Global warming or upcoming ice age

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Fundaamental

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I don't believe the earth's atmosphere is this dainty, frail veil surrounding the earth. The atmosphere, like the oceans are a large part of God's providential care for the earth and both entities are great cleansers and aid in maintaining the equilibrium of the earth's various cycles.
So I guess where we Fundaamentally disagree is in the character and nature of the earth itself.
Good point friend 😉

I believe the earth is designed to go in and out of ice ages from glacial to interglacial.

In the form of global warming

Through recycling gasses from organic matter 😊.

Did you watch the vid ?
 

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I see and thanks. But how many of these fires are arson and how many could have been contained
if a modicum of fire prevention measures were taken? Environmentalists have blocked land
management techniques the damage caused by these fires. Simply clearing land and creating fire
breaks could make most fires manageable. But rabid environmentalists block real efforts at true
conservation.There is plenty of blame to be had. I just wish people would get to the true source.
You are welcome. Unfortunately (as with many issues), there are conflicting interests and opinions. We know
the root cause is sin, and the love of money plays a large role in the destruction of our environment and
natural resources. The Bible does tell us that those who destroy the earth will be destroyed. So, yay
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Good point friend 😉

I believe the earth is designed to go in and out of ice ages from glacial to interglacial.

In the form of global warming

Through recycling gasses from organic matter 😊.

Did you watch the vid ?
Still haven't watched the video.
 

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Giant ‘doomsday fish’ has rare close encounter with divers off Taiwan coast

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Divers have shared footage of the moment they encountered a huge “earthquake-heralding” oarfish with holes in its body off the coast of Taiwan.
The rare sea creature - nicknamed the “doomsday fish” - was spotted floating eerily upright near Ruifang District in Taipei.
It appeared to have several holes in its body believed to be bites inflicted while escaping from a shark attack.
The illusive creature, said to be a harbinger of earthquakes and other natural disasters, measured at least 8ft long and had bulging round eyes.
Despite suggestions, the connection between the appearance of an oarfish and tsunamis or earthquakes has not been scientifically proven.
 

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The above post may go with this and maybe more to come

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidb...tion-started-on-icelands-reykjanes-peninsula/

New Eruption Started On Iceland’s Reykjanes Peninsula
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Just 11 months after the last eruption ended in the Geldingadalur valley near Fagradalsfjall mountain on Iceland’s Reykjanes Peninsula, two new 100-meter-long fissures spewing lava opened in the ground (the moment was captured on video and uploaded by Lava Lens - Jakob Vegerfors/Youtube on July 13).
 

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British Golden Pheasant population deemed functionally extinct

longer self-sustaining.


This male Golden Pheasant was photographed among the dark understory of Wayland

At their peak, between the 1940s and 1970s, as many as 1,000 Golden Pheasants were estimated to be at large in Britain. In the traditional stronghold of Breckland, more than 100 could be seen at single sites.

However, the species has declined since then and, as the paper shows, today most free-living British individuals were hatched in cages (such as on Tresco, Scilly). There may be one site in The Brecks where descendants of the naturalised population remain, but this is thought to be unlikely.

The team of researchers carried out a survey of this remnant Breckland population in 2022-23, chiefly looking for immatures which may suggest breeding. While a second-year male was discovered, it was one of only four individuals found – three males and a female. It's probable that some or all of these were released and don't descend from the 'original' Breckland population.

Camera trap footage reaffirmed that the population was approximately four birds – far fewer than the official British population estimate of 20-30. As a result, the study concluded that no self-sustaining British populations persist and that Golden Pheasant should be moved to Category C6.

The paper cited other extirpated populations in Anglesey, Dumfries and Galloway, the South Downs in Hampshire/West Sussex and North Norfolk. It also discussed a population at Poole Harbour, Dorset – the only place outside Breckland where Golden Pheasants can be seen in Britain. However, the team concluded that these birds cannot be considered naturalised due to ongoing releases and supplementary feeding.

