[Unforgivable Sin] Finally! Scriptural Defense That One CAN'T Commit IT (Unpardonable Sin)

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Dear Fellow Believers Who Worry About The Unforgivable Sin OR The Unpardonable Sin OR Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,

I have posted this link before but THIS HELPED SAVE TWO OF MY BEST BUDDIES PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL LIVES RECENTLY!

This helped SAVE their LIVES FROM MENTAL-ILLNESS DRUGS, SUICIDE, AND A LIFETIME OF BEING TRAPPED BY PSYCHIATRISTS AND HOSPITAL STAYS (MORE LIKE BAKER'S ACT MEDICAL KIDNAPPING)

I found this great resource that details and answers many worries about the unforgivable sin and unpardonable sin.

For those who don't want to look at the resource, I'll summarize part of it in this forum post as best as I can for those needing immediate help.

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The is a website of the article is called: UnforgivableSin.org.

The article is: "What is the Unforgivable Sin?"

What is most refreshing about this article as opposed to most of the other sub-par, inadequate answers that other websites, shepherds, prophets, pastors, teachers, and scholars preach and promote is that THIS ARTICLE uses scripture to interpret scripture. EXEGESIS AT ITS FINEST!

This article also uses scripture and plain original GREEK (original language that the Gospels were written in) grammar and meanings to get to a point where the writer's main MESSAGE is that it is DEFINITIVELY, SCRIPTURALLY IMPOSSIBLE for any sincere person or any sincere sinner to commit blasphemy of the holy ghost or Holy Spirit, or SCRIPTURALLY IMPOSSIBLE to commit the " unforgivable or unpardonable " sin.

The article writer's visuals and quotes and emphasis are really helpful to drive this point home, but I'll try to summarize without plagiarizing:

1) The word for "Blaspheming" the Holy Spirit is in present tense in the Bible.

2) Greek present tense verbs often also mean CONTINUALLY AND NEVER STOPPING A VERB ACTION.

3) Thus blaspheming the Holy Spirit (what JESUS meant) is CONTINUALLY AND NEVER EVER STOPPING: BLASPHEMING/CURSING/TALKING BAD/DENYING SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES/DENYING JESUS. If you repent, you can always be forgiven. If you NEVER repent, obviously you can't ever be fully forgiven completely.

DONE!

The website article above quotes the bible verses, has infographics, bolds important words of emphasis, and lays it out in a super elegant way. They go out of their way to prove, using the scriptures like a BEREAN, that the scriptures define and literally say and mean that it is impossible to commit the unforgivable sin.

All the website content is ALL FREE. Such a gem for me that came in a desperate time for my buddies.

May you all be blessed too!

Sincerely,

Forest DYFONG
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[Artios1]

My only problem with the continual ...never stopping is that blasphemy is singular.
You are correct that no brethren.... born again person need to be concerned about it.

I have heard many different assessments of what the unforgivable sin is ….and honestly the Bible does not come right out and state it…………which is a good thing.

Hopefully I can make this understandable


Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

That is a scripture we are all familiar with….

In that verse we see the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. Now we know that the woman doesn’t have seed, but we know the reference to that was our savior Jesus Christ. (Luk 1:35)

In addition to that… we know that by making Jesus Christ Lord in our life we are born again (Rom 10:9&10) to which we receive the incorruptible seed (spirit) 1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

You can’t lose seed (spirit) Just as you cannot lose the seed of your earthly father no matter what you do, seed is seed. Your natural body has the seed of your earthly father, a born again person (body, soul, spirit) has the incorruptible seed of God. Once a person is born again of God’s seed …they cannot commit the unforgivable sin. You can deny God, curse the bible, and beat up Christians for the rest of your life, but you won’t change the seed of God within you.

These are the related biblical scripture on unforgivable sin (Mat 12:31&32, Mar 3:28&29, Luk 12:10, 1Jo 3:8-12) But I do want to note a few things from Mat 12:31 and Jhn 8:13ff.



Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [singular] against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.

They shall not be forgiven is in the sense of absolute cannot be forgiven…

With “The” article the Spirit is referencing God …who is spirit (Jhn 4:24)

There is only one sin that is unalterable…. thus making it unforgivable according to God ….that is being born of the devils seed. It is unalterable just as the seed of God in you is unalterable it cannot be change and thus makes it unforgivable.



