One Must Be Born Again to Enter the Kingdom

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Walter

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Friday 8-4-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, AV 17 5783, 45th. Summer Day

Paul wrote that Christ is “the firstborn from the dead” (Col. 1:18), and also “the firstborn among many brethren” (Rom. 8:29). When connected, these verses show that Jesus is merely the firstborn from the dead, with many others to follow. But when, and into what, will these others be born?
In John 3:3, Christ said to Nicodemus, “Verily, verily [this means truly, truly], I say unto you, Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” In verse 6, Christ continues, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” Simply believe the plain meaning of this verse. One must become spirit to SEE the Kingdom of God.

Paul taught, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (I Cor. 15:50). The next two verses explain that the resurrection will occur at the last trumpet, when “the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
This is when the resurrection of the dead will occur. Do not misunderstand this climactic event, more carefully explained much later. Suffice to say here, people who were once fleshly human beings will be changed into spirit—will be born again—and enter into the Kingdom of God. No physical people can enter this Kingdom.

John 4:24 states, “God is a Spirit.” Under the Father, Christ leads His Kingdom, which is composed of spirit beings. At His Return, Christ, as a member of the God Family, will have many younger “brothers and sisters,” who will have qualified to rule with Him.
Think of it this way: There is a plant kingdom, an animal kingdom, human kingdoms and an angelic kingdom. There is also the Kingdom of God.


Now notice Genesis 1:26: “And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness.” When referring to themselves, the One speaking says, “Us,” “Our” and “Our.” This is proof that there is more than one Being in the Godhead—there are presently two! In this scripture, the Hebrew word for God is Elohim.

This is a uniplural term like group, team, committee or family. All of these represent one entity, comprised of several members or persons.
Thus, we will see that the Bible teaches that there is one God, composed of two Persons—the Father and Christ—with many more persons to be added later. The first great time when God will add more sons to His Family is when Christ’s Kingdom is established throughout the Earth. But entering God’s Kingdom will not be automatic for anyone.

Love, Walter And Debbie
 

Walter

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Friday 8-4-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, AV 17 5783, 45th. Summer Day

Paul wrote that Christ is “the firstborn from the dead” (Col. 1:18), and also “the firstborn among many brethren” (Rom. 8:29). When connected, these verses show that Jesus is merely the firstborn from the dead, with many others to follow. But when, and into what, will these others be born?
In John 3:3, Christ said to Nicodemus, “Verily, verily [this means truly, truly], I say unto you, Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” In verse 6, Christ continues, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” Simply believe the plain meaning of this verse. One must become spirit to SEE the Kingdom of God.

Paul taught, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (I Cor. 15:50). The next two verses explain that the resurrection will occur at the last trumpet, when “the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
This is when the resurrection of the dead will occur. Do not misunderstand this climactic event, more carefully explained much later. Suffice to say here, people who were once fleshly human beings will be changed into spirit—will be born again—and enter into the Kingdom of God. No physical people can enter this Kingdom.

John 4:24 states, “God is a Spirit.” Under the Father, Christ leads His Kingdom, which is composed of spirit beings. At His Return, Christ, as a member of the God Family, will have many younger “brothers and sisters,” who will have qualified to rule with Him.
Think of it this way: There is a plant kingdom, an animal kingdom, human kingdoms and an angelic kingdom. There is also the Kingdom of God.


Now notice Genesis 1:26: “And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness.” When referring to themselves, the One speaking says, “Us,” “Our” and “Our.” This is proof that there is more than one Being in the Godhead—there are presently two! In this scripture, the Hebrew word for God is Elohim.

This is a uniplural term like group, team, committee or family. All of these represent one entity, comprised of several members or persons.
Thus, we will see that the Bible teaches that there is one God, composed of two Persons—the Father and Christ—with many more persons to be added later. The first great time when God will add more sons to His Family is when Christ’s Kingdom is established throughout the Earth. But entering God’s Kingdom will not be automatic for anyone.

Love, Walter And Debbie
 

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Are you saying that one has to physically die to enter the kingdom?
 

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Now notice Genesis 1:26: “And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness.” When referring to themselves, the One speaking says, “Us,” “Our” and “Our.” This is proof that there is more than one Being in the Godhead—there are presently two! In this scripture, the Hebrew word for God is Elohim.

This is a uniplural term like group, team, committee or family. All of these represent one entity, comprised of several members or persons. Thus, we will see that the Bible teaches that there is one God, composed of two Persons—the Father and Christ—with many more persons to be added later. The first great time when God will add more sons to His Family is when Christ’s Kingdom is established throughout the Earth. But entering God’s Kingdom will not be automatic for anyone.
More trinity denial.
 

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Cameron, what do you understand?
I believe the kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom and requires spiritual life to enter into. Since we all come into the world dead in this regard, we must be made alive and hence the necessity of being born from above.
 

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ResidentAlien, what is it don't you understand?
I understand it's doubtful you're even a Christian. You deny the personhood of the Holy Spirit and relegate Him to an inanimate power. I don't see how you can call yourself a Christian and believe this; and not only believe it but teach it.
 

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I believe the kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom and requires spiritual life to enter into. Since we all come into the world dead in this regard, we must be made alive and hence the necessity of being born from above.
Yes, Sir according to my understanding.
 

Walter

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I understand it's doubtful you're even a Christian. You deny the personhood of the Holy Spirit and relegate Him to an inanimate power. I don't see how you can call yourself a Christian and believe this; and not only believe it but teach it.
I'm not in denial of anything, that you are claiming.
 

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Lord fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits


But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep.

But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.
 

ResidentAlien

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I'm not in denial of anything, that you are claiming.
Sure you are; you've said it many times before, now you're trying to deny it. You must think people around here have very short memories. You're a a false brother and a hidden reef as far as I'm concerned.
 

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First fruits are important. Give your money first to Kenneth Copeland Minstries. 10%. the tithe.
 

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I heard being born again is a process. But both the regenerative process and those born again after the regenerative process can both experience the same things.
 
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I understand it's doubtful you're even a Christian. You deny the personhood of the Holy Spirit and relegate Him to an inanimate power. I don't see how you can call yourself a Christian and believe this; and not only believe it but teach it.
If I may, you cannot take the Holy Spirit out of the equation where Father and Son are concerned, for otherwise Father and Son could not be one.
 

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Speaking of Born again, ask yourself why Jesus never mentioned it again, nor any of the Apostles, or their disciples, or for that matter the church for more than 1900 years. The greek word for "again or anew" can also be understood for " from above" . I see this as modern day heresy as Jesus was preaching the resurrection.
 

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Speaking of Born again, ask yourself why Jesus never mentioned it again, nor any of the Apostles, or their disciples, or for that matter the church for more than 1900 years. The greek word for "again or anew" can also be understood for " from above" . I see this as modern day heresy as Jesus was preaching the resurrection.
Omegatime, We are mainly concerned about understanding what and why Jesus was saying to Nicodemus that he must be Born Again.

We believe it is for a spiritual rebirth for us to deepen our salvation for His second coming to enter the kingdom.