problem related to praying in tongues

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No, an honest observation. You are confused, clearly.

Not agreeing with you and your understanding of the Bible does not mean I am confused.


No, you don't believe what the Word says.

I don't believe what you think the Word says. There is a difference.

I already told you, I don't play head games. You're in serious error.

We'll find out....


It's one thing to be confident. It's another to be insulting and accusatory.

Thank you, I would hope you mean that. I have a very difficult week ahead.
I mean it.
 
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aren't you able to Discern them from how God see's them in the future because they will never change?

a wolf will always be a wolf.
This was to cs1 before posting Titus 2:13 that clearly and explicitly states OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WHO GAVE HIMSELF FOR US. .

See, wolves will always be wolves even with plain Bible Verses from 3rd Century Ancient Greek and he still denies JESUS is God.


I discerned it days ago.
 
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This was to cs1 before posting Titus 2:13 that clearly and explicitly states OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WHO GAVE HIMSELF FOR US. .

See, wolves will always be wolves even with plain Bible Verses from 3rd Century Ancient Greek and he still denies JESUS is God.

I discerned it days ago.
You're clinging to a hand-picked translation of ONE verse to declare me a "wolf."

People always go to their favorite proof-texts rather than address these scripture:

John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus Christ is the Son OF God, the man who learned FROM God, the man ordained and approved BY God, the man who HAS a God, the man who ascended TO his God, was raised from the dead BY God, was glorified and highly exalted BY God, was given all authority BY God. He set aside his own will to do God's will. He was a prophet "like unto Moses." He is the "second man," the "last Adam." The Passover Lamb was to be a "lamb from the flock," in this case, the flock of humanity. Jesus Christ died, God cannot die.

How hard would it be for a "God-man" to do what Jesus Christ did?

Think about it..
 

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You're clinging to a hand-picked translation of ONE verse to declare me a "wolf."

People always go to their favorite proof-texts rather than address these scripture:

John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus Christ is the Son OF God, the man who learned FROM God, the man ordained and approved BY God, the man who HAS a God, the man who ascended TO his God, was raised from the dead BY God, was glorified and highly exalted BY God, was given all authority BY God. He was a prophet "like unto Moses." He is the "second man," the "last Adam." The Passover Lamb was to be a "lamb from the flock," in this case, the flock of humanity. Jesus Christ died, God cannot die.

Think about it..
Those verses purposely show Jesus' humanity and submission to the Father. But other verses reveal Jesus as God and have Him acting by His own authority and power. How do you handle Titus 2:13?
 
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Those verses purposely show Jesus' humanity and submission to the Father.
Of course they do. He did nothing on his own, but only what the Father (God) showed him (John 5:30).

But other verses reveal Jesus as God
Where? (I know, I know... John 8 with the "I AM"s; John 20:28; Titus 2:13; 1 Tim 3:16; 2 Pet 1:1)

and have Him acting by His own authority and power. How do you handle Titus 2:13?
https://christianchat.com/threads/problem-related-to-praying-in-tongues.210844/post-5112234
 
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He refuses the truest 3rd Century Greek for the 10th Century Latin Vulgate translated Greek Erasmus admitted corrupt Textus Receptus.

Dude, DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!
 

Cameron143

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He refuses the truest 3rd Century Greek for the 10th Century Latin Vulgate Erasmus admitted corrupt Textus Receptus.

Dude DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!
He does want truth. Through patience and prayer many are increased in understanding. So get your water can out and leave room for God to work.
 
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He does want truth. Through patience and prayer many are increased in understanding. So get your water can out and leave room for God to work.
He was raised in the truth and made a conscious decision to deny it.

He was raised trinity.

Once you leave you don't go back.
 
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He refuses the truest 3rd Century Greek for the 10th Century Latin Vulgate translated Greek Erasmus admitted corrupt Textus Receptus.

Dude, DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!
I do not give red Xs very often at all, but that post deserved one.
 
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I do not give red Xs very often at all, but that post deserved one.
Hey, what are the chances you ever believing the Trinity again?

That you will be able to read the Bible and see the Trinity ever again?
 
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Hey, what are the chances you ever believing the Trinity again?

That you will be able to read the Bible and see the Trinity ever again?
In this life? Zero.

If I'm wrong in my understanding of who Jesus Christ is and who God is, it will take Jesus Christ himself to tell me so.
 
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i will be praying for you, man.
we all need prayer.
but a part of me feels deeply saddened and horrified.
i don't care if anyone is oneness or trinity, we only get to the Father through Jesus Christ.
but honestly, i would be feeling much better if your oneness was that Jesus is God.
it is what it is.