Jhn 8:44 tells us why →Ye are of your father the devil,← and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

((I would suggest reading all of Jhn 8:12-59))



Our Father is God …we acquired that position as children when we were born again (seed). At the time Christ spoke this to the Jews…. the new birth was not available to believers… as it is now.

The Pharisees acquired a position as children of darkness. Remember it had been 400 years without a prophet…and in those years of Babylonian mysticism and occult practices…the devil had a field day. These guys were supposed to be the ones who maintained the statutes and practices that God had set up …but instead, they went by the way of Cain.

What I am stating is this. God can’t (it’s impossible) forgive someone who makes the serpent their father…because that is seed … seed of the devil…. and seed is seed …it can’t be changed.


I have met those of seed when I was a priest in the satanic arena which I practiced in before God rescued me. You would never know them if you met them on the street, in the banking arena, religious hierarchy, the music industry, or the political arena… although ….God may inform you if it was necessary …but for the most part they would appear like normal people as the Pharisees did in their time.

And if you notice Jesus did not rebuke them (cast them out) in John because He couldn’t…. devil spirits you can cast out …..seed you cannot…it’s permanent.


Of course, what you believe is up to you, …. but that is what I know from both experience and what the truth of the Word indicates.

A person born again cannot commit the unforgivable sin. And a natural person has to be fully aware of what they are doing to make Satan their father …it cannot happen accidently.

 

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[Artlos1 said: "What I am stating is this. God can’t (it’s impossible) forgive someone who makes the serpent their father…because that is seed … seed of the devil…. and seed is seed …it can’t be changed."]

" Dear Bro In Christ,

The problem I have with this statement you stated, is that it is not what JESUS ever said. I have searched many Bible versions, and this "inference" statement that you are making, Jesus never directly said, so I am really hesitant on considering your statement.

I'll rather be safe than sorry and let the Judging of what and who is unforgivable or not unforgivable to JESUS and HIS WORDS In SCRIPTURE THAT CANNOT BE BROKEN.

We can all agree that you are not better than Jesus. Why add to JESUS' words when he never directly said the children of the devil are never forgiven. Search the Bible! I can't find even ONE scripture of JESUS saying this in ANY Bible version.

It is WRITTEN: REVELATION 22:18 " For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.... "

I mean no offence to you as a brother in Christ, but I am super paranoid when people are not verbatim referring to JESUS' words but adding conjecture or interpretation to JESUS' verbatim words. Experience or no experience, no human's understanding and wisdom can Beat GOD and JESUS understanding and wisdom in SCRIPTURE THAT CANNOT BE BROKEN. What Jesus verbatim already said, is enough for salvation (John wrote this in the end of the GOSPEL BOOK OF JOHN), and all defense and spiritual warfare. IT IS WRITTEN, THE SERVANT IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS LORD (KJV). We need to be content with JESUS' finished work>>>if it is good enough for JESUS, I will not venture to add to it.

AND HISTORICALLY, in the old testament, presuming (assuming rashly or assuming too fast) what God means outside of the verbatim plain language meaning that GOD spoke, gets SO MANY PASTORS, SHEPHERDS, TEACHERS, AND SINNERS in TROUBLE. IT EVEN GOT FAKE PROPHETS AND SEMI-TRUE PROPHETS (>>>SEE STORY OF BALAAM) KILLED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT! Doesn't it say in the Bible that " GOD changes not? " Why would God lie and show favoritism to new testament believers? " IT is written, GOD is not a respecter of persons (KJV), and JESUS Is The SAME Yesterday, Today, And FOREVER (KJV). "

I'm just a little paranoid when people don't prefer to just quote JESUS verbatim. Maybe I am a little weird like that. But it is JESUS' words so why not, right?

Anyways, I appreciate the chance for bro's iron sharpens iron blessings.

Be both try to agree with THE TRUTH as best as we can anyways. " WE ARE AGREED" IN THIS WAY.

Love you and all our family here on the CHAT and FORUM.

Looking forward to much stimulating talks.

