The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

[Fundaamental]

I got over it by God's grace. I don't know about those who the hill climber got hold of. The guys uncle, who was also a homo nearly bashed a boy's brains out and almost killed that little kid. That was a long time ago and the worthless step dad didn't do a thing to help the child or see justice. God has made sure of it though, no doubt. Jesus addressed it as an offense and His perfect millstone description.

I was one of the teenagers who found out that a trashy f*ggot got hold of family members.
My main concern was whether to use the commemorative Pittsburgh Pirates miniature bat or my full sized baseball bat on that neighbor. My Mother forbade me from following through with family justice and I regretted obeying her for many years. That's one of many problems that occurs when there's divorce and no strong father in the house. A normal father would verify and take appropriate action. Instead that f*g left in the middle of the night and went somewhere else to commit his crimes on many others if he followed the same pattern of the typical reprobates. Why Christians talk about loving those reprobates and nothing about the victims shows the worldly philosophy coming from the pulpits. They talk about having the love of Jesus, but Jesus described His feelings about them as something that a stone necklace would be better than His judgement. His actions in the beginning was to rain fire and brimstone upon entire cities that were filled with their corruption.
If we are to be on God's side, then shouldn't we agree with the love of Christ for the children? Of course we should and I'm sure you agree.

Yes

But at the same time i have to be mindful the suffering parent doesn't go to prison for the rest of his life for going to far.



It's would be far better to let the authorities deal with it because the authorities can find the evidence, and he will get all the beatings he deserves in prison.

At the same time I have to mindful how innocent people get accused of theese things.

I've looked up all the passages of reprobate and it goes back as far as Adam so perhaps it's befor Christ.

I know it mentions Hebrews but im sure that was aimed at people performing animal sacrifice.

But besides that, it is up to us to care for those going through abuse but really we can't love them more than Jesus can.

And the same for loving our enemy. We can loving them by pointing then Jesus.

 

[Fundaamental]

I got over it by God's grace. I don't know about those who the hill climber got hold of. The guys uncle, who was also a homo nearly bashed a boy's brains out and almost killed that little kid. That was a long time ago and the worthless step dad didn't do a thing to help the child or see justice. God has made sure of it though, no doubt. Jesus addressed it as an offense and His perfect millstone description.

I was one of the teenagers who found out that a trashy f*ggot got hold of family members.
My main concern was whether to use the commemorative Pittsburgh Pirates miniature bat or my full sized baseball bat on that neighbor. My Mother forbade me from following through with family justice and I regretted obeying her for many years. That's one of many problems that occurs when there's divorce and no strong father in the house. A normal father would verify and take appropriate action. Instead that f*g left in the middle of the night and went somewhere else to commit his crimes on many others if he followed the same pattern of the typical reprobates. Why Christians talk about loving those reprobates and nothing about the victims shows the worldly philosophy coming from the pulpits. They talk about having the love of Jesus, but Jesus described His feelings about them as something that a stone necklace would be better than His judgement. His actions in the beginning was to rain fire and brimstone upon entire cities that were filled with their corruption.
If we are to be on God's side, then shouldn't we agree with the love of Christ for the children? Of course we should and I'm sure you agree.

Yes

But at the same time i have to be mindful the suffering parent doesn't go to prison for the rest of his life for going to far.



It's would be far better to let the authorities deal with it because the authorities can find the evidence, and he will get all the beatings he deserves in prison.

At the same time I have to mindful how innocent people get accused of theese things.

I've looked up all the passages of reprobate and it goes back as far as Adam so perhaps it's befor Christ.

I know it mentions Hebrews but im sure that was aimed at people performing animal sacrifice.

But besides that, it is up to us to care for those going through abuse but really we can't love them more than Jesus can.

And the same for loving our enemy. We can only love them by pointing then to Jesus.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yes

But at the same time i have to be mindful the suffering parent doesn't go to prison for the rest of his life for going to far.



It's would be far better to let the authorities deal with it because the authorities can find the evidence, and he will get all the beatings he deserves in prison.

At the same time I have to mindful how innocent people get accused of theese things.

I've looked up all the passages of reprobate and it goes back as far as Adam so perhaps it's befor Christ.

I know it mentions Hebrews but im sure that was aimed at people performing animal sacrifice.