It seems likely this research will form the basis of a review of Golden Pheasant status on the BOU's British list, with the species set to follow in the footsteps of Lady Amherst's Pheasant, which was placed in Category C6 in 2005.
 

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World will miss 1.5C warming limit - top UK expert
  • By Esme Stallard & Justin Rowlatt
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Professor Sir Bob Watson formerly headed the UN climate body

A leading British climate scientist has told the BBC he believes the target to limit global warming to 1.5C will be missed.
Professor Sir Bob Watson, former head of the UN climate body, told the BBC's Today programme he was "pessimistic".
His warning comes amidst a summer of extreme heat for Europe, China and the US.
The UN says passing the limit will expose millions more people to potentially devastating climate events.
The world agreed to try to limit the temperature increase due to climate change to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels at a UN conference in Paris in 2015. That target has become the centrepiece of global efforts to tackle climate change.
Climate scientists have been warning governments for years that they are not cutting their countries' emissions quickly enough to keep within this target.
But it is surprising for someone as senior and well respected as the former head of the UN climate science body the IPCC to be so frank that he believes it will be missed.
Professor Sir Bob Watson is currently Emeritus Professor of the UK's Tyndall Centre for Climate Research - having previously worked at the UN, Nasa, UK's Department of Environment and the US White House - and is perhaps one of the foremost climate scientists in the world.
In the interview aired on Thursday he said: "I think most people fear that if we give up on the 1.5 [celsius limit] which I do not believe we will achieve, in fact I'm very pessimistic about achieving even 2C, that if we allow the target to become looser and looser, higher and higher, governments will do even less in the future."
Although his comments are candid on the state of action on climate change, many of his colleagues will agree with his conclusion that we are on course for a temperature rise of 2.5C or more. Based on current government commitments to cutting greenhouse gas emissions Climate Action Tracker predicts that global temperatures will rise to 2.7C
 

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Scientists believe great white sharks are roaming the waters around Ireland as climate change means they must swim further north for food. An American research group believes the man-eating sharks, which can grow up to 20ft and weigh up to two tonnes, are likely to be in Ireland.5 days ago


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Agenda 2030 is an urgent call to confirm this covenant for 7 years. The unanimity of world leaders is proof they are convinced of the urgent catastrophic events in the next seven years, and yet if you look at the predictions made twenty years ago or more about Climate change it is ridiculous to think we only have seven more years. I would argue that what has the world leaders spooked is they have seen evidence that Wormwood will be here in 2030, a planet killer.


Will the Tribulation Begin in September?
 

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Agenda 2030 is an urgent call to confirm this covenant for 7 years. The unanimity of world leaders is proof they are convinced of the urgent catastrophic events in the next seven years, and yet if you look at the predictions made twenty years ago or more about Climate change it is ridiculous to think we only have seven more years. I would argue that what has the world leaders spooked is they have seen evidence that Wormwood will be here in 2030, a planet killer.


Will the Tribulation Begin in September?
Just one thought sooner or later one of theese predictions have to come true,

The law of averages will one day be greater when we get closer to that day.
 

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How hot is TOO hot? As extreme heatwaves sweep across Europe, experts reveal the upper temperature limit for human safety - and it's much lower than we thought

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...erature-limit-human-safety-lower-thought.html

By Sam Tonkin For MailonlineUpdated: 14:54 20 Jul 2023



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Heat stroke is where the body is no longer able to cool itself and a person's body temperature becomes dangerously high due to a long amount of time exposed to direct sunlight.

Common symptoms include:

  • Confusion, altered mental status, slurred speech
  • Not sweating - a sign of being dehydrated
  • Loss of consciousness, incoherence
  • Hot, dry skin or profuse sweating
  • Seizures
  • Nausea or vomiting
  • Very high body temperature
  • Dizziness or a headache
  • Fast, strong pulse
It may be balmy in Britain but the rest of Europe has been roasting in record-breaking heat over the last few days.