BLESSINGS TO EVERYONE!

--Forest DYFONG
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[Nehemiah6]

I have posted this link before but THIS HELPED SAVE TWO OF MY BEST BUDDIES PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL LIVES RECENTLY!

While no will question whether your buddies were helped, there is a serious problem with what is posted in that link, and I quote: 2. Some say it is when a person says or accuses that a miracle of the Holy Spirit is done by the devil or Satan (Beelzebub). People who believe this interpretation are more “by the textbook”-oriented and get this understanding merely from what the text in the Bible says.

1. He is calling the Bible a "text book" which is incorrect. It is the Word of God.

2. We are to take what is written in the Bible in its plain literal sense, unless there is reason believe that it is a metaphor or figure of speech.

3. So what do we see in Mark 3: 22-30 in its plain literal sense?
MARK 3: THE BLASPHEMING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils [Satan] casteth he out devils.

23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. 27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

So what we have here is a false, malicious, and blasphemous accusation made by the scribes against Christ. In the casting out of demons by Christ, they deliberately attributed the work of God the Holy Spirit to Satan. This was not accidental but deliberate. Therefore it was an unpardonable sin, and the accusers would be eternally damned.

Can this happen today? Absolutely. Enemies of Christ can still make such false accusations and attribute to Satan the miracles of God and Christ. And that would in fact be an unpardonable or unforgiveable sin.

 

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Nehemiah6 said: Can this happen today? Absolutely. Enemies of Christ can still make such false accusations and attribute to Satan the miracles of God and Christ. And that would in fact be an unpardonable or unforgiveable sin.

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Strictly speaking, the definitions of the Greek words and grammar of the passage in original Greek (I took classical and Ancient GREEK in college and was a scholar and can speak it some) say and mean CONTINUALLY Attribute the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil, not a single action.

Furthermore, in the cultural contexts and verbatim language, there is NO: ---denotation or connotation, or hint of any distinction or communication of any Greek word or meaning or even homophone of "maliciously deliberate", "unintentional", "ignorant", or "accidental"--- being AT ALL mentioned by JESUS. It's JUST NOT THERE AT ALL. You are just ADDING to the Word Of God when you say JESUS meant all these DELUSIONAL extra meanings and words of "deliberate" or "not deliberate".

Don't believe me? Hire a language expert or linguistics professional and they will tell you straight and bluntly too! My formal education in University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with a double major at Duke for it's " divinity school courses " can confirm that the article writer knows his or her stuff: LANGUAGE, HISTORY, THEOLOGY, EVEN ORIGINAL ANCIENT TEXTS!

With my schooling, i can confirm: (1) JESUS' Spoken VERBATIM Words that were recorded, (2) Cultural Contexts OF JESUS' Words, (3) the Ancient World's lexicon/dictionary DEFINITIONS Of JESUS' Words, (4) the plain "in Roman-occupation-culture" universally-understood elementary school GRAMMAR structure, and (5) ancient language homophones (puns: master-level language-learning feat of wonder) that would otherwise confuse foreigners or children beginning to learn GREEK, ARAMAIC, OR HEBREW.

I can confirm the what the article writer wrote now after reading his or her article, but I can't take the credit of putting it all together so elegantly to explain that it is impossible for a sincere person to commit the unforgivable sin.

I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR IT TO BE LINGUISTICALLY AND VERBATIM, SCRIPTURALLY PROVEN (EXEGETICALLY).

For those who are BEREAN TYPES and ' Sola Scriptura ' TYPES, this article in the original post is a real TREASURE! But maybe brothers and sisters who like the BIBLE like this are just weird. I have been called strange and weird at times.

Anyways, Thank U Nehemiah6 for the bro-to-brother " iron sharpens iron " privilege BLESSINGS.

It is like 1am here and I pulled an all nighter last night, so I should probably get some sleep.

BLESSINGS TO NEHEMIAH6, ARTIOS1, AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WELCOMES ME KINDLY AND ALL OUR FAMILY!

HAVE A GREAT, GREAT NIGHT!

