Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion
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as soon as someone, who has never heard the Gospel preached before, hears the Gospel for the First Time, they will IMMEDIATELY think in their minds is God real or I want God and believe He is real. The ones who question if God is real, they might come later, but for now, they are not able to see that God is real. The ones who Accept, they were being Broken as they heard the Gospel of Christ, and the seeds were being planted deeper. Faith, had already began to sprout. But how much Faith that person will ever retain and be able to use, that's what God decides.
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1. You assume baptism in mark is water baptism.
2. Acts. It does nto say be baptized to recieve remission of sin, this has been proven to you numerous times
3. 1 Peter. once again, Like the water of the flood, which was Gods judgment on mankind, The waters of baptism symbolizes that which saves us.. That water does not remove sin from the body. it is the answer of a good conscious towards God.
your the one disagreeing with God. not me, I take Jesus at his word. if he meant baptism, he would have told us that in all the passages I showed you
1. You assume baptism in mark is water baptism.
2. Acts. It does nto say be baptized to recieve remission of sin, this has been proven to you numerous times
3. 1 Peter. once again, Like the water of the flood, which was Gods judgment on mankind, The waters of baptism symbolizes that which saves us.. That water does not remove sin from the body. it is the answer of a good conscious towards God.
your the one disagreeing with God. not me, I take Jesus at his word. if he meant baptism, he would have told us that in all the passages I showed you
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Very well said. In the Book of Acts, we see an example of what repentance looks like. Fear fell upon the people and they forsook their evil deeds. Many of today's Christians would call that "works" because they have distorted what repentance really entails, which involves forsaking our sins.
Acts 19
[13] Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
[14] And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
[15] And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
[16] And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
[17] And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.
[18] And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.
[19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
[20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. (KJV)
Acts 19
[13] Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
[14] And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
[15] And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
[16] And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
[17] And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.
[18] And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.
[19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
[20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. (KJV)
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