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Did man land on the moon?

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ZNP said:
One in five who got Moderna booster got Myocarditis


SHOCKING New Covid Studies: Vaccine Heart Risk & Mask Mandate REVERSAL?
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Btw, the number of unvaccined people which got covid is multiple higher, then the vaccined people with myocarditis.
 
wolfwint said:
This study lies. This means 20% of the vaccined people worlwide got myocarditis. Then the hospitals must close because of overcrowding.
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Obviously you did not listen to this link or know anything of the study and yet you feel you can call them liars, that is truly despicable.

1. The Study was on the Moderna vaccine and boosters, not any others.

2. This was an active study rather than a passive one, meaning they monitored everyone who got the vaccine and booster looking for markers of myocarditis. Apparently there are markers you can see and if you spot them before doing strenuous activity you can avoid the heart attacks that can be a result.

You have exposed yourself as a total phony calling them liars without knowing anything of what they have done. What a sad situation, a person who hates the truth so much you are willing to embrace a lie.
 
ZNP said:
Obviously you did not listen to this link or know anything of the study and yet you feel you can call them liars, that is truly despicable.

1. The Study was on the Moderna vaccine and boosters, not any others.

2. This was an active study rather than a passive one, meaning they monitored everyone who got the vaccine and booster looking for markers of myocarditis. Apparently there are markers you can see and if you spot them before doing strenuous activity you can avoid the heart attacks that can be a result.

You have exposed yourself as a total phony calling them liars without knowing anything of what they have done. What a sad situation, a person who hates the truth so much you are willing to embrace a lie.
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So, how many people world wide got Moderna? I suppose several millions.
1 out of 5 is so far I know 20%.
20% from 1 000 000 is 200 000 correct?
Alone in germany 30.560.540 injections with moderna were given. So 6.112.108 people would get myocarditis according your post.
Realy you expect that this is belivable?
 
wolfwint said:
So, how many people world wide got Moderna? I suppose several millions.
1 out of 5 is so far I know 20%.
20% from 1 000 000 is 200 000 correct?
Alone in germany 30.560.540 injections with moderna were given. So 6.112.108 people would get myocarditis according your post.
Realy you expect that this is belivable?
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Did you listen to the discussion on the study? Did you read the paper?

What is not believable is you.

Apparently myocarditis does not mean permanent damage to your heart. The way I understood this, the real risk is going out for a mile run with myocarditis, or playing soccer, or basketball or any other activity.

However, it is possible that you get myocarditis from the shot, you don't aggravate the situation and the inflammation goes away.

I am not an expert but that is what I understood from the discussion, apparently myocarditis is the inflammation of the heart. If you then put the heart under stress while it is inflammed you can get a heart attack. However, many of those who got myocarditis did not put the heart under stress so you don't see 20% getting heart attacks.

What made this study different was that instead of waiting for people to get heart attacks they monitored everyone who got the shot for markers of myocarditis and they were not in any way making money from the shot and so had no motivation to obfuscate or play with the numbers.
 
GaryA said:
The word 'medicine' is a highly misused word.

Are you aware that the "building block" base-level foundation of all pharmaceutical drugs comes from the leftover "waste" of the oil distillation process?

That is why all pharmaceutical drugs have side effects that are injurious to the human body. Our bodies are not designed to process these base-level "building block" substances.

Pharmaceutical drugs never actually cure anything. They only mask symptoms and cover up underlying conditions that continue to do more harm to the body.

I believe in God's 'medicine' - which is 'natural'. I do not believe in Satan's 'medicine' - which is 'unnatural'.

The body can use God's 'medicine' to actually 'heal' itself - it cannot use Satan's 'medicine' effectively.

The only way your body can be cured of/from anything is if it cures itself. And, for that to occur, you have to give it what it needs to heal naturally.

What it needs is God's 'medicine'. And, if you desire the best possible permanent healthy fastest cure rate, you must give it God's 'medicine'.

You get God's 'medicine' [mostly] through your diet - what you eat. And, if you want continual good health, you must eat the right things.

Yes - sometimes 'emergency medicine' can be used to keep you alive long enough for your body to heal itself. But, it is your body that actually does the healing.

I am not against all 'modern medicine'. I am mainly against this idea and mentality:

"Here - take this pill for the rest of your life."

Most people my age (in the U.S.A., as far as I can tell) are taking a handful of pills every day.

I have never done that in my life, and do not ever intend to. It only takes you down further.

And, because I know the truth about pharmaceutical drugs - I try to avoid them entirely.