--Forest DYFONG
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[The_Watchers_2017]

Jesus, spoke in Aramaic and why there's portion of the Greek not translated because the Greek had no word with same meaning as Aramaic. Greek don't mean squat! the real meaning is found in the literal Language Jesus Spoke it in. translate the Aramaic and get educated!


But it would be more than i could ever comprehend should someone who follows God would ever choose to Blaspheme the Holy Spirit. it seems insane to me that a Christian would ever want to try and see if this Command is true or not.

 

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Jesus, spoke in Aramaic and why there's portion of the Greek not translated because the Greek had no word with same meaning as Aramaic. Greek don't mean squat! the real meaning is found in the literal Language Jesus Spoke it in. translate the Aramaic and get educated!

(***I LOOK UP AND PRAY*** Dear God, how can I be gentle? I ask for help...)

To The_Watchers_2017: " um... I assume... you... NEVER... went to a prestigious theological or seminary college. Cuz, your naiveté (being naive) and ignorance, tells me you don't know what on earth you are talking about.

Get educated?! I have a double major in linguistics and religious studies with a masters in Classical Texts And Manuscripts, 8 YEARS of formal college education in this stuff!

If you don't want to pay for a college education in Hebrew and Aramaic studies because you or your family are too poor or don't have enough time for a college education, name your donation price and subscribe to Dr. Nehemiah Gordan's research and content at https://www.nehemiaswall.com/ .

You don't know the facts. The original first native language that Jesus spoke was Hebrew spoken to him by Mary and Joseph, then he learned Aramaic most likely from childhood neighbors, then when he started formal education to read and write, He would have by then learned Greek in school because all literate boys and men had to do business (even carpentry... remember, Jesus was a carpenter) in Greek. This FACT is agreed upon by the most elite and best and honest scholars and researchers and archeologists and is apparent from reading between the line of the SCRIPTURES.

It was like America. FOR EXAMPLE, I am Asian and speak Teo Chew dialect. But I would be STUPID to not learn English when I went to public school to read and write, because the official language and writing of America is English. IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE I OR JESUS FIRST LEARNED, you learn how to read and write and do business in the official government's official language and official writing system which is GREEK for ROMAN EMPIRE (English for us AMERICANS).

If I am speaking publically do I whip out my native language of Teo Chew? No, that would be stupid and inefficient. I would speak English to share information publically, especially important information.

When Jesus spoke in a crowd, he would actually speak Greek most of the time because the official language of the land was Greek--even jews and aramaic people knew and had to learn Greek, and if you studied honestly and DILIGENTLY to know the TRUTH, instead of trusting in gossip and rumors from not educated people and irreputable NON-OFFICIAL websites who also just regurgitate and blindly repeat what other foolish uneducated people say blindly, you would have known this, OBVIOUSLY.

I do not mean to insult you, and I mean no offence even now, but I confess that you DID INSULT my intelligence when you just spat out things that you NEVER checked the facts about, AND SAID THAT I NEEDED TO GET EDUCATED after I wrote from my experience, scriptures, and my heart and it shows in the writings I share.

I, sir, DID CHECK MY FACTS WITH 8+ YEARS OF FORMAL EDUCATION AND A MASTER'S DEGREE THESIS and I do not need to be insulted or accused by you or anyone who has not put in the time and work and skill to know TRUTH AND FACTS.

I forgive you completely from the Bottom of my heart, for speaking foolishly and insulting me and presumptuously speaking, The_Watchers_2017 .

I hate bitterness and unnecessary anger, but seriously and I am NOT joking: The_Watchers_2017, you need to be educated and not BLINDLY repeat what your hear without checking the facts yourself.... ESPECIALLY IF YOU PLAN TO USE SUCH UNCONFIRMED FACTS TO REBUKE OR CORRECT SOMEONE.

IRON SHARPENS IRON. Please don't take my comments too offensively. I do not mean harm or disrespect. IT IS WRITTEN, IF YOUR BROTHER SINS AGAINST YOU, REBUKE HIM. I am merely loving JESUS and obeying JESUS'.

If there is anything I can give you or do or say to make it up to you, just let me know. I got a treasure trove of resources and books that I can share with you if you are interested in that sort of thing.

GOD BLESS YOU, The_Watchers_2017, and have a GREAT, GREAT, GREAT NIGHT!

