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Walter

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Saturday 8-5-23 7th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, AV 18 5783, 46th. Summer Day

Greetings On This Seventh-Day Sabbath/Sabbat Shalom/Happy Shabbath And Good Morning

Isaiah 49

1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The Lord hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;

3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the Lord, and my work with my God.

5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength.

6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

7 Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

8 Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.

10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.

11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.

12 Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.

13 Sing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the Lord hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.

14 But Zion said, The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.

15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.

16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

17 Thy children shall make haste; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee.

18 Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the Lord, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.

19 For thy waste and thy desolate places, and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away.

20 The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell.

21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?

22 Thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?

25 But thus saith the Lord, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.

26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Love, Walter And Debbie
 

ResidentAlien

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Greetings On This Seventh-Day Sabbath/Sabbat Shalom/Happy Shabbath And Good Morning
Sorry, the Sabbath was a shadow and a type, which has been fulfilled in Christ.

"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace." Galatians 5:4
 
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evyaniy

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People choose various ways and days to worship based on their understanding. That does not mean they are trying to be justified by the law. They are being sensitive to their convictions and understanding. If they believe in the Son for the forgiveness of sins the Word tells us they are saved over and over. Someone posted an excellent collection of verses from John recently telling us that.

When and how believers choose to worship according to their conscience is up to them. Try reading Romans 14 a few times before getting snarky about when and how people choose to worship.
 

ResidentAlien

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People choose various ways and days to worship based on their understanding. That does not mean they are trying to be justified by the law.
Couldn't agree more. However, the original poster has proven time and again it's about a lot more for him than simply a day of worship; he's definitely trying to be justified by law. He actually tries his best to keep the whole law of Moses.
 
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evyaniy

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we are supposed to be loving and merciful and not flaunt our freedom in Messiah when it hurts other believers. many believe they must do sacraments as part of their salvation. that does not mean they are seeking to be justified by those forms of worship. If they are believers in the Son for salvation the Word says they are saved.
 

ResidentAlien

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we are supposed to be loving and merciful and not flaunt our freedom in Messiah when it hurts other believers. many believe they must do sacraments as part of their salvation. that does not mean they are seeking to be justified by those forms of worship. If they are believers in the Son for salvation the Word says they are saved.
"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace." Galatians 5:4
 
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Couldn't agree more. However, the original poster has proven time and again it's about a lot more for him than simply a day of worship; he's definitely trying to be justified by law. He actually tries his best to keep the whole law of Moses.
To be justified by law requires perfect obedience of the law. That's out of reach for everyone
 
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evyaniy

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Sorry, the Sabbath was a shadow and a type, which has been fulfilled in Christ.

"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace." Galatians 5:4
you attacked from the start with no provocation when he was simply wishing people a happy Sabbath. your posts are often snarky and like this. but then to accuse him of falling from grace for observing and recognizing the Sabbath is wrong and hurtful.

He is one of the most active thread creators who has contributed much to the discussion and discourse who posts excellent Scripture all the time.

why are you so confrontational and belligerent to posters who are not even challenging you? it is inappropriate and uncalled for.
 

Nehemiah6

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To be justified by law requires perfect obedience of the law. That's out of reach for everyone
It also requires that the full penalty for all sins be paid first and, that provision be made for the forgiveness of sins. This is impossible without Christ.
 

ResidentAlien

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you attacked from the start with no provocation when he was simply wishing people a happy Sabbath. your posts are often snarky and like this. but then to accuse him of falling from grace for observing and recognizing the Sabbath is wrong and hurtful.

He is one of the most active thread creators who has contributed much to the discussion and discourse who posts excellent Scripture all the time.

why are you so confrontational and belligerent to posters who are not even challenging you? it is inappropriate and uncalled for.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about so I'll overlook this. You should understand what you're talking about before you make such ignorant claims.