Is it possible that Adam and the devil (satan, serpent, others) are the same person?

[posthuman]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

No.

Job 38:3-7​

Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.​

Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?​

Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you know!​

Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?​

 

[posthuman]

HIS ACCOUNT of Creation

ya might want to look at Genesis 1:2 again; Genesis 1-2 is not all-inclusive of the creation of all things. it's specific to specific things.

His account here is not to give to us all knowledge of all things but certain knowledge of certain things.

 

[posthuman]

The serpent was a "beast of the field"... Adam did not fall into that category.

Hmm...

Ecclesiastes 3:18​

I said to myself concerning the sons of men, “God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts.”​

 

[posthuman]

You should coordinate with Deuteronomy.

i should read threads before I respond to them

 

[Cameron143]

i should read threads before I respond to them

Well at least we know there are at least 3 great minds on the site.

 

[Aaron56]

This thread is now about sharks (that look so cute you want to pet them)

 

[Magenta]

I know the serpent in the garden wasn't a good griffin.

But there's no way of know that griffin was satan,

Revelation 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key
to the Abyss, holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that
ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

 

[Fundaamental]

Revelation 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key
to the Abyss, holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that
ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

A question for this would be.

How would this be related to the serpent in the Gardens of eden

When by
By all accounts that serpent was referred to as live stock (animals)

Then that live stocks ofspring was also cursed to roam free whilst crawling on its belly for the rest of its life (so how was it bound)

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,
Genesis 3
“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;

 

[Fundaamental]

This thread is now about sharks (that look so cute you want to pet them)

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could you say the same for your lion avatar

A griffin is cross between an eagle and A lion with dragon qualities associated to the four faces of God.

Would of thought that would interest you

 

[Fundaamental]

Probably I should state something before we go there. God is not a god who is double minded so it would not be inconceivable to believe God can appear as a Griffin, cross between an eagle and a lion with dragon like qualities smoke coming out of his nostrils and breathing fire. Because if God appears as a lion one minute then an eagle the next then hes favouring one mind over the other.

 

[Fundaamental]

My bets are when the bible says God will come back as the lion of Juda

It will be a griffin, and it will be a load of Griffin's 👍😋😍

 

[Niki7]

...and, the op is a one and done kind of person. so.....

 

[NotmebutHim]

...and, the op is a one and done kind of person. so.....

Yup. Most likely a bomb-thrower, as @PennEd said.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Given that GOD never mentioned...

I believe All of what "God Wants us to know" in this life, He Did Mention, and:

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome To Chat.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
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[Niki7]

Yup. Most likely a bomb-thrower, as @PennEd said.

 

[selahsays]

Yup. Most likely a bomb-thrower, as @PennEd said.

…but it yielded a nice little Bible study, methinks.

 

[Fundaamental]

…but it yielded a nice little Bible study, methinks. View attachment 252934

yes that's what selah says 😋😍

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Read EZ ch 28 and 29. God does say He created Lucifer the "Day Star"

“for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: Praise him in the heights. Praise ye him, all his angels: Praise ye him, all his hosts. Praise ye him, sun and moon: Praise him, all ye stars of light. Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, And ye waters that be above the heavens. Let them praise the name of the LORD: For he commanded, and they were created.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭148:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.”
‭‭Nehemiah‬ ‭9:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:4, 6-7, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[RALEIGH1_W_W]

kind of a bizarre theory. Of course angels are created beings:

Psalm 148:1–14
Praise the Name of the Lord
148 rPraise the Lord!
Praise the Lord sfrom the heavens;
praise him tin the heights!
2 Praise him, all his angels;
praise him, all his uhosts!
3 Praise him, sun and moon,
praise him, all you shining stars!
4 Praise him, you vhighest heavens,
and you wwaters above the heavens!
5 xLet them praise the name of the Lord!
For he commanded and they were created.



Colossians 1:16–17
16 For by him all things were created, lin heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And phe is before all things, and in him all things qhold together.

Ezekiel 28:13–17
13 You were in eEden, the garden of God;
fevery precious stone was your covering,
gsardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,2 femerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.3
iOn the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14 You were an anointed jguardian cherub.
I placed you;4 you were on kthe holy mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15 You were blameless in

Nope, Adam is the first man made in the image of God. Satan is just that pathetic old serpent that the fully Son of Man, seed of the Virgin Woman, and Son of God, Lord Jesus, kills at the end of the world, PRAISE JESUS!

so you do t beleive GEN 1 & 2 are the complete truth of ALL that GOD created and made during creation? So what else besides 'angels' did HE fail to mention. GEN 2:1 'Thus the heavens and earth were finished, and all the host of them' : sounds like a summation to me. So where are the angels at?
your ways
lfrom the day you were created,
till unrighteousness was found in you

Indeed angels exist, but they're not what we think they are. I believe they are the children of Adam and Eve before they sinned, which would make them perfect, and not under the serpent's curse, which is the

 

[RALEIGH1_W_W]

Indeed angels exist, but they're not what we think they are. I believe they are the children of Adam and Eve before they sinned, which would make them perfect, and not under the serpent's curse, which is the

curse of sin. Adam was made in, the image of the LORD, which is that of man; and after the likeness of the LORD, which is light, even angelic light (EZ 1:26-28). Anf according to GEN 1& 2, he and Eve were the only beings GOD created with these attributes; therefore, Adam is that anointed cherub. To believe otherwise is to say GEN 1 & 2 are not the complete, and must be added to in order to make perfect doctrine. Didn't GOD say, 'Thus the heavens and earth were finished, and all the hosts of them', yet HE made no mention of angels? I believe Adam and Eve were the first angelslic beings, humans filled with the Spirit of GOD.

Whoever told Eve they couldn't touch the Forbiddened Fruit told the first lie, and it was to Eve, and she believed it. This is the devil, and Adam is the only suspect there is. And Mary being a virgin is the exclusion of man, for their are no other 'seeds' beside male and female.