--Forest DYFONG
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[Nehemiah6]

Strictly speaking, the definitions of the Greek words and grammar of the passage in original Greek (I took classical and Ancient GREEK in college and was a scholar and can speak it some) say and mean CONTINUALLY Attribute the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil, not a single action.

That's just another attempt to dodge the plain meaning of Scripture. One does not have to be a grammarian or a Greek scholar to comprehend the plain language of Christ. Thayer's Greek Lexicon says nothing about "continually" and the context says nothing about "continually".

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 987: βλασφημέω
βλασφημέω, βλασφήμω; imperfect ἐβλασφήμουν; 1 aorist ἐβλασφήμησα; passive (present βλασφημοῦμαι); 1 future βλασφημηθήσομαι; (βλάσφημος, which see); to speak reproachfully, rail at, revile, calumniate (Vulg.blasphemo); absolutely: Luke 22:65; Acts 13:45; Acts 18:6; Acts 26:11; 1 Timothy 1:20; 1 Peter 4:4; with accusative of person or thing (as in later Greek, Joseph, Plutarch, Appian, etc.): Matthew 27:39; Mark 3:28 L T Tr WH; ; Luke 23:39; Titus 3:2; James 2:7; Jude 1:10; with the cognate noun βλασφημίαν, to utter blasphemy (Plato, legg. 7, p. 800 c.; see ἀγαπάω at the end), Mark 3:28 R G (where L T Tr WH ὅσα for ὅσας, see above); (followed by ἐν, 2 Peter 2:12; cf. Alexander Buttmann (1873) as at end, and see ἀγνοέω, a.). Passive βλασφημοῦμαι to be evil spoken of, reviled, railed at: Romans 3:8; Romans 14:16; 1 Corinthians 4:13 (T WH Tr marginal reading δυσφημούμενοι); 1 Corinthians 10:30; Titus 2:5; 2 Peter 2:2; τό ὄνομα τίνος, Romans 2:24; 1 Timothy 6:1. Specifically, of those who by contemptuous speech intentionally come short of the reverence due to God or to sacred things (for גִּדֵּף, 2 Kings 19:6, 22 cf. 2 Kings 19:4; cf. Grimm on 2 Macc. 10:34); absolutely: Matthew 9:3; Matthew 26:65; Mark 2:7 L T Tr WH; (John 10:36); τόν Θεόν, Revelation 16:11, 21; τήν θεάν, Acts 19:37 (G L T Tr WH τήν Θεόν); τό ὄνομα τοῦ Θεοῦ, Revelation 13:6; Revelation 16:9; τό πνεῦμα τοῦ Θεοῦ (βλασφημεῖται), 1 Peter 4:14 Rec.; δόξας, Jude 1:8; 2 Peter 2:10 (see δόξα, III. 3 b. γ.); εἰς τό πνεῦμα τό ἅγιον, Mark 3:29; Luke 12:10 (εἰς θεούς, Plato, rep. 2, p. 381 e.). The earlier Greeks say βλασφημαν εἰς τινα, περί or κατά τίνος; (on the N. T. constructions cf. Winers Grammar, 222 (208); 629 (584); Buttmann, 146 (128)).

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

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(***I LOOK UP AND PRAY*** Dear God, how can I be gentle? I ask for help...)

To The_Watchers_2017: " um... I assume... you... NEVER... went to a prestigious theological or seminary college. Cuz, your naiveté (being naive) and ignorance, tells me you don't know what on earth you are talking about.

Get educated?! I have a double major in linguistics and religious studies with a masters in Classical Texts And Manuscripts, 8 YEARS of formal college education in this stuff!

If you don't want to pay for a college education in Hebrew and Aramaic studies because you or your family are too poor or don't have enough time for a college education, name your donation price and subscribe to Dr. Nehemiah Gordan's research and content at https://www.nehemiaswall.com/ .

You don't know the facts. The original first native language that Jesus spoke was Hebrew spoken to him by Mary and Joseph, then he learned Aramaic most likely from childhood neighbors, then when he started formal education to read and write, He would have by then learned Greek in school because all literate boys and men had to do business (even carpentry... remember, Jesus was a carpenter) in Greek. This FACT is agreed upon by the most elite and best and honest scholars and researchers and archeologists and is apparent from reading between the line of the SCRIPTURES.