And it's not just on the continent where millions of people have been sweltering in temperatures well above 'normal' - the mercury also went over 122°F (50°C) in parts of the US and China earlier this week.
 

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The Earth Is Dancing Too Close to a Temperature Tipping Point
Analysis by F.D. Flam | Bloomberg
July 19, 2023 at 6:47 a.m. EDT
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Between this summer’s biblical floods, apocalyptic fires and life-threatening heat domes, people are starting to wonder whether we’ve lurched over some sort of climate tipping point. Climate scientists and ecologists who study tipping points say what we’re seeing are merely extreme events amplified by global warming. But they’ve been warning about the risk of climate tipping points for years. Now people are listening.

Research published last year in Science suggests the risk of a global tipping point that triggers accelerated climate warming starts to become significant once average worldwide temperatures rise 1.5C above pre-industrial levels. That’s likely to happen in the 2030s.
In popular usage, tipping points refer to anything that changes suddenly. In science, it usually refers to a straw-that-broke-the-camel’s-back phenomenon, where a small change in input makes a big difference in outcome.

When climate scientists talk about tipping points, they’re looking at a shift in feedback loops — the disruption of stabilizing feedback loops and the start of new ones that amplify change. Physicists refer to this as a positive feedback loop, but from our standpoint it won’t be beneficial.
Scientists have documented dozens of regional and local climate tipping points. And long ago, the Earth experienced planet-wide tipping points when the climate whiplashed from an ice-free hothouse to a snowball and back again.
Looking at some of that long-term history for an Earth Day column a few years ago, I talked to scientists who marveled that Earth has been habitable for almost its entire existence — nearly 4 billion years — thanks to stabilizing feedback loops. Even so, for most of that history, there was no complex life — only bacteria. And sudden shifts in climactic feedback loops did roil the planet. After the advent of complex life, some of these led to mass death and extinction.

And one more reason to be concerned today: The rate of change we’re imposing on the planet is “geologically unusual,” as planetary scientist Andy Knoll told me then.
What scientists are most worried about now are regional changes that tip into global catastrophes. Timothy Lenton, chair in climate change and earth system science at the University of Exeter, refers to “tipping elements” — systems of glaciers, forests and coral reefs whose collapse could trigger a form of global warming that feeds on itself. He and colleagues first identified a number of these in a 2008 study, but he said they’re generating much more interest now.
He also led a more recent review of studies highlighting the tipping elements that pose the most immediate threat — the destruction of the West Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, the thawing of the permafrost and the destruction of the world’s coral reefs.

He said the extreme events making the news this summer might represent an early warning sign he calls flickering — a brief visit to the other side of a tipping point. “A complex system can sometimes start to sample a different regime or state before it takes a more permanent shift into that state,” he said. “I hope it’s not the case.”
The tipping point phenomenon has led to the collapse of local ecologies before, said Simon Willcock, an interdisciplinary researcher at Rothamsted Research in the UK. One good example is the Sahara Desert, which has gone from lush to dry in cycles, the most recent one possibly helped by humans.
In a paper published last month in Nature Sustainability, he and colleagues created complex models of ecosystem collapse, using two examples where tipping points happened in relatively recent history — the Chilika Lagoon in India, where fish populations collapsed, and Easter Island, where deforestation and other environmental stress led to extinction of the local human population.

What he found, he said, was that ecological tipping points can happen much faster than previous models had shown, once they took into account multiple stresses — not just temperature changes, but factors such as overgrazing, deforestation, agricultural runoff and overfishing.
Natural fluctuations — noise — also make tipping points more likely. Think of standing on the edge of a cliff, he said, with random gusts buffeting you toward and away from the brink. And consider someone nearby in still air on a similar cliff. “Who’s going to fall off the cliff first?” he asked. “It’s obvious, right?”
He also worries that too much clearing of the Amazon might dry things out just enough to start a massive fire. That would make the region drier, killing more trees, fueling more fire and lofting more carbon into the atmosphere, making the climate warmer and drier, and accelerating forest loss in a vicious cycle.

