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Yes it is a form of idolatry as the lord is wisdom and gives it to who he chooses.
James 3:13-18;
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter envy and [a]self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. 16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
Blessings.
James 3:13-18;
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter envy and [a]self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. 16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
Blessings.
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Idolatry involves an idol . Something you look to and see they made for instance a golden calf when Moses went up to get the Ten Commandments thisnis an idol “an image they can look at and say this is our god” when Moses was near then no one wanted an idol but when he went wwwy to the Mount for fourty days to receive the law they said “ make us an idol we can bow to and worship we do t know what happened to Moses “
in this interaction you see man’s craving to worship a god and they want to be able to see it and name it and worship it and offer gifts to it ect
everything were wired to do towards the true God man is made to worship God but they continually exalt other man made things to look at and worship
what I’m saying sister is idolatry requires an object to diefy and worship money can be an idol because people will spend thier while loves pursuing it just like we’re supposed temporary God . To some money is power , blessing , a safety net future security ect again everything God is supposed to be to us
an idol is what seeks to supplant and replace God whomis mankind’s true north man’s wisdom takes the form of things like technology , science ect so I’d say yes it could be the source of many idols nd much idolatry
mans thinking is what devises false idols and fables to worship
in this interaction you see man’s craving to worship a god and they want to be able to see it and name it and worship it and offer gifts to it ect
everything were wired to do towards the true God man is made to worship God but they continually exalt other man made things to look at and worship
what I’m saying sister is idolatry requires an object to diefy and worship money can be an idol because people will spend thier while loves pursuing it just like we’re supposed temporary God . To some money is power , blessing , a safety net future security ect again everything God is supposed to be to us
an idol is what seeks to supplant and replace God whomis mankind’s true north man’s wisdom takes the form of things like technology , science ect so I’d say yes it could be the source of many idols nd much idolatry
mans thinking is what devises false idols and fables to worship
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The Bible is crystal clear that wisdom comes from God alone. So man cannot -- and should not -- be viewed as a source of wisdom. As a source of foolishness would be more appropriate. But substituting any thing in the place of God is idolatry. Generally wealth is an idol, but there are many other idols. along with the actual idols of false gods (evil spirits and demons) being worshipped throughout the world. Strangely enough, even though Israel had a direct knowledge of the true and living invisible God, they worshipped idols and paid for it. How do you explain that?
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I an reading Lynn Austin's fiction books based on the kings of Judah and scripture. These books speak of trying to follow every law of the Torah, compared to following idol worship. She shows how Isaiah taught about Christ.
The books tell of the difference between kings who rely on the laws of God, on God, to guide them and the kings who rely on idols, stars, man's intellect, and war for guidance and help.
It is my belief that the old testament is all true, every word. However, the truths are in flesh, not in spirit. We are to obey the spirit of the law, not the flesh. But these books have made me question my understanding of what the idols are that we are not to be guided by.
The books tell of the difference between kings who rely on the laws of God, on God, to guide them and the kings who rely on idols, stars, man's intellect, and war for guidance and help.
It is my belief that the old testament is all true, every word. However, the truths are in flesh, not in spirit. We are to obey the spirit of the law, not the flesh. But these books have made me question my understanding of what the idols are that we are not to be guided by.
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Okay… in light of this, you seem to be saying, We can see what the idols were for the Old Testament Israelites, but what are the ‘idols’ today?
If I am correct in this (please let me know if I’m not), then I would suggest that aside from obvious false gods such as those of Islam, Hinduism, or other religions, the idols today include (primarily) worldly power, prestige and influence, materialism, and self. Certain persons may be subject to others but these are fairly common to most.
Your original post suggested human wisdom, which would be in the category of ’influence’… people thinking that some person (or movement) has all the right answers to the world’s problems. We see this in the environmental movement, among others. People effectively idolize the natural (non-human) world.
What do you think today’s idols are?
If I am correct in this (please let me know if I’m not), then I would suggest that aside from obvious false gods such as those of Islam, Hinduism, or other religions, the idols today include (primarily) worldly power, prestige and influence, materialism, and self. Certain persons may be subject to others but these are fairly common to most.
Your original post suggested human wisdom, which would be in the category of ’influence’… people thinking that some person (or movement) has all the right answers to the world’s problems. We see this in the environmental movement, among others. People effectively idolize the natural (non-human) world.
What do you think today’s idols are?