It was like America. FOR EXAMPLE, I am Asian and speak Teo Chew dialect. But I would be STUPID to not learn English when I went to public school to read and write, because the official language and writing of America is English. IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE I OR JESUS FIRST LEARNED, you learn how to read and write and do business in the official government's official language and official writing system which is GREEK for ROMAN EMPIRE (English for us AMERICANS).

If I am speaking publically do I whip out my native language of Teo Chew? No, that would be stupid and inefficient. I would speak English to share information publically, especially important information.

When Jesus spoke in a crowd, he would actually speak Greek most of the time because the official language of the land was Greek--even jews and aramaic people knew and had to learn Greek, and if you studied honestly and DILIGENTLY to know the TRUTH, instead of trusting in gossip and rumors from not educated people and irreputable NON-OFFICIAL websites who also just regurgitate and blindly repeat what other foolish uneducated people say blindly, you would have known this, OBVIOUSLY.

I do not mean to insult you, and I mean no offence even now, but I confess that you DID INSULT my intelligence when you just spat out things that you NEVER checked the facts about, AND SAID THAT I NEEDED TO GET EDUCATED after I wrote from my experience, scriptures, and my heart and it shows in the writings I share.

I, sir, DID CHECK MY FACTS WITH 8+ YEARS OF FORMAL EDUCATION AND A MASTER'S DEGREE THESIS and I do not need to be insulted or accused by you or anyone who has not put in the time and work and skill to know TRUTH AND FACTS.

I forgive you completely from the Bottom of my heart, for speaking foolishly and insulting me and presumptuously speaking, The_Watchers_2017 .

I hate bitterness and unnecessary anger, but seriously and I am NOT joking: The_Watchers_2017, you need to be educated and not BLINDLY repeat what your hear without checking the facts yourself.... ESPECIALLY IF YOU PLAN TO USE SUCH UNCONFIRMED FACTS TO REBUKE OR CORRECT SOMEONE.

IRON SHARPENS IRON. Please don't take my comments too offensively. I do not mean harm or disrespect. IT IS WRITTEN, IF YOUR BROTHER SINS AGAINST YOU, REBUKE HIM. I am merely loving JESUS and obeying JESUS'.

If there is anything I can give you or do or say to make it up to you, just let me know. I got a treasure trove of resources and books that I can share with you if you are interested in that sort of thing.

GOD BLESS YOU, The_Watchers_2017, and have a GREAT, GREAT, GREAT NIGHT!

--Forest DYFONG
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i doubt you have any education at all other than self taught.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

linguist huh?

i know you will google this, but what is the pigme dialect of Australia?

i know, because my mother n law is an actual linguist and has taught all over.

I realize today, there's more in the field than ever, but when she was in her heyday, she was one of the top 15 linguist in the world.

so, don't be shocked if i call your Bluff!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

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Reflexive metadiscourse in a corpus of Spanish bachelor ...

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by NN Gil · 2018 · Cited by 3 — Metadiscourse in academic writing: a reappraisal. Applied Linguistics 25/2: 156–177. Intaraprawat, Puangpen and Margaret Steffensen. 1995. The use of ...

A comparison of hedged and non-hedged NLG texts

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Jun 17, 2007 — References · Olivier Bonami and Danièle Godard. 2006. · Gudrun Clemen. 1997. · Avon Crismore, Raija Markkanen, and Margaret S. Steffenson.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

there's literally 20 pages of 50 examples of her work.

this site only allows 10 per time.

but yeah, you ain't her and i know you don't have credentials anywhere close to her.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

here's the next 10:


Reduplication in Bamyili Creole

Australian National University
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by MS Steffensen · 1979 · Cited by 11 — MARGARET S . STEFFENSEN. Bamyili is a small government sett lement near Katherine , in t he. Northern Territory , Australia .
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Dissertations / Theses: 'English language Grammar'

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Dissertation Committee: Bruce Hawkins (chair), Irene Brosnahan, Douglas Hesse, Sandra Metts, Margaret Steffensen. Includes bibliographical references ...

