druggie grifter porn addict son. Look at their lifestyle. Take note of the indisputable fact of family money laundering and influence peddling and treason and RICO violations. Americas first family is the most degenerate and revolting of probably any first family in the world today. This predicated upon the prevailing facts and evidence.

Yet no crazy Dem pumper around here is willing to even breathe the slightest condemnation against dear leader?

Frankly, I do not see that with on the flip side. Many of the conservatives on this board have expressed legit criticisms of Trump. I think he was many times a stupid patsy. I question his competence in the face of his political opposition. I also do not trust him implicitly. I tolerate him, and will kick him to the curb in a heartbeat. He is a politician after all.

But he ain't no criminal sleaze bag like Brandon. And the Trump or DeSantis family is nothing even close to the bottom of the manure pile degeneracy of the Brandon clan.
 
Tall_Timbers said:
IMO, desantis would be a poor choice for a running mate. He's shown himself to be in cahoots with deepstatists and will be beholden to them should he get elected to any federal office down the road.
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Yup....there is definitely reason to assert this possibility. Thats why you "kick them to the curb" when they get out of line. Vigilance is crucial.

And we have to remember, loving money and power = turning away from God. Which is why you do not trust politicians.

Luk 16:13
No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Mat 19:21
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
Mat 19:22
But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
 
ZNP said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/01/desantis-donors-finance-campaign-00109142

Deep-pocketed political donors have flooded Ron DeSantis’ super PAC — demonstrating his campaign’s reliance on an outside group funded by a small circle of wealthy people.

The donations — laid out Monday night in the first official filing of the Never Back Down PAC supporting the Florida governor — show DeSantis can benefit from nearly $100 million the organization had on hand as of June 30. Between Never Back Down’s deep coffers and DeSantis’ early campaign cutbacks, his operation will largely be powered by what is in essence a shadow campaign that cannot legally coordinate with the candidate.


The super PAC’s biggest single donor, Robert Bigelow, gave $20 million — accounting for more than half of the total from individual contributions Never Back Down has raised since March. Bigelow is not a new donor: He gave $10 million last summer to a Florida state PAC that DeSantis set up as governor. That account, now called Empower Parents, shifted $82.5 million to Never Back Down in May — making it the largest influx of cash.
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First, I want to say that I gave a lot of respect to Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump for not being aligned with Super Pacs. I think Super Pacs should be outlawed, if not, capped at how much money they can raise/contribute indirectly towards a campaign. Having said that, Trump turned to the dark side and absolutely has a Super Pac(s) too.

Virtually every other candidate has Super Pacs. Perhaps I'm unfamiliar with the donors of Desantis' Super Pacs, but is something suppose to be jumping out to me which indicts DeSantis of being a deepstatist and/or being in cahoots with them?
 
Tall_Timbers said:
Just search the web, you should find plenty.
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I am. I'm reading reports of DeSantis walking back initial comments he made in regards to categorizing "territorial disputes" between Russia and Ukraine. I don't think that is what you're referencing though.

Help a brother out. If you read something that convinced you DeSantis is a deepstatist and/or in cahoots with them, just send it my way. It's difficult to find something you don't know what you're looking for.
 
cv5 said:
Yet no crazy Dem pumper around here is willing to even breathe the slightest condemnation against dear leader?
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I noticed that too. They will say "I am not for the democrats either" but they only spew vitriol towards Trump.
 
cv5 said:
PH.....I have posted many many "caught red handed" instances of horrific election fraud on this very thread. Tons. And yet you failed to apprehend not even the least one of them?
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this is just another flat earth conversation, and for you the entire judislcial system and electoral commission is 'nasa'

There is no credible evidence the election was false. none.

There were no more than the usual miniscule amounts of fraud found, and at least half of those were in former president's favor, as probability would lead us to expect. nothing that would have changed any electoral college vote. zero, I repeat, zero recounts or investigations turned up any substantive irregularities.

it is a big LIE.
 
