problem related to praying in tongues
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When I speak in tongues, it is a very resonant syllable sound that sounds like I am speaking GREEK, HEBREW, LATIN, CHINESE, JAPANESE, SPANISH, ALL AT THE SAME TIME... for just ONE SYLLABLE SOUND. Anyone else pray in tongues like this? I know english, spanish, chinese, and japanese, and when I pray in tongues it makes sense in all 4 languages individually. The sentences are varied in vocabulary meaning, but the miraculous part of it is that in ENGLISH, SPANISH, JAPANESE, AND CHINESE, the main point of each language meaning in this praying in tongues sentence is THE SAME, but in MULTIPLE LANGUAGES!
I have had someone who knew English, and didn't know Chinese, and someone who knew Chinese and didn't know English, and they said they heard "The song is hilariously funny and loving" in their own language, one in English, and the other in Chinese. And when we got a person gifted with the supernatural gift of the Holy Spirit of interpretation of tongues (2 people by the way in separate rooms, not sharing among each other), he and she said THE INTERPRETATION was "The song is hilariously funny and loving!" EXACTLY THE SAME!
ISN'T THIS CRAZY AMAZING!?
From my experience, supernatural praying in tongues should not be just gibberish, but can be understood by people also in their own language (Acts 2) and also with help of gift of interpretation of tongues (1 Corinthians 14). If it is missing either, it is not the full supernatural gift of praying in tongues according to your very own bible.
Anyone else pray like this?!
I, as a multi-lingual polyglot, definitely agree that the Holy Spirit definitely trumps whatever language learning and skill that I have EVER LEARNED, SPOKE, OR HEARD, OR PRACTICED. (AND I KNOW 4 LANGUAGES!) PRAISE BE TO GOD!
ALLELUIA!
--Forest DYFONG
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When I speak in tongues, it is a very resonant syllable sound that sounds like I am speaking GREEK, HEBREW, LATIN, CHINESE, JAPANESE, SPANISH, ALL AT THE SAME TIME... for just ONE SYLLABLE SOUND. Anyone else pray in tongues like this? I know english, spanish, chinese, and japanese, and when I pray in tongues it makes sense in all 4 languages individually. The sentences are varied in vocabulary meaning, but the miraculous part of it is that in ENGLISH, SPANISH, JAPANESE, AND CHINESE, the main point of each language meaning in this praying in tongues sentence is THE SAME, but in MULTIPLE LANGUAGES!
I have had someone who knew English, and didn't know Chinese, and someone who knew Chinese and didn't know English, and they said they heard "The song is hilariously funny and loving" in their own language, one in English, and the other in Chinese. And when we got a person gifted with the supernatural gift of the Holy Spirit of interpretation of tongues (2 people by the way in separate rooms, not sharing among each other), he and she said THE INTERPRETATION was "The song is hilariously funny and loving!" EXACTLY THE SAME!
ISN'T THIS CRAZY AMAZING!?
From my experience, supernatural praying in tongues should not be just gibberish, but can be understood by people also in their own language (Acts 2) and also with help of gift of interpretation of tongues (1 Corinthians 14). If it is missing either, it is not the full supernatural gift of praying in tongues according to your very own bible.
Anyone else pray like this?!
I, as a multi-lingual polyglot, definitely agree that the Holy Spirit definitely trumps whatever language learning and skill that I have EVER LEARNED, SPOKE, OR HEARD, OR PRACTICED. (AND I KNOW 4 LANGUAGES!) PRAISE BE TO GOD!
ALLELUIA!
--Forest DYFONG
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not where you can't discover that Jesus is not God!
i am taking the liberty of how it could look like if someone, being given utterance and cannot speak but only can moan would like.
if 12 Apostles made such a scene people thought they were drunk, it seems reasonable moaning in the spirit ain't sitting on your butt like a poised man.
i am taking the liberty of how it could look like if someone, being given utterance and cannot speak but only can moan would like.
if 12 Apostles made such a scene people thought they were drunk, it seems reasonable moaning in the spirit ain't sitting on your butt like a poised man.
Here are five examples of transcribed tongues-speech (sorry, it's all in a loosely done IPA, so if you're not familiar with IPA, it may not help much).
Tongues-speech is not written; however, it can be transcribed.
(1)/kɪtní níɛ tu xutúnum ɛníɛ kí niɛ’ túnunu məša:tí néɛta:/
/kununú šɛtí pití ɛté ne níɛ ná: nɛní kujutú nu new níɛ/
/así tɛté: tu nunú kutú məníɛ tɛtíɛ níɛ tatatá jɛté/
/kušá túnu mujuné nɛní kití anɛnú šɛté nɛníɛlɛ/
/sipú ju tú nunú jɛnɛ’ mí tíɛ/
/kitá tutú mə níɛ tínɛ níɛ tútutu məníɛ tí tíɛ/
(2)/….bra. Túnde iphása bróse,
barósunda káte brósa,
bathúse; áse, áse, áse./
So (Engl.), /brakánde ipháse.
Bóše! Bóše, bóše basúnde ísa, ása máse./
(3)/mɛ’na xajlɛ’j xala’ja, mɛnxa’j ɛlɛji’ɛ lɛ lɛ’j xomue’mənti ei’ nana’j kɛ’rɛš ka’muean.
E ma’jɛ leli’ ɛl ku’eu, ijɛn če I’rara kani’ški kui’aj mu ma’j ka’nə pe’u irara’.