Event Arguments and 'Be' in Child African American English

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by L Green · 2007 · Cited by 12 — English," University of Pennsylvania Working Papers in Linguistics: Vol. ... identified in adult AAE (Kovac 1980, Kovac and Adamson 1981, Steffenson.

Metadiscourse in Persuasive Writing

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Jan 1, 1993 — Avon Crismore, Raija Markkanen, M. Steffensen ... Metadiscourse is self-reflective linguistic material referring to the evolving text and to ...

metadiscourse and linguistic identity of african american - GETD

UGA
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by SR JOHNSON · Cited by 3 — Americans revealing their linguistic attitudes towards AAE, education, and more. ... Crismore, Avon; Markannen, Raija; & Steffenson, Margaret S. (1993).

PROJECT (Professional Journal of English Education)

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by F Setimaji · 2019 · Cited by 2 — McClure, Erica. Steffenson, Margaret. S. (1980). A Study of the Use of Conjunctions across Grades and Ethnic Groups. Illinois: University of Illinois.

claire j. kramsch

Michigan Technological University
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THE inclusion of language acquisition and learning in the second edition of ... Patricia L. Carrell's and Margaret Steffensen's studies.

Sunday, March 23, 1997 5:00 p.m.

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Margaret S. Steffensen, Ernest T. Goetz,. Xiaoguang Cheng. Illinois State University, Texas A&M, Liaoning Normal University. Linguistic representation in ...





claire j. kramsch

Michigan Technological University
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THE inclusion of language acquisition and learning in the second edition of ... Patricia L. Carrell's and Margaret Steffensen's studies.

Sunday, March 23, 1997 5:00 p.m.

Society for the Scientific Study of Reading |
https://www.triplesr.org › files › 1997-Fourth

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Margaret S. Steffensen, Ernest T. Goetz,. Xiaoguang Cheng. Illinois State University, Texas A&M, Liaoning Normal University. Linguistic representation in ...

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

anyways, it would take me all day to add it all.

so yeah, i doubt i will be accepting your linguistic views toward what Jesus said about Blaspheming the Holy Spirit!

 

[Anion]

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That's just another attempt to dodge the plain meaning of Scripture. One does not have to be a grammarian or a Greek scholar to comprehend the plain language of Christ. Thayer's Greek Lexicon says nothing about "continually" and the context says nothing about "continually".

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Have you ever had to learn a second language?

I speak 4 languages, two fluently.

The PLAIN meaning ANY and EVERY language that has EVER existed IS BOTH lexicon/dictionary definitions AND GRAMMAR.

You say I am dodging? No, I am not dodging: EVERY person who knows REAL business, communication, foreign language, REAL LIFE-EXPERIENCE, common sense, and honesty will side with me over what you are saying and implying.

Ask anyone who has learned a new language: they will ALL tell you that if you screw up the grammar, your definitions almost mean nothing or can epic-ly fail, or will convey the OBVIOUSLY WRONG message that is not originally intended.

If you subtract the grammar that Jesus uses and the grammar that the GOSPEL writers wrote in, you can't know what JESUS or what his witnesses really mean or intend to witness or testify about: ("Psstttt! I'll give you a hint: they literally write and communicate that it is impossible to sincerly commit the unforgivable sin.... LOL ***chuckles in exasperated wonder***! I don't know how to say it any other way; I don't know how much more I NEED to repeat and explain and clarify something so obvious).

What I am saying is, "You need to understand the language (vocabulary+GRAMMAR) to know what the people mean. And they mean what the language says, obviously. Just use common sense!"

What you are saying is that, "We DON'T need to understand the language, but we definitely know what the language means even without understanding the language."

Do you understand how absurd what you are saying is? Don't you see how ridiculous you sound? No language exists without grammar. Meanings can be very absurdly and wrongly conveyed if there is no grammar.

Even UNEDUCATED children know grammar is a requirement to understand mommy and daddy's words!

Every literate American must legally (REQUIRED) go to school and learn grammar.

Don't be a hypocrite!

By reading anything on this forum you are autonomously required to use and consider grammar, whether you like it or not, whether you want to or not.

Your human brain is hardwired to require grammar. It is biologically and socially lethal to ignore grammar.