Instead, I use God's 'medicine'. I am blessed with good health and very rarely get sick.
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My great grandmother never went to a doctor and she lived into her 90s. She ask the church to pray for her and thats what she relied on
 
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wolfwint said:
May I remind you. That you postet:
"One of five who got moderna booster got myocarditis"
Thats claims 20% of all who got moderna got myocarditis.
This claim I said is a lie!
According to this claim in germany we would got over
6 000000 people with myocarditis.
Here some Information about myocarditis.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/conditions/myocarditis#myovacc
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In Germany did you test everyone who got the Moderna vaccine/booster for the markers of Myocarditis? The difference between this study and what everyone else did including Germany is this study tested everyone after getting the vaccine whereas everyone else just waited for people to come to the hospital.

These are the common symptoms of Myocarditis:

Common myocarditis symptoms include:
  • Chest pain.
  • Fatigue.
  • Swelling of the legs, ankles and feet.
  • Rapid or irregular heartbeat (arrhythmias)
  • Shortness of breath, at rest or during activity.
  • Light-headedness or feeling like you might faint.
  • Flu-like symptoms such as headache, body aches, joint pain, fever or sore throat.
Just because you have flu like symptoms after getting a vaccine, most people would not go to the doctor, they would see that as a normal response and just rest a little. Not everyone runs to the hospital to check if they got myocarditis because they are light headed or have shortness of breath. The same is true of fatigue or chest pain.

Most people would simply rest and see if these things go away.

Your stats are not relevant. What your stats really show is how many people had a severe case so that they went to the hospital after getting the shot and then got tested for Myocarditis. That isn't everyone, that isn't even the majority.
 
wolfwint said:
So, how many people world wide got Moderna? I suppose several millions.
1 out of 5 is so far I know 20%.
20% from 1 000 000 is 200 000 correct?
Alone in germany 30.560.540 injections with moderna were given. So 6.112.108 people would get myocarditis according your post.
Realy you expect that this is belivable?
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it's just been announced COVID is making a comeback 4 hours ago

 
maybe this will help

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ZNP said:
In Germany did you test everyone who got the Moderna vaccine/booster for the markers of Myocarditis? The difference between this study and what everyone else did including Germany is this study tested everyone after getting the vaccine whereas everyone else just waited for people to come to the hospital.

These are the common symptoms of Myocarditis:

Common myocarditis symptoms include:
  • Chest pain.
  • Fatigue.
  • Swelling of the legs, ankles and feet.
  • Rapid or irregular heartbeat (arrhythmias)
  • Shortness of breath, at rest or during activity.
  • Light-headedness or feeling like you might faint.
  • Flu-like symptoms such as headache, body aches, joint pain, fever or sore throat.
Just because you have flu like symptoms after getting a vaccine, most people would not go to the doctor, they would see that as a normal response and just rest a little. Not everyone runs to the hospital to check if they got myocarditis because they are light headed or have shortness of breath. The same is true of fatigue or chest pain.

Most people would simply rest and see if these things go away.

Your stats are not relevant. What your stats really show is how many people had a severe case so that they went to the hospital after getting the shot and then got tested for Myocarditis. That isn't everyone, that isn't even the majority.
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This from you mentioned test is only then relevant when the same person was testet bevor he got the vaccine and then after he got the it.

And again, you statet 1 of 5 people got the myocarditis.! I read this study ( not in the video) in a side which is critical to the vaccine. On another vaccine critical side I read it was 1 out of 35.
Fact
In this study 22 out of 777 people which worked in the Basel hospital had higher troponin level in the blood. When they made the blood test 3 days after booster.
Non of the 22 people needed after that medical or other treatment.

So what I miss is:
1. How Was the tropin level before got the booster?
2. There is no study which shows how high was the troponin level after infection with Covid.

So the claim 1 out of 5 got myocarditis is still a lie and was not reportet in this study!!
 
wolfwint said:
This from you mentioned test is only then relevant when the same person was testet bevor he got the vaccine and then after he got the it.

And again, you statet 1 of 5 people got the myocarditis.! I read this study ( not in the video) in a side which is critical to the vaccine. On another vaccine critical side I read it was 1 out of 35.
Fact
In this study 22 out of 777 people which worked in the Basel hospital had higher troponin level in the blood. When they made the blood test 3 days after booster.
Non of the 22 people needed after that medical or other treatment.

So what I miss is:
1. How Was the tropin level before got the booster?
2. There is no study which shows how high was the troponin level after infection with Covid.

So the claim 1 out of 5 got myocarditis is still a lie and was not reportet in this study!!
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The background incidence of Myocarditis is approximately 1/100,000 or 0.001% and after getting the Moderna vaccine it was 20%. An increase of 20,000x
 
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ZNP said:
The background incidence of Myocarditis is approximately 1/100,000 or 0.001% and after getting the Moderna vaccine it was 20%. An increase of 20,000x
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Who said this? The in your Video mentioned study made in Swiss says 22 out of 777 people had the troponin level temporär high.
So where is the proof for your 1 of 5?
 
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