But besides that, it is up to us to care for those going through abuse but really we can't love them more than Jesus can.

And the same for loving our enemy. We can loving them by pointing then Jesus.

All good points.
As to the last sentence, we know that God is angry with the wicked every day. Even though we are supposed to love our enemies, He never commanded us to love everyone.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yes

But at the same time i have to be mindful the suffering parent doesn't go to prison for the rest of his life for going to far.



It's would be far better to let the authorities deal with it because the authorities can find the evidence, and he will get all the beatings he deserves in prison.

At the same time I have to mindful how innocent people get accused of theese things.

I've looked up all the passages of reprobate and it goes back as far as Adam so perhaps it's befor Christ.

I know it mentions Hebrews but im sure that was aimed at people performing animal sacrifice.

But besides that, it is up to us to care for those going through abuse but really we can't love them more than Jesus can.

And the same for loving our enemy. We can only love them by pointing then to Jesus.

As to the reprobate doctrine, the KJV is my source. There are teachings on reprobates that do not use the term. For instance, I'm sure you have read Exodus and are familiar with God sending plagues upon Egypt. They had a reprobate Pharaoh who hardened his heart against God, so God hardened Pharaoh's heart. There was a point when Pharaoh rejected God until it was too late for him.

Here's the father of psychology's sexual teachings/ beliefs. Alfred Kinsey and his ex con research assistants were all reprobates.
The permissive attitudes in academia originate with this Monster.

One pastor's personal illustration. This used to be a common teaching, but is not so much any more. Just another short clip from an old sermon. Lost Forever

Another group who you are familiar with are those who will take the mark of the beast/ number of man upon their right hand or forehead. Once they do that, they seal their fate. They will not get saved at that point.
Revelation ch 13, 14

 

[Fundaamental]

All good points.
As to the last sentence, we know that God is angry with the wicked every day. Even though we are supposed to love our enemies, He never commanded us to love everyone.

no as I said we can't possibly love everyone or forgive everyone.

We can only truly forgive those who repent.

Besides that forgiveness is a personal matter that's not up to me to push on anyone.

I look at things from a perspective of a suffering person who blamed himself for the death of a friend.
It did him no good because he couldn't let go.

No matter how much you comforted him he was always scarred.

And at the same time he was always blamed by others. Until they came to terms with the loss
And accepted my friends apology, but in cases like this its always worse because it's your own flesh and blood and some can never accept the loss.

but this topic was more centred on those that don't do things spoke of here from me.

 

[Fundaamental]

As to the reprobate doctrine, the KJV is my source. There are teachings on reprobates that do not use the term. For instance, I'm sure you have read Exodus and are familiar with God sending plagues upon Egypt. They had a reprobate Pharaoh who hardened his heart against God, so God hardened Pharaoh's heart. There was a point when Pharaoh rejected God until it was too late for him.

Here's the father of psychology's sexual teachings/ beliefs. Alfred Kinsey and his ex con research assistants were all reprobates.
The permissive attitudes in academia originate with this Monster.

One pastor's personal illustration. This used to be a common teaching, but is not so much any more. Just another short clip from an old sermon. Lost Forever

Another group who you are familiar with are those who will take the mark of the beast/ number of man upon their right hand or forehead. Once they do that, they seal their fate. They will not get saved at that point.
Revelation ch 13, 14

he did ask moses to say a prayer for him tho.

And he was killed because God had no other choice.

God even took the life's of his own children, so death of the body doesn't always mean death of a reprobate.

It's why People get given time to repent befor capital punishent

 

[Fundaamental]

God does love those who do and have done terrible sins. But Christ died to save them. Yet the laws of the land were allowed to remove those who shed innocent blood and abuse women and children.

I remember the church when a sister came to church beaten up and was a good woman of God. The husband was drunk and did not go to church. The woman feared for her life and children. So the Pastor, Sheriff, and elders paid that man a visit. He went to jail after the Pastor and the husband had aman to man discussion in which the husband looked worst than his wife afterward. Charges were not brought against the Pastor by the husband. I guess he did not want everyone to know the pastor beat the fool out of him. So went to jail for beating up his wife.

He never touched his wife again and attended church after he got out.

Do you have a sheriff badge 😉

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

We can only truly forgive those who repent.

Besides that forgiveness is a personal matter that's not up to me to push on anyone.