E xala’ xalaj’ə xale’lɪn jɪ’lɪleku ilæ ko’j mu maj pemɪnɪ’ški.
Ke’to ilɛ itiɛnana’j fɛni’ xuj maxa’j ɛxɛlæ’.
E xala’j xale’j xala’maj i’əlɛgi’ ɛrɛxu’ i ɛmama’j iə ti ɛnɛnɛ’j tɪ’ški ku’j emamata’mbɛtæ’./
(4)/Ribababaší toromó kijɛtɛ’j. Makjandarabá šandorobó kjáta. Satará kandorobó kirɪbáka:. Ribandarabá šandí ko kararibíš. Sitíŋ garabáš šandarabó kondiká. Mánda kašikarandorobó šija:tí. Mararabá ŋarabɔ’:š. Šití koró gəgəšɪ’ndarabakjá. Mándi kísi turukí karabáš:. Diribí šíti karabá torobó kɪ’ndi. Ríbababá šɪ’tɛ ka: šandorobó kɪ’ta. Masíta katórobo šɪ’ti ka:. Šɪ’kandaraba kókɛj. Makjáraba šándorobó kjánta. Šɪtí kiribá šúndurubú kja. Mándaraba katarabá: dokó šɪtí. Murijaté kándarabá šandurú ku. Síti korábabababá ndoró:./
(5)/kénte héči, héči kího hóro/
/máča kité la móčo/
/rána mačé ne kitá lau/
/rɛ’na še kí na máto/
Tongues-speech is not written; however, it can be transcribed.
(1)/kɪtní níɛ tu xutúnum ɛníɛ kí niɛ’ túnunu məša:tí néɛta:/
/kununú šɛtí pití ɛté ne níɛ ná: nɛní kujutú nu new níɛ/
/así tɛté: tu nunú kutú məníɛ tɛtíɛ níɛ tatatá jɛté/
/kušá túnu mujuné nɛní kití anɛnú šɛté nɛníɛlɛ/
/sipú ju tú nunú jɛnɛ’ mí tíɛ/
/kitá tutú mə níɛ tínɛ níɛ tútutu məníɛ tí tíɛ/
(2)/….bra. Túnde iphása bróse,
barósunda káte brósa,
bathúse; áse, áse, áse./
So (Engl.), /brakánde ipháse.
Bóše! Bóše, bóše basúnde ísa, ása máse./
(3)/mɛ’na xajlɛ’j xala’ja, mɛnxa’j ɛlɛji’ɛ lɛ lɛ’j xomue’mənti ei’ nana’j kɛ’rɛš ka’muean.
E ma’jɛ leli’ ɛl ku’eu, ijɛn če I’rara kani’ški kui’aj mu ma’j ka’nə pe’u irara’.
E xala’ xalaj’ə xale’lɪn jɪ’lɪleku ilæ ko’j mu maj pemɪnɪ’ški.
Ke’to ilɛ itiɛnana’j fɛni’ xuj maxa’j ɛxɛlæ’.
E xala’j xale’j xala’maj i’əlɛgi’ ɛrɛxu’ i ɛmama’j iə ti ɛnɛnɛ’j tɪ’ški ku’j emamata’mbɛtæ’./
(4)/Ribababaší toromó kijɛtɛ’j. Makjandarabá šandorobó kjáta. Satará kandorobó kirɪbáka:. Ribandarabá šandí ko kararibíš. Sitíŋ garabáš šandarabó kondiká. Mánda kašikarandorobó šija:tí. Mararabá ŋarabɔ’:š. Šití koró gəgəšɪ’ndarabakjá. Mándi kísi turukí karabáš:. Diribí šíti karabá torobó kɪ’ndi. Ríbababá šɪ’tɛ ka: šandorobó kɪ’ta. Masíta katórobo šɪ’ti ka:. Šɪ’kandaraba kókɛj. Makjáraba šándorobó kjánta. Šɪtí kiribá šúndurubú kja. Mándaraba katarabá: dokó šɪtí. Murijaté kándarabá šandurú ku. Síti korábabababá ndoró:./
(5)/kénte héči, héči kího hóro/
/máča kité la móčo/
/rána mačé ne kitá lau/
/rɛ’na še kí na máto/
each example you've provided, do you know the natural language of each example?
just trying to sound these out and it is nothing i've ever heard and i've been in huge Church Assemblies like Dwight Thompson, Lester Sumrall, RJ Shambauch, etc...big 5k seating arena's full of people Speaking in Tongues. when i am not Speaking in Tongues in big congregations like this, i walk around watching others. i am always looking for a FAKE....nope, always wanting to see what God is doing that i can't see from where i was.
just trying to sound these out and it is nothing i've ever heard and i've been in huge Church Assemblies like Dwight Thompson, Lester Sumrall, RJ Shambauch, etc...big 5k seating arena's full of people Speaking in Tongues. when i am not Speaking in Tongues in big congregations like this, i walk around watching others. i am always looking for a FAKE....nope, always wanting to see what God is doing that i can't see from where i was.
you don't believe Jesus is the WORD, you don't accept that the foretold name of the MESSIAH in Jeremiah is YHWH and pre-incarnate Jesus said to Moses He was that plus also Elohim, Yahweh, MOST HIGH GOD, LORD, TO BE....you don't believe none of that, so NO WAY are you a Christian, in the TRUE sense as someone whose Jesus is as I mentioned, GOD!
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
I hope that one day you'll take those verses to heart.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
I hope that one day you'll take those verses to heart.