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cv5 said:
on this very thread
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i don't read threads in this forum. I learned long ago there's no point, it ls almost worse than the conspiracy forum, and since the later parts of the Bush presidency it has had almost nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and everything to do with the RNC's srated goal of manipulating the southern voting bloc through a perceived neo-christendom.

We as Christians are the target of an enormous, decades long, republican propaganda campaign.

It's disgusting how easily we fall for it.
 
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posthuman said:
this is just another flat earth conversation, and for you the entire judislcial system and electoral commission is 'nasa'

There is no credible evidence the election was false. none.

There were no more than the usual miniscule amounts of fraud found, and at least half of those were in former president's favor, as probability would lead us to expect. nothing that would have changed any electoral college vote. zero, I repeat, zero recounts or investigations turned up any substantive irregularities.

it is a big LIE.
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OK man. I will have to dig your ditches for you and post some info.

What do you think about this? More zero credible evidence? :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689279459147304960
 
posthuman said:
We as Christians are the target of an enormous, decades long, republican propaganda campaign.
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Oh I do not disagree with that at all. In fact, this is very well known to be the case.

But that does not excuse an intentionally weaponized DOJ, FBI and Brandon's ongoing criminal enterprises.
Nor the obvious agenda of coordinating Antifa/BLM storm troopers to be let loose to terrorize the populace during the 2020 election.
Nor the blatant COVID hoaxing to obtain the desired election results.

You are dead wrong on this election fraud business.
 
HeIsHere said:
Remember the weapons of mass destruction... umm how many lives that cost.

I could go on...
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We are not talking about a handful of politically expedient lies. we're talking about literally thousands and thousands of false statements.

There is a clear pattern.
 
Who did Russian misinformation campaigns in America during the last two elections benefit? which candidate?

@cv5 bro, if you want to go do wn the rabbit hole don't ignore half the burrow.

But none of that has any bearing on whether 'stop the steal' was an enormous, purposeful lie to try to keep an incredibly vain and manipulative man who is an obvious, documented pattern liar and big fan of dictatorships, in power.

The facts are that all the evidence days he lost fair and square - and that he will stop at nothing to try to rule the country again, legitimately or not.

And this has nothing whatsoever to do with our faith beyond the habit the RNC has of trying to buy the Christian voting bloc with fake religious overtures.
 
He is a very dangerous man to our country and to democracy in general, he is absolutely untrustworthy, and his following is nothing less than cultic.

That's my opinion, based in evidence, and I am done with this thread.
 
posthuman said:
He is a very dangerous man to our country and to democracy in general, he is absolutely untrustworthy, and his following is nothing less than cultic.

That's my opinion, based in evidence, and I am done with this thread.
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You are describing every politician and political party in America buddy. Wakey wakey. And the thing is, even the so-called "right-wingers" know this business is filthy and treacherous.

But.....NOBODY and no party has so far successfully stolen a presidential election. Except for Brandon the Dems in 2020. Which makes them by far the worst and most dangerous of all.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, it IS possible to choose candidates that will basically support law and order and the Constitution, BoR and freedoms of the people. Or what is left of it nowadays. That may be the best we can do, despite the quite well known underlying sinister agenda and motivations.

Just to let you know, I do not trust Trump or Repubs.....at all. Seriously. Not in the least. Why? They are NOT SAVED, not indwelt by the Holy Ghost. They are cast adrift in a sea of sin. They had better find Jesus their anchor and safe harbor. Pronto.
 
posthuman said:
He is a very dangerous man to our country and to democracy in general, he is absolutely untrustworthy, and his following is nothing less than cultic.
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I hope all this is being said about Joe Biden who is SYSTEMATICALLY destroying America, democracy, the Constitution, the rule of law, the economy, the capabilities of the USA, and everything else. The shocking thing is that everyone is simply standing by instead of locking him up. Now that looks cultic to me. He seems to have hypnotized everyone (or is it Satan who has done it on his behalf?)
 
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