You CANT say the grammar that Jesus or the GOSPEL writers use is NOT REQUIRED. That goes against common sense and TRUTH.

Like I said, any child, businessperson, truth seeker, honest person, and those with common sense will side with me over you.

I mean no offence, but what you say and your unfair double standards is truly ABSURD when you pause to think normally about it.

I don't mean to sound like I am mocking you. I do not mean to mock you, that is not my intention, from the beginning of this reply even until now I never meant to mock.

What can I do to make anything up for you?

Can we pray together?

Would you like to pray for me?

Would you like me to pray for you?

I hope we can reconcile if we need to.

BLESSINGS TO YOU!

--Forest DYFONG
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[Anion]

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anyways, it would take me all day to add it all.

so yeah, i doubt i will be accepting your linguistic views toward what Jesus said about Blaspheming the Holy Spirit!

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I am horribly confused.... what is your point for pulling dated linguistics research (some of your references are old and are not completely relevant) about aborigines, African (Non Hebrew and non Greek) research, and English references? I thought we were talking about linguistics as it pertains to JESUS' Words?

You shouldn't just throw up citations just to LOOK smart.

Please explain to me or summarize how each reference either supports your stance or disproved my stance. I am willing to be corrected, and will rescind any snarky remark that i have made against you or anyone IF you can show me where I err. The same standards that I demand of you, I can demand of myself. I have nothing to hide. I hate hypocrisy.

How does ANY of your references have direct bearing on JESUS' GREEK AND HEBREW?

I understand you mentioned Aramaic, but that is outdated research. It was popular around its socially aware peak when Passion of the Christ came out. But science, archeology, scholarship, need to keep up with the updates and new data and findings.

New research has pointed that Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek were well spoken and written by many people at that time. And they even liken it to America now: Greek is the ancient world's English, Aramaic is like thr ancient world's Spanish, and Hebrew would be like the ancient world's Mandarin Chinese.

Even a child can understand this analogy.

Simplifying complex research and data for other people to digest ENJOYABLY AND ACCURATELY is what Olympian Champions of Knowledge and Wisdom know how to do.

Rather than discourage and argue, how about we learn from each other? What do ya say? I am willing to be corrected and learn new information.

Anyways, it is on the table. It is up to you to decide if you care enough to seek TRUTH or instead follow after pride.

BLESSING TO YOU, The_Watchers_2017!

Whoa, time flies when you are responding to heated replies.

Much love to all our family here.

--Forest DYFONG
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[selahsays]

Here is my understanding regarding the unpardonable sin. Let’s begin with scripture:

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.​

It’s in the light of His Spirit and with full knowledge of the presence of His power that for anyone to deny Him and teach against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven Him. ….because there is no sacrifice greater than that of Yeshua Messiah. If an individual willfully stands against Him, there simply is no atonement left.

In Matthew 12, the Pharisees refused purposefully to teach the people the truth that the Savior of the world was physically standing there right before them—that the Kingdom of God had come. Being in Christ’s presence and having witnessed in person His power, they stood right before Jesus Christ and knowingly and publicly denied His Spirit and taught others that His power was of Satan! This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Here it is:

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Mark 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.​

The Pharisees taught a boldfaced lie to the people, knowing in their HEART that it was NOT the truth. They did it on purpose!

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Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.​

 

[Fundaamental]

Here is my understanding regarding the unpardonable sin. Let’s begin with scripture:

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.​

It’s in the light of His Spirit and with full knowledge of the presence of His power that for anyone to deny Him and teach against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven Him. ….because there is no sacrifice greater than that of Yeshua Messiah. If an individual willfully stands against Him, there simply is no atonement left.

In Matthew 12, the Pharisees refused purposefully to teach the people the truth that the Savior of the world was physically standing there right before them—that the Kingdom of God had come. Being in Christ’s presence and having witnessed in person His power, they stood right before Jesus Christ and knowingly and publicly denied His Spirit and taught others that His power was of Satan! This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Here it is:

​

Mark 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.​

The Pharisees taught a boldfaced lie to the people, knowing in their HEART that it was NOT the truth. They did it on purpose!

​

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.​

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