I pray all day long in my thoughts and sometimes do it audibly, but every night I pray the Disciples Prayer that Jesus taught them.

In that Prayer, it says You will be Forgiven IF IF IF IF IF...only 1 IF, you forgive those who sin against you.

So , I hope you forgive everyone.

 

[montana123]

I read somewhere that all nations will succumb to the rule of the beast. Do you think the U.S. will be the exception?

The Bible says that the beast has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues.

The truth is America is the key to the antichrist ruling and their plan to establish the new age movement in the world as religion, and reality, and Republican and Democrat are actually working together which is called the Hegel System.

The Bible says the Babylonian kingdom will never have physical dominion again, but her ways are still on earth.

Which she represents human religion, the occult, the kingdom of man, anything goes multiculturism which is a system like America.

The Bible says a certain nation caused the rest of the world to follow her and she lived deliciously, and in pleasure, and her sins have reached unto heaven, and she did trade with the world.

America is the only nation that represents that.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

he did ask moses to say a prayer for him tho.

And he was killed because God had no other choice.

God even took the life's of his own children, so death of the body doesn't always mean death of a reprobate.

It's why People get given time to repent befor capital punishent

Certainly they should be led to Christ if they are willing. It's that an actual reprobate won't get saved. We often don't know who that will be, but those who receive the mark will be clear that decision will be final.

Here's a teaching why I choose to not pretend to love others more than God does. There are some people who we should not identify with. A very good king of Judah allied himself with King Ahab. Even though king Jehoshaphat was one of the best kings recorded, God's wrath was going to be upon him. I considered that seriously when I saw the push for believers to Allie with LGBTQ+ groups.


1And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem. 2And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD. 3Nevertheless there are good things found in thee, in that thou hast taken away the groves out of the land, and hast prepared thine heart to seek God.

 

[Fundaamental]

I pray all day long in my thoughts and sometimes do it audibly, but every night I pray the Disciples Prayer that Jesus taught them.

In that Prayer, it says You will be Forgiven IF IF IF IF IF...only 1 IF, you forgive those who sin against you.

So , I hope you forgive everyone.

you can't forgive someone unless they repent to you personally or the lord tells you they have repented and serving a worthy punishent for anything serious I can show you in scripture if you want.

 

[Fundaamental]

Certainly they should be led to Christ if they are willing. It's that an actual reprobate won't get saved. We often don't know who that will be, but those who receive the mark will be clear that decision will be final.

Here's a teaching why I choose to not pretend to love others more than God does. There are some people who we should not identify with. A very good king of Judah allied himself with King Ahab. Even though king Jehoshaphat was one of the best kings recorded, God's wrath was going to be upon him. I considered that seriously when I saw the push for believers to Allie with LGBTQ+ groups.


1And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem. 2And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD. 3Nevertheless there are good things found in thee, in that thou hast taken away the groves out of the land, and hast prepared thine heart to seek God.

I really don't know much about the lGBTWQ or + groups.

I just know there should be a church for gays that can pacifically deal with suicidal tendencies or there needs.

Is the lGBTWQ a church ?

Are some of those churches run by people who are no longer committing abominable acts. Or by certified clergy or ministers.

see my discussion wasn't centred around any of this.

but if there was such a church that has proven success rates with less suicidal success, I would point them in that direction.

Because after witnessing all young kids killing themselves as transgenders and gays it's very alarming to me. When you've got kids as young as 13 to 22 killing them selfs.

 

[CS1]

i showed how Science believes in Natural Selection.
Natural Selection is designed to only keep the Species going.
like humans keep being humans.
so, even that would not allow people to be Gay because that keeps humans from breeding to make more humans, which is the opposite of Natural Selection..so Science agrees with the Bible, gays are not born that way.

Sir,

Nature Selection is a theory, not a law. Understand your point but this is a moral issue, not a scientific one. One can be attracted to the same sex and never have a sexual experience where it becomes a sin. I see my son as a good-looking young man and I see my daughters as very attractive. YET I do not desire to sleep with them or have a relationship with them as I do with their mother.

The word of God is very clear on that.

