Ukraine the bad guy?

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ZNP

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how will the pro ukraine folks spin this???
Probably something like this:

Rules for thee and not for Me

"We have contributed significantly as a faithful ally and faithful to our words and promises to Ukraine because we have provided them with effective weapons which will kill innocent civilians, which same promises be mindful are the same ones Evil Russia transgressed, how their word means nothing as they kill innocent civilians. The West is holy and good because we use these weapons for good, to dislodge Wicked Putin.

We see proofs daily that God destroys Unholy Russia on one hand so highly that for them really they have not seen losses like this since the Russian Revolution that inaugurated their Evil principality (Ephesians 6:12). So we rejoice that Ukraine can now use such destructive and deadly weapons on their own citizens. Our God is like a strong shield and sends scatter bombs like winds of refreshments to the Good Guys of Ukraine. The one and only True and Fatihful God will simultaenously defend the Truth and slaughter the servants of the Liar. Yes many children and civilians will also water the ground with their blood. Indeed to the last point, watch and know all nations that there is indeed a God that is real and alive and active and powerful and strong and an avenger of the good guys and a bane of the villains; both a faithful defender; an unconquerable warrior and even a third, an infallible strategist, and he will win this war with cluster bombs and you will not be able to deny that he is God when you see him wipe the blood of Unholy Russia from the soles of your feet, Serfdom Of Satan, out of existence in its entirety even into the spiritual realm. Ukraine also will be bloodied and yet will not succumb to be victims again to Wicked Russia's intent to enslave them, especially for a bunch of lies! Praise the God that gives Ukraine these bombs!"

*Adapted from a post by lightbearer
 

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Probably something like this:

Rules for thee and not for Me

"We have contributed significantly as a faithful ally and faithful to our words and promises to Ukraine because we have provided them with effective weapons which will kill innocent civilians, which same promises be mindful are the same ones Evil Russia transgressed, how their word means nothing as they kill innocent civilians. The West is holy and good because we use these weapons for good, to dislodge Wicked Putin.

We see proofs daily that God destroys Unholy Russia on one hand so highly that for them really they have not seen losses like this since the Russian Revolution that inaugurated their Evil principality (Ephesians 6:12). So we rejoice that Ukraine can now use such destructive and deadly weapons on their own citizens. Our God is like a strong shield and sends scatter bombs like winds of refreshments to the Good Guys of Ukraine. The one and only True and Fatihful God will simultaenously defend the Truth and slaughter the servants of the Liar. Yes many children and civilians will also water the ground with their blood. Indeed to the last point, watch and know all nations that there is indeed a God that is real and alive and active and powerful and strong and an avenger of the good guys and a bane of the villains; both a faithful defender; an unconquerable warrior and even a third, an infallible strategist, and he will win this war with cluster bombs and you will not be able to deny that he is God when you see him wipe the blood of Unholy Russia from the soles of your feet, Serfdom Of Satan, out of existence in its entirety even into the spiritual realm. Ukraine also will be bloodied and yet will not succumb to be victims again to Wicked Russia's intent to enslave them, especially for a bunch of lies! Praise the God that gives Ukraine these bombs!"

*Adapted from a post by lightbearer
Realistically, how is this counter-offensive going? I mean.....realistically?
Realistically, it is a turkey shoot. Russian IST and fire control is wiping out entire columns and platoons in mere minutes, this because all incoming roads to the front are being scrupulously observed and covered. And the AFU knows it.

 

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New "meat grinder" "let the bodies hit the floor" tactics.....
But Z is more than willing in order to goose NATO further into the fray.
The more dead bodies, the more the war escalates. Funny how that works.
Satan is pleased. As are his human minions.

 

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Realistically, how is this counter-offensive going? I mean.....realistically?
Realistically, it is a turkey shoot. Russian IST and fire control is wiping out entire columns and platoons in mere minutes, this because all incoming roads to the front are being scrupulously observed and covered. And the AFU knows it.

BTW....this was early June. They have tried to switch tactics. Yet, the bodies are piling up to the moon anyways.
 

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this so strange. admitting we arent suppose to use cluster bombs and then sending them.
 

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ive been thinking again. i didnt mean too it just happened. i seen a video describing how the eu/nato countries were all going to spend a certain amount of money on weapons for the last 10 years but havent. makes me think this is all to do with making weapons manufacturers richer than they already are
 

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USA sending cluster munitions, not much of a game changer really.
Evidently, Russia has multiples of US inventory in waiting. Not only that, the shells need to make it to the front, an arduous task fraught with many episodes of interdiction. Such logistical problems are nonexistent in Russia of course.