Our civilization is delicate — our dense population centers dependent on agriculture and lots of clean water. Although humanity survived shifts from ice ages to warm interglacial periods, our species has enjoyed an unusually quiescent period for the last 12,000 years, the point when we settled down and started farming.
A climate tipping point could make life a lot harder for our species. We’re not yet over the cliff, but we’re dancing dangerously near the edge
 

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This is a much better explanation for the crazy weather we have seen worldwide, as well as the Earthaquakes, Volcanoes increasing exponentially and as well as the wobble of Earth's axis and the flipping of our magnetic field.


This huge planetary body can explain everything we have seen whereas burning fossil fuel does not explain everything, in fact it does a very poor job of explaining any of the observable phenomenon.
 

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Raging wildfires on the Greek island of Rhodes have sparked the evacuation of around 2,000 tourists from its resorts.

The Greek government said it had evacuated 19,000 people in the "largest ever" wildfire evacuation in the country's history.

Local media said the fires had reached three hotels, which had already been evacuated, with three coastguard vessels plus one from the army evacuating people from two beaches.

But what should holidaymakers do if they have booked to travel to the island?

Largest ever evacuation from Greece - latest on Rhodes wildfires

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Are airlines still flying to Rhodes?

Jet2 cancelled all flights and holidays to Rhodes until next Monday (31 July), saying "we will be contacting affected customers with regards to their refund and rebooking options".

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With all theese volcanoes active would this be why the earth doesn't get to hot.

Just imagine how much pressure could build up in the earth if there was no release.
 
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there no such thing as global warming,:)
pull my other leg, it will play a magic tune.


FUZZY LOGIC

The writing is blowing in the new 21st century New Zealand tornados and it is getting washed out in the new binge 21st century summer floodings.

Climate change!! Why not hit the target and say Global warming? Why do we have people that want to keep their head in the sand.

Early 2023 it was reported on New Zealand TV news that sea temperatures are rising, HOW CAN sea temperatures rise if the earth is cooling?

So we get higher water temperature and faster water evaporation. But they do not talk about rising temperatures in thousands of water dams or lakes around the world.

More Clouds,

It either comes down as heavier snow to make it look like the planet is getting colder or heavier rain in the middle of summer, so we get added stress and added stress from a chemical toxic world.

Or is it people are just too lazy to put warmer clothing on in the middle of winter. Try this out in the middle of winter walk around Auckland CBD you will see people outside choking the footpath space sitting at tables drinking hot drinks with heaters beaming down on them, then go inside you will see the place empty and the place is warmer.

GREAT, so now with heavier snow, heavier summer rain, not only that people are dying like flys inside because it is too hot to go outside in a summer heatwave, as been reported around the world.

And where is most of all this sea rise gone apart from land disappearing into the sea, many countrys around the world have build water dams to soak up the melting ice from up the mountains, & NZ lost good farming land that was been labelled as earthquake risk and there is many other examples
 

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Current active volcanoes and question.

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Pacaya


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Masaya Volcano

With all theese volcanoes active would this be why the earth doesn't get to hot.

Just imagine how much pressure could build up in the earth if there was no release.
There is no mechanism from "Climate Change" or burning fossil fuel that has been hypothesized to increase volcanic activity or earthquakes.

What we are seeing is not a result of Climate change, it is not a result of burning fossil fuel, time people wake up.
 

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There is no mechanism from "Climate Change" or burning fossil fuel that has been hypothesized to increase volcanic activity or earthquakes.

What we are seeing is not a result of Climate change, it is not a result of burning fossil fuel, time people wake up.
you didn't answer the question

The question I asked was what would happen if there was no volcanoes.

Then I suggest a research for how old and how long theese active volcanoes have been active.

What is the most active volcanoes at any one time.

What is the age of each volcanoes.

Or when did each volcanoes first ever erupt.

After This study we can question some theory 🙂