 

[CS1]

i apologize to you cs1, but you came at me and was wrong in what you thought i meant.

no need to apologize you were just Pithy I like that

 

[cv5]

The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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1)The rights of Trans and LGTBQ citizens are fully protected by existing law. And should be.
2) Christians should love Trans and LGTBQ citizens the way that Jesus does. The same way He first loved us.
3) Christians should endeavor to reach out to Trans and LGTBQ citizens with the Gospel of the Kingdom as they do everyone else.

 

[CS1]

I pray all day long in my thoughts and sometimes do it audibly, but every night I pray the Disciples Prayer that Jesus taught them.

In that Prayer, it says You will be Forgiven IF IF IF IF IF...only 1 IF, you forgive those who sin against you.

So, I hope you forgive everyone.

I am going to say something to you. Maybe you did not know. Most of the time, our thoughts are created by our surroundings and from what we see and read. Also, that is the devil's playground in the carnal mind.

When the devil comes and hits you with thoughts that are completely ungodly, that doesn't define you. You have a choice to be a willful participant or rebuke it.

It is not a sin to be tempted unless you apply lust to it and are taken captive by the thought or suggestion.

God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation, he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it (1 Corinthians 10:13).


WE battle the temptation by Submitting to God resist the devil, and HE will flee from you.


James 4:7-8


7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

This is how we fight; we use the word of God as Jesus did when the devil comes to tempt us.

This is a daily battle, and we call on Jesus every time. You will be tempted in the way that brings the most effectiveness in stopping you from doing what God wants you to do. Until you have victory over it. If not, you will always suffer from it.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I really don't know much about the lGBTWQ or + groups.

I just know there should be a church for gays that can pacifically deal with suicidal tendencies or there needs.

Is the lGBTWQ a church ?

Are some of those churches run by people who are no longer committing abominable acts. Or by certified clergy or ministers.

see my discussion wasn't centred around any of this.

but if there was such a church that has proven success rates with less suicidal success, I would point them in that direction.

Because after witnessing all young kids killing themselves as transgenders and gays it's very alarming to me. When you've got kids as young as 13 to 22 killing them selfs.

Who they need isn't a stereotype liberal church led by an unbelieving pastor who is Accepting . They all need the Gospel before it's too late. The LGBTQP+ churches have absolutely nothing good spiritually to contribute to the teenagers. They are most likely exposing them to far more predators in those places. Parents and children who are raised with intact families in good churches will have problems, but not the kind we are talking about in most cases.

 

[Fundaamental]

Who they need isn't a stereotype liberal church led by an unbelieving pastor who is Accepting . They all need the Gospel before it's too late. The LGBTQP+ churches have absolutely nothing good spiritually to contribute to the teenagers. They are most likely exposing them to far more predators in those places. Parents and children who are raised with intact families in good churches will have problems, but not the kind we are talking about in most cases.

I don't know anything about any particular LGBT church,

But I think what you're describing is an online LGBT forum where many individuals can gather.
Or a gay rights movement standing up for there rights.


I couldn't imagine an LGBT church that is a building, where people can go of the street supported by a local pastor who is believing and does follow Christ accordingly, wouldn't also have policies sets in place where existing members are not influenced further.

 

[Aaron56]

The Bible says that the beast has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues.

The truth is America is the key to the antichrist ruling and their plan to establish the new age movement in the world as religion, and reality, and Republican and Democrat are actually working together which is called the Hegel System.

The Bible says the Babylonian kingdom will never have physical dominion again, but her ways are still on earth.

Which she represents human religion, the occult, the kingdom of man, anything goes multiculturism which is a system like America.

The Bible says a certain nation caused the rest of the world to follow her and she lived deliciously, and in pleasure, and her sins have reached unto heaven, and she did trade with the world.

America is the only nation that represents that.

I think the harlot is juxtaposed against the true bride of Christ. Therefore we are looking for a false representation of a chaste church, one who claims spiritual hegemony but is really a hollow shell.

In our time (A.D.) this represents the amalgamation of the state and the church: precisely, like the Roman, Anglican, Ukranian churches, and by delineation, like the Evangelical, Baptist, Methodist churches. Churches promise legacy by means of politics. This is a whore’s exchange and a transactional model of harlotry.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

you can't forgive someone unless they repent to you personally or the lord tells you they have repented and serving a worthy punishent for anything serious I can show you in scripture if you want.

i most certainly can forgive someone without them ever saying sorry or being remorseful over it.