The main effect will be more dead AFU soldiers much more quickly....if Russia responds in kind.

"Even with this boost, the AFU will fire only 20-25% of weekly numbers of RU artillery fire. Moreover, RU’s significantly increased inventories of FPV drones and Lancets are degrading AFU artillery at a much higher rate since March. By Sep, UA will have 1/3 fewer 155 artillery."

 

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house in laos with duds as supports. cluster bombs dont always go off and when they dont they leave behind deadly traps for those who disturb them
 

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Great news to conclude July 4th week, praise Jesus. Insane wicked Putin relieves wicked Gerasimov of his command in Ukraine, this is the 4th change of commanders within a year and half for Russia. Meanwhile the valiant Ukrainians are gaining ground all over Zaporozhia and even have managed to establish big gains across the Dnipro River. Several veteran skilled commanders of Ukraine's excellent Azov battalion have returned to fight against Unholy Russia. Ukrainians are making so much gains thanks to Lord Jesus, that President Zelensky was even able to personally travel to the south, to Snake Island, where the Wicked Russians first attacked last year. The Wicked Russian women testify that their men are gulty of all the sins of the Unholy Russian regime and futilely plea with their Evil Tsar to let their men return home for an extended time, their pleas fall upon deaf ears and they are wholly excommunicated for siding with Satan, their prayers to their wicked Tsar will not be heard. Wicked Russia's lines are breaking, Jesus is strengthening Ukraine, internally Wicked Russia is falling apart as the Holy God turns them over to all chaos and disaster under the hand of Wicked Putin. PRAISE JESUS!
 

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Great news to conclude July 4th week, praise Jesus. Insane wicked Putin relieves wicked Gerasimov of his command in Ukraine, this is the 4th change of commanders within a year and half for Russia. Meanwhile the valiant Ukrainians are gaining ground all over Zaporozhia and even have managed to establish big gains across the Dnipro River. Several veteran skilled commanders of Ukraine's excellent Azov battalion have returned to fight against Unholy Russia. Ukrainians are making so much gains thanks to Lord Jesus, that President Zelensky was even able to personally travel to the south, to Snake Island, where the Wicked Russians first attacked last year. The Wicked Russian women testify that their men are gulty of all the sins of the Unholy Russian regime and futilely plea with their Evil Tsar to let their men return home for an extended time, their pleas fall upon deaf ears and they are wholly excommunicated for siding with Satan, their prayers to their wicked Tsar will not be heard. Wicked Russia's lines are breaking, Jesus is strengthening Ukraine, internally Wicked Russia is falling apart as the Holy God turns them over to all chaos and disaster under the hand of Wicked Putin. PRAISE JESUS!
Helpful advice from the Ministry of Truth

For those of you having a hard time determining when it is acceptable to praise Jesus for all the people being killed in this war and when it is acceptable to condemn for all the people being killed in this war I hope this will help:

Acceptable Adjectives:

All Russians -- Insane and wicked, unholy and evil, they side with Satan.

All Ukrainians -- Valiant and skilled, being strengthened by Jesus to bring disaster.

If you want to Praise Jesus, praise him that Zelensky was able to travel to snake island.*

*All credit to Lightbearer for telling us this.

Please do be careful in your choice of adjectives as a woman in Australia was arrested and pending trial for two years for posting something on facebook advertising a freedom rally which was not an approved government post.


I hope everyone realizes this is sarcasm
 

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Helpful advice from the Ministry of Truth

For those of you having a hard time determining when it is acceptable to praise Jesus for all the people being killed in this war and when it is acceptable to condemn for all the people being killed in this war I hope this will help:

Acceptable Adjectives:

All Russians -- Insane and wicked, unholy and evil, they side with Satan.

All Ukrainians -- Valiant and skilled, being strengthened by Jesus to bring disaster.

If you want to Praise Jesus, praise him that Zelensky was able to travel to snake island.*

*All credit to Lightbearer for telling us this.

Please do be careful in your choice of adjectives as a woman in Australia was arrested and pending trial for two years for posting something on facebook advertising a freedom rally which was not an approved government post.


I hope everyone realizes this is sarcasm
guess he missed the part where ukraine